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Plenty of talk about what it would take to move around within the first round this year, and Gute even mentioned it as a real possibility within his presser today, so I figured I'd go through Rich Hill's TVC (more current than the old Jimmy Johnson one), and showcase how much it would take for GB to move up or what GB could get moving back. This is strictly using the TVC which is by no means perfect. It also doesn't include anything extra like a "QB tax" that we've seen on moves up for QBs.

This is what it would cost GB to move up from 12.

1: Literally the entire 2019 draft and likely a first rounder in 2020.
2: 12, 30, 44, 114, 150
3: 12, 44, 114, 150
4: 12, 44
5: 12, 44
6: 12, 75, 114, 118
7: 12, 75, 118
8: 12, 114, 118, 150
9: 12, 114, 150
10: 12, 118
11: 12, 150
PACKERS PICK AT 12
 

Next section will be for trading back from 12, what GB could receive. Again, this does not include a "QB tax" which is certainly possible given the fact that there are two QBs that are expected/potentially still available at 12. This also factors in what draft capital those teams have available to them at this time.

13: 13, 151
14: 14, 117
15: 15, 96
16: 16, 100, 187
17: 17, 95, 143
18: 18, 81, 190
19: 19, 82, 121
20: 20, 83, 122, 192
21: 21, future 2nd, and future 3rd PERHAPS a future 1st instead (discount rates on future picks aren't super well established)
22: 22, future 2nd, and 85 PERHAPS a future 1st instead
23: 23, 54
24: 24, 35, future 4th AND GB gives up 75
25: 25, 53, 163
26: 26, 59, 89, AND GB gives up 150
27: 27, 35 AND GB gives up 114, and 150
28: 28, 60, 91, 166
29: 29, 61, 63, AND GB gives up 118

PACKERS PICK AT 30

Next section will be GB trading up from 30 assuming they picked at 12.

13: 30, 44, 185
14: 30, 44
15: 30, 44, AND WAS gives up 153
16: 30, 44, AND CAR gives up 115
17: 30, 75, 114, 150
18: 30, 75, 114
19: 30, 75, 118
20: 30, 75, 150
21: 30, 75
22: 30, 75, AND BAL gives up 193
23: 30, 75, AND HOU gives up 161
24: 30, 114, 150
25: 30, 118, 150
26: 30, 114
27: 30, 118
28: 30, 150
29: 30, 185

PACKERS PICK AT 30

Final section will be GB trading back from 30 in the first round

31: 31, 203
32: 32, 134

 

Hope this helps with the draft trade prognostication/speculation!
 

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Only way I'm trading down past 20th overall is if we're getting a 2020 first.  12th, 30th and 44th are enough strong talent to give LaFleur a good start to his time as head coach, so we don't really need more second round picks, but I'm ALWAYS a fan of getting ANYBODY'S next year first round pick.  I feel like every single team is a ripple effect away from a top 10 pick.  Even the Patriots.  If time suddenly caught up on Brady the way it did to Peyton, or a rough start snowballing into losses and lost faith in a coach...

Extra second round picks just don't do it for me. 

As far as trading up, the value simply isn't there for me until 4th overall.  I could live with losing our second round pick to get Oliver or Allen or maybe even Bosa. 

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Just now, Outpost31 said:

Only way I'm trading down past 20th overall is if we're getting a 2020 first.  12th, 30th and 44th are enough strong talent to give LaFleur a good start to his time as head coach, so we don't really need more second round picks, but I'm ALWAYS a fan of getting ANYBODY'S next year first round pick.  I feel like every single team is a ripple effect away from a top 10 pick.  Even the Patriots.  If time suddenly caught up on Brady the way it did to Peyton, or a rough start snowballing into losses and lost faith in a coach...

Extra second round picks just don't do it for me. 

As far as trading up, the value simply isn't there for me until 4th overall.  I could live with losing our second round pick to get Oliver or Allen or maybe even Bosa. 

Depending on the discount rate you use, the earliest you're probably looking at getting that is about is probably 25? OAK's is too high, HOU has too many other assets to be leveraged into that. Even past that, KC has multiple 2s, OAK isn't giving their 2020 1, maybe LAC? Other than that, I can't see a way you get a 2020 1.

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Just now, SSG said:

I hate the idea of moving up but would welcome the move back if the right edge rusher isn't there.  IMO, the differance in this draft between 12 and the early 20's is very minimal.  

Agreed

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I'd be all for a trade down with Oakland for 24 or 27, and 35. Four picks in the first 44 sounds better than four picks in the first 75. We'd be able to add four high quality players, and we can use a guy at just about every position. 

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On 4/22/2019 at 1:07 PM, rcon14 said:

Next section will be for trading back from 12, what GB could receive. Again, this does not include a "QB tax" which is certainly possible given the fact that there are two QBs that are expected/potentially still available at 12. This also factors in what draft capital those teams have available to them at this time.

13: 13, 151
14: 14, 117
15: 15, 96
16: 16, 100, 187
17: 17, 95, 143 
18: 18, 81, 190
19: 19, 82, 121
20: 20, 83, 122, 192
21: 21, future 2nd, and future 3rd PERHAPS a future 1st instead (discount rates on future picks aren't super well established)
22: 22, future 2nd, and 85 PERHAPS a future 1st instead
23: 23, 54
24: 24, 35, future 4th AND GB gives up 75
25: 25, 53, 163
26: 26, 59, 89, AND GB gives up 150
27: 27, 35 AND GB gives up 114, and 150
28: 28, 60, 91, 166
29: 29, 61, 63, AND GB gives up 118

Looking at some options and teams

15: 15, 96  WAS could a QB and a short move up is possible to get ahead of MIA.  

17: 17, 95, 143  NYG if they go D at pick 6, could look to move up for a QB.  Instead of the pick 143, I would want GB to get a pick in 2020, maybe a 2nd and give back a 4th or 5th in 2020

23: 23, 54  HOU  They could use OT help and someone like Taylor or Dillard would make a lot of sense for them.  Would likely need another pick to make that a go.  Would rather not move that far down in round 1.  

Trading down might be a nice option to grab Simmons and then allow more options to move up from either 30 or 44.

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