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Intro:

Alright, let's try a Non-TMI version of a Cadmus mock draft. If you have any questions about how I view the current roster, salary cap implications or if you simply want to peruse my first mock you can view that here: Cadmus TMI MockI also wanted to take a moment to explain my philosophy with regard to the draft. I wanted the mock to be as realistic as possible, which means no crazy trades, and I won’t draft players if I don’t think they’ll actually be available at a specific draft slot. However, I'm also trying to execute this mock as BPA, so (before you come at me with pitchforks) realize that many of these prospects will be selected at the middle-to-low end of their predicted draft range.

 

Salary Cap Review:

Per Field Yates the Packers have slightly over $14 Million in cap space available.

 

Again, I don’t typically link outside articles, but if you guys have any questions about the Packers official cap space there’s an excellent article here: GB Salary Cap Space

 

Free Agency:

Here are the positions and players I could see added to roster before training camp (obviously, it depends heavily on the draft): 

EDGE: Nick Perry, Shane Ray, Derick Morgan 

TE: Erik Swoope, Maxx Williams, Nick Truesdell, Dion Sims 

DL: Muhammad Wilkerson, Allen Bailey 

S: Tre Boston, Ron Parker, Corey Graham, Jahleel Addae, Ed Reynolds

CB: Dexter McDonald, Kayvon Webster, Coty Sensabaugh

I'm not going to predict that we'll necessarily sign all of three of the following players, but here's a few interesting moves (However, I do believe that Wilkerson and McDonald represent the two most likely players to sign with GB after the draft). 

Muhammad Wilkerson 

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1 Year/ 2.6 Million (950,000 Million base/800,000 Million SB) (800,000 per-game roster Bonus) [2019 Cap Hit = 1.9 Million]

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Wilkerson wants to re-sign and the Packers welcome him back with open arms. Having suffered a nasty injury that he thought was a potential career-ender when it occurred--Wilkerson is amenable to a reduced deal that includes a number of bonuses. With regard to the contract--Wilkerson’s heavy per-game roster bonus will be based on 2018, and since he only played 3 games—only $150,000 of that total will count against the 2019 salary cap.

Dexter McDonald

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1 Year/ 805,000 [veteran minimum salary benefit contract = 2019 cap hit of $645,000]

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A veteran minimum salary benefit contract that gives McDonald a chance to reboot his career. McDonald was one of Green Bay’s 30 pre-draft visits in the 2015 Draft class, and he played well when he saw the field during the 2017 season. He suffered an ankle injury during the preseason last year and was placed on IR before the start of the 2018 season. I’ve been a fan of McDonald since he was at Kansas and he represents an ideal option to compete with Tony Brown at CB4. McDonald possesses the ability to develop into a starter on the boundary in the NFL, the question is whether the staff can get that out of him. A gifted athlete at 6’1” and 200lbs, McDonald tested well at his Pro Day in 2015—4.42 40 Time, 40.5” VJ, 134” BJ, and 6.93 3C. 

FA Conclusion: 

2019 Cap Hits:  Wilkerson (1.9 Million) + McDonald (645,000)

[veteran minimum = 570,000] x 2 = 1.14 Million 

2.545 Million - 1.14 Million = 1.405 Million 

9.287 Million (From initial explanation of GB’s cap health)- 1.405 Million (FA cap charges) = 7.882 Million in remaining salary cap space AFTER you account for rookie draft class. That number would also continue to increase (or should at least remain close to stagnant) as drafted (and undrafted) rookies make the final roster instead of more expensive veteran counterparts.

 

Roster Analysis:

If you're interested in a position-by-position breakdown of the roster, I did that in my first mock and nothing has changed. You can view that here: Cadmus TMI Mock.

 

The Draft: 

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I wanted to do something different: so here goes nothing. 

 

*TRADE* Gutekunst doesn't like how the board is shaping up after the first few picks. He has taken multiple calls from teams looking to trade down, but doesn't see any trades worth accepting until the Jaguars call. Jacksonville sends #7 (1500) and #109 (76) to Green Bay for #12 (1200) and #44 (460). 

 

Round (1.07)- Ed Oliver - DL (Houston)

NFL Comparison: Geno Atkins 

H: 6017 W: 287 40: 4.73 (10: 1.63) VJ: 36” BJ: 120” SS: 4.22 3C: 7.15

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Generally speaking, I’m going to spend more time on the mid-late round selections than the players selected at the top of the draft. After a highly explosive Pro Day I don’t think Oliver lasts until #12 and I think it’s clear from the offseason blueprint that Gutekunst will continue to prioritize improving the ability create pressure up front. Another positive aspect of the move is that Gutekunst has just prevented the Lions from acquiring a player they were licking their chops to draft with the very next selection. Oliver provides Pettine with another versatile chess piece that he can move around to create mismatches and keep opposing OL and QBs off balance. Oliver reminds me of prime-Geno Atkins and he's one of the few players I could see the Packers trading up for. Oliver faced a ridiculous number of double and triple teams during his senior season, but he won't face the same amount of attention in the NFL next to Clark, Daniels, Z. Smith, and P. Smith. 

 

 

Ed Oliver 2018 Highlights

 

*TRADE* The Packers are on the clock at #30 and there hasn't been a single safety selected yet in the draft. The Packers have multiple options they like at the position so they decide to accept an offer from Gettleman and the New York Giants to trade back (who are looking to move up to select a QB). New York sends #37 (530), #95 (120), and #143 (34) to Green Bay for #30 (620). 

 

 

Round (2.37)- Nasir Adderley - FS (Delaware)

NFL Comparison: Earl Thomas

H: 5116 W: 203 40: 4.48e VJ: 38” BJ: 129” BP: 19

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Adderley represents the first of two players that are repeats from my previous mock. Here's what I wrote about Adderley for my TMI Mock: 

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I’ve seen some recent mocks where people take Adderley at #44, but I just don’t believe that will happen even with a lack of complete PD numbers. If you want Adderley in this draft, I think you’ll need to take him at 30 or move up in the 2nd RD (from 44) to take him. I just can’t see a player this talented falling out of the Top 40 (barring some unforeseen circumstances) despite the fact he played in the FCS. Adderley plays (if he were healthy enough to run) in the low to mid 4.4s. He might be a half step slower than Thomas when he entered the league, but he demonstrated elite range at the FCS level.I fully believe that Adderely possesses both the physical ability and instincts to make a (rare) smooth transition from the FCS to the NFL. He demonstrates terrific ball skills and has a competitive streak that we could use on the back-end of the defense. For his size, Adderley is a surprisingly willing tackler and generally demonstrates good form. He awarded the “C” for captain of the North Squad at the Senior Bowl and that type of leadership and accountability would be another welcome Day 1 quality on defense. If Adderley played at a larger school, I honestly think he’d be considered a Top 15 prospect in the draft class. It also doesn’t hurt that Nasir is related to (cousin of) Herb Adderley, one of the best (if not, the best) CBs in the 1960s with the Green Bay Packers.

Nothing has changed. Gutekunst feels fortunate to select Adderley at his floor following a run in the draft heavily dominated by WRs over the last handful of selections. 

 

 

Nasir Adderley Career Highlights

 

 

Round (3.75)- Christian Miller - EDGE (Alabama)

NFL Comparison: Danielle Hunter

H: 6033 W: 247 40: N/A VJ: 38.5” BJ: 118” (35.125" arms)

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Miller represents the second of two players that are repeats from my previous mock. Here's what I wrote about Miller for my TMI Mock: 

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Now, we’re finally getting into uncharted territory. I understand that the EDGE class might be the strongest position group in the NFL Draft, but what I can’t understand is why Christian Miller isn’t getting any love (especially on here). Remember when I said that I like bendy EDGE prospects, well Miller has some of the best bend (I’d confidently say Top 5) in the entire class. He’s been in my Top 8 EDGE defenders for what seems like forever and I can’t figure out why he hasn’t been treated the same way by the majority draft community (To be fair, there are handful of people—especially those who have opinions I value that think he has a shot to sneak into the Top 50). Two big reasons most of you probably haven’t heard of him: 1) He played for an impossibly deep Alabama squad and made his career start in Week 4 of 2018 (his senior year)—AND—2) He hasn’t been able to fully participate in the pre-draft process (only VJ AND BJ at the NFL Combine). Despite all of that—Miller is an ascending player that accumulated 8.5 sacks, 11.5 TFLs and 12 QB hurries in limited snaps. For a player that doesn’t have a ton of experience, Miller displays a strong, varied array of pass rush moves that should allow him to succeed right away as sub-package pass rusher. His 38.5” vertical supports the explosiveness he consistently demonstrates in-game especially when he's allowed to pin his ears back. I suspect that Miller would time in the high 4.6s in the 40 yard dash, but I specifically think he’d put up an impressive 10 yard split with the way he moves over short distances. Miller represents one of “my guys”, and I suspect he will have a strong NFL career despite limited opportunities in college. In terms of play style, Miller reminds me of Danielle Hunter, as both were raw and underutilized at the college level. Like Hunter, Miller also demonstrates success against the run and has the frame to add 10+ lbs at the NFL level. Miller’s eventual play weight should be 255-265lbs once he’s had time in an NFL program. 

Again, nothing has changed. I'm all in on Miller, and he represents one my favorite players in the entire draft (especially relative to his projected draft slot). 

 

 

Christian Miller Highlights

 

 

Round (3.95)- Dawson Knox - TE (Mississippi)

NFL Comparison: Greg Olsen

H: 6043 W: 254 40: 4.59 (10: 1.57) VJ: 34.5” BJ: 122” SS: 4.27 3C: 7.02 

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Knox is another player that has a fairly wide range of draft outcomes. It wouldn't surprise me to see him slip into the tail-end of the 2nd RD or to fall to the middle of the 4th RD. The biggest reason it's hard to project exactly where Knox will be selected has to do with his lack of collegiate production. During his senior year he only had 15 receptions for 284 yards, but managed an impressive 18.9 yards per reception. Knox has palpable upside as a pass catcher, and he's already an above average blocker with the frame to suggest he can continue to grow in that area. As a route runner he demonstrates excellent speed and fluidity to consistently separate from defenders. Knox demonstrates strong hands at the catch point from what I've seen (a relatively small sample), but he was also never asked to win any jump ball (50-50) situations so he's a relative unknown in that regard.  In terms of play style, Knox reminds me of a young Greg Olsen and if everything clicks he possesses the ability to be a 700+ yard TE in the Packers offense with Rodgers in the post-Graham era. 

 

Dawson Knox Highlight/Draft Profile

 

 

Round (4.109)- Ben Banogu (TCU)

NFL Comparison: Yannick Ngakoue 

H: 6034 W: 250 40: 4.62 (10: 1.56) VJ: 40” BJ: 134” SS: 4.27 3C: 7.02 (33.375" arms) 

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I've stated previously that I feel Banogu's draft range is from 80-140 and this selection falls squarely within that range. I know he's a forum favorite, but I see a player that's still quite raw and will need a lot of NFL coaching to reach his potential. The initial problem I noticed with Banogu was that both his snap anticipation and first step are extremely inconsistent. When he gets off well, the first step can be devastating for OTs, and he will press hard and use effective angles to overextend lineman as he finds a path to the QB. Banogu displays a strong affinity for inside moves (that seems to represent the majority of collegiate pass rush success), but possesses the burst (and enough bend) to run the arc. Overall, Banogu--like Christian Miller-- could develop into a valuable pass rusher in pressure sub-packages Year 1 while he continues to refine his pass rush arsenal and technique vs. the run. Other mid round EDGE players that interest me in the Late 3rd-Early 5th range are Maxx Crosby, Justin Hollins, and Oshane Ximines. 

 

 

 

Ben Banogu (Stadium Highlights)

Ben Banogu Highlights

 

Round (4.114)- Chuma Edoga - OT (Southern California) 

NFL Comparison: Ryan Harris 

H: 6034 W: 308 40: N/A  SS: 4.53  3C: 7.47 (34.75" arms) 

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A college RT (with some LT experience), Edoga represents one of my favorite mid-round OL targets for the Packers. He's been overlooked at OT due to his lack of height (6034), but the Packers currently have one of the shortest LTs in the NFL in Bakhtiari (6042) and that hasn't prevented him from becoming one of the best players at his position. An important consideration here is that despite Bakh's height he still has OT length (34" arms/ 79.75" wingspan) and so does Edoga (34.75" arms/ 81.5" wingspan). The first thing you'll probably notice about Edoga is his feet. The guy is an extremely gifted athlete that moves with ease (7.47 3C confirms). He possesses the balance and length to mirror and redirect EDGE rushers and demonstrated that quality routinely at the Senior Bowl. At the present moment, Edoga may be a better run blocker than pass blocker, but the skillset and natural athleticism suggests he can develop into a top tier RT in the NFL given time. Edoga will need time in an NFL S&C program to reach his full potential, but he also represents the type of athletic mid-round target the Packers love to target along the OL. 

 

 

 

 

Round (4.118)- Josh Oliver- TE (San Jose State) 

NFL Comparison: Tyler Higbee

H: 6045 W: 249 40: 4.63 (10: 1.64)  VJ: 34" BJ: 117" SS: 4.47 3C: 7.21 (10.75" hands) 

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I've been on the Josh Oliver train for a long time, but I'd be lying if I told you I knew exactly where he will be selected in the NFL Draft this weekend. I recall that Gil Brandt stated that Oliver could go as high as TE3, but when he released his Top 150 a few weeks ago Oliver was rated as #120. Anything from the mid-3rd to mid-5th represents his range so #118 definitely feels like an appropriate selection.  Oliver is an extremely talented player with the speed to stress an NFL defense. As a pass catcher, Oliver has some of the strongest hands in the entire class. He had the 2nd largest hands of any pass catcher in the draft class (tied with Hakeem Butler at 10.75"). The biggest knock on Oliver I've seen on here has been his lack of YAC ability, but if you take the time to watch a few games you'll quickly realize he didn't have many opportunities to create for himself after the catch. The combination of piss-poor QB play at SJSU and constant extra attention in coverage prevented Oliver from doing anything with the ball after the catch. The SJSU QB consistently left throws on the field and I lost count of the number of times he threw the ball behind Oliver and/or waited a half second too long to make the throw. That won't be the case with Aaron Rodgers, and if Oliver can refine his blocking he has tremendous potential at the NFL level. In terms of play style, Oliver reminds me of Tyler Higbee, a player I think would be capable of being a 600+ yard receiving TE in the NFL if he played on another team where he saw more targets. 

 

 

 

Josh Oliver (Stadium Highlights)

 

Round (5.143)- Sheldrick Redwine - FS (Miami) 

 

NFL Comparison: Louis Delmas

H: 6000 W: 196 40: 4.44 (10: 1.53)  VJ: 39" BJ: 130" SS: 4.14 3C: 7.11 

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Man, do I love me some athletic Miami DBs. Redwine definitely fits the bill of the athletic Miami defensive backs that tend to "overachieve" in the NFL. There are a number of talented safeties that are likely to be available near-or-on Day 3, it just really depends on the "flavor" you prefer at the position. Will Harris -- Marquise Blair -- Mike Edwards – SaQuan Hampton – Marvel Tell – Sheldrick Redwine – Evan Worthington -- Ugochukwu Amadi -Corrion Ballard -- Tyree Kinnel are all players that I feel are worth Day 3 selections (and a few might sneak into Day 2). Redwine is a former CB that possesses the athleticism to match-up with TEs, and he could instantly develop into a viable candidate for the third safety role. He's an athlete that hasn't yet maxed out his frame, but he's a ferocious run defender that's not afraid to drive through a tackler and/or violently punch out the ball. In coverage Redwine remains a work in progress, but he possess the athleticism, coverage ability and ball skills to become a key cog on the back-end of the defense.  

 

 

 

Sheldrick Redwine Highlights

 

 

Round (5.150)- Drue Tranquill - ILB (Notre Dame) 

NFL Comparison: Fred Warner 

H: 6020 W: 234 40: 4.57 (10: 1.59)  VJ: 37.5" BJ: 122" SS: 4.14 3C: 6.94

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Similar to Blake Cashman in my first mock, there's no way Tranquill would be available at this point in the draft if there weren't injury concerns. Tranquill tore both ACLs during his collegiate career (left ACL freshman year) and (right ACL sophomore year). A player that started college as a safety, Tranquill eventually transitioned to linebacker and became the two-time defensive captain for an extremely talented squad. Tranquill (like Cashman) is one of a handful of linebackers in the 2019 NFL Draft that absolutely screams Packers pick to me. He's a tough SOB that plays with a low center of gravity and has the instincts and burst to shoot gaps and disrupt vs. the run. A former safety, Tranquill has the requisite athleticism to carry a TE downfield in man coverage, and plays with good awareness in zone coverage. Tranquill won't necessarily flash consistently at the NFL level, but he's an intelligent, steady player (not dissimilar from Martinez) with above average athleticism that has the potential to rack up tackles in the NFL if he can stay healthy. 

Drue Tranquill Highlights

 

Round (6.185)- Tony Pollard - RB/WR (Memphis) 

NFL Comparison: Jerious Norwood 

H: 5115 W: 210 40: 4.41 [PD] (10: 1.53)  VJ: 36.5" BJ: 125" SS: 4.37 3C: 7.00

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I've said in the past that If you're looking for NFL contributors outside the Top 120, you'll want to focus on the following positions: OC, LB (off-ball), RB, S, and the specialists (KR/PR/P/K/LS). Beyond that--the next positions that have modest success for late round selections are WR, CB, DT (specifically run-stuffer types), and OG. Anything beyond those positions and I think you'll often struggle to find contributors in the late rounds of the NFL Draft (In all honesty though, it's all a crapshoot no matter what position you select). So why select Pollard? Pollard instantly upgrades our KR/PR situation and gives us a viable RB option on 3rd down. Long-term development for Pollard should focus on the slot WR position, where he has considerable upside if he can earn the trust of Rodgers. There have been some concerns about Pollard's ability to run routes and that's a reason why he remains available at this stage in the draft. However, once Pollard becomes the ball carrier (via rush/reception) he has demonstrates the ability to create for himself with powerful cuts and the speed to beat angles. Pollard's YAC ability should allow MLF to utilize him as a rookie, and he has the potential to grow into a versatile weapon for the offense. In terms of play style, Pollard reminds me of the talented Falcons RB Jerious Norwood, although he may be a half-step slower they both play a strikingly a similar game (Norwood was also an extremely talented receiver at RB).

 

 

Tony Pollard 2018 Highlights

Tony Pollard 2017 Highlights

 

 

Round (6.194)- Donnie Lewis Jr.- CB (Tulane) 

NFL Comparison: Bradley Fletcher

H: 6002 W: 190 40: N/A 

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Donnie Lewis is a player the Packers have used a Top-30 visit on, and the reason for the Packers interest should be clear when you watch him. Lewis plays in the mid-high 4.4s, with good agility and has a ton of ball production in the last two seasons. He's a player that entered Tulane around 150 and  needed that time to grow into his frame (now 6002/190). In terms of ball production, Lewis had 18 PBUs and 3 INTs as a senior and 11 PBUs and 3 INTs as a junior. He's a feisty and aggressive corner in press coverage and should be drafted in an extremely weak CB class. Lewis may have been selected even higher if he hadn't suffered a foot fracture during practice at the East-West Shrine game. The only true negative in terms of physical composition with regard to Lewis is that he has relatively short arms for a CB of his size (30.75"). In terms of play style, Lewis reminds me of Bradley Fletcher, a feisty press man CB that had similar ball production in his final year at Iowa. 

 

 

Donnie Lewis vs Wake Forest

 

Round (7.226)- Jamal Custis- WR (Syracuse) 

NFL Comparison: Kenny Golladay 

H: 6041 W: 214 40: 4.50 (10: 1.60)  VJ: 34.5" BJ: 124" SS: 4.46 3C: 7.23 (10.875" hands/ 82" wingspan)

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Two years ago, I posted a single mock draft where I went on and on about my final selection: Tim Patrick. I'm happy to see that Patrick has finally found success in Denver (outplaying Sutton at times in the final few weeks) and I'll try not to gush about Custis to the same degree. Custis has become my Day 3 WR selection, although there are a number of small school WRs that have also caught my attention (Guyton, White Jr., and Dulin). The guy registered the largest hands (10.875") of any pass catcher (TE or WR) at the NFL Combine this year, which are also larger that Larry Fitzgerald's hands. Custis routinely uses those hands to win contested situations and catch the ball over his shoulder. In terms of speed he plays exactly like he tested (4.50), but he's also a smooth, long-strider that possesses the ability to be a deep threat in the NFL When he gets deep, Custis displays fantastic ball tracking ability and will routinely contort his body to make the difficult catch. Syracuse lined Custis up all over the field and he ran approximately 40% of his routes from the slot. A basketball player at heart (and when he matriculated to Syracuse) Custis demonstrates the ability to win 50-50 jump balls and possesses that above-the-rim talent you love to see from big-bodied WRs. Custis remains extremely raw as a route runner, but everything is here to develop into a quality #2 or #3 option in an NFL offense with the upside for more. Syracuse also used Custis on a number of WR screens and he routinely demonstrated the ability to smoothly transition form receiver to ball carrier. As a ball carrier, Custis isn't super crafty, but he has the speed to threaten angles and won't hesitate to stiff arm or run through defenders. Overall, Custis reminds me of a slightly more raw Kenny Golladay, but the combination of size/style coupled with potential upside makes the comparison uncanny. His closest comparable on Mockdraftable is Hakeem Butler, so for all of Butler nerds, you may want to take a look at an excellent consolation prize in Jamal Custis (no, I'm not saying they are the exact same player). 

 

 

 

Jamal Custis 2018 Highlights

 

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17 minutes ago, OneTwoSixFive said:

I do seem to like your drafts. Is it name recognition, or a similar viewpoint ? I don't know, but i like them. You did persuade me to pay more attention to Christian Miller and Ben Banogu.

Thanks. 

I'm not sure why you like my mock drafts so much, but I'm glad you do. 

I try to focus on what I think Packer-type prospects in each draft look like (not just the guys I like, that GB probably won't draft), so that may help?  

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I like this actually except too little offense.

 

I'm definitely losing my love of Adderly. Swap that for an OL and I am happy. Also probably another WR instead of Oliver in the deepest class ever. 

I take Sample before Knox too

That first pick is OT (probably gone) or a move up/down for a DL like you have.

 I looooove a double dip at edge in rounds 2-4. Lots to love including your picks. Really see it close to that.

With a couple tweaks, I see the draft playing out like this. Just where draft strengths are.

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3 hours ago, MantyWrestler said:

Love it   Think you went a little too much WR toward the end where I’d have looked at another CB, ILB or DT but by then I was already cheering out loud. 

I view Pollard as slotting into the RB3 role as a rookie behind Jones and Williams. Then Custis would be competing with Kumerow & Co. for WR6. 

 

Ideal world, both show you something during camp and you end up with: 

RB: Jones, Williams, Pollard 

WR: Adams, MVS, St. Brown, Allison, Moore, Custis

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Biggest takeaway is that Shane Ray is still available??
Where have I been

 

Think it's pretty likely Wilk is brought back honestly. One of the few scenarios I can see GB forgoing that is if we score Big Houston. 
Wouldn't argue either way. Like the trade up too for a new look. 

Honestly any mock we walk away from with Oliver and Adderly is already an A for me. 

Like Miller a lot. Almost put him in my mock. Though I have you to thank for pointing him out.
Really think we go 2 TE in the 3-5 range. Thats my 'not very bold' prediction of the day. 
Knox isn't my favorite there but still a lot to like. Seems like a very fair slot for Oliver.

High on Chuma and Sheldrick for this team. Like the flexibility that comes with a guy who can swing inside but it just doesn't seem necessary.
Like Donnie Lewis for us as well. 

 

Good work brotha

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2 hours ago, JaireAlex said:

I like this actually except too little offense.

 

I'm definitely losing my love of Adderly. Swap that for an OL and I am happy. Also probably another WR instead of Oliver in the deepest class ever. 

I take Sample before Knox too

That first pick is OT (probably gone) or a move up/down for a DL like you have.

 I looooove a double dip at edge in rounds 2-4. Lots to love including your picks. Really see it close to that.

With a couple tweaks, I see the draft playing out like this. Just where draft strengths are.

Thanks for the response.

Adderley is still the best safety in this draft IMHO. Don't agree with Sample ahead of Knox and I'm not sure we can find many others who'd agree, but I guess you must see something in him.  

You're totally entitled to your own opinion as long as you can do so in a measured manner and you don't ruin the Draft Day experience for others. 

Glad you enjoyed reading the mock!

-Cheers

 

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3 hours ago, Packerraymond said:

I love the prospects, all guys I'm high on other than Redwine.

I just can't help but wish we mix offense in more during the first few selections. That said Pettine would have absolutely no excuses in this case.

That's definitely a fair statement. 

I had Hampton at Redwine's slot initially, but I like them both. Is Hampton more your speed or do you have another Day 3 safety you like? 

Honestly, it's kind of like I outlined above, there's just so many safeties worth a Day 3 selection that nearly everyone is bound to have a guy they like more than the rest. 

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55 minutes ago, Cadmus said:

That's definitely a fair statement. 

I had Hampton at Redwine's slot initially, but I like them both. Is Hampton more your speed or do you have another Day 3 safety you like? 

Honestly, it's kind of like I outlined above, there's just so many safeties worth a Day 3 selection that nearly everyone is bound to have a guy they like more than the rest. 

My day 3 safeties are Will Harris and Marvell Tell. Though Harris could sneak into round 3.

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I don't like trading up to 7 for Ed Oliver. I just don't think he has the length to do what we would be asking of him. I do, however, love the trade down from 30 for all the reasons you listed. I seriously think we will get to 30 tonight and everyone will agree with you unless someone we really like is sliding down the boards. The question there would be "who does Gettleman trade up for?" Other than that, it's an interesting take on what you did here. Realistic IMHO except the Miller pick. I think he can be had Day 3 despite how underrated he is.

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