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Pick is in, #4 Clelin Ferrell DE Clemson


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I saw brian burns won rookie of the month. So i spent my morning watching all 308 defensive plays of the panthers this morning. The first thing that stood out was DAMN Burns barely plays. Most of the time there was a good play I would rewatch it looking for Burns, rarely was he on the field. When he was he was washed out on a 1v1 vs the Tackle. 

My opinion now was the same it was as a prospect. He is being misused as a 4-3 DE. He can't play vs the run and he gets washed out by Power OTs. He gets a lucky break once or twice a game but overall he is unimpressive. 

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2 hours ago, OG_C2X said:

I saw brian burns won rookie of the month. So i spent my morning watching all 308 defensive plays of the panthers this morning. The first thing that stood out was DAMN Burns barely plays. Most of the time there was a good play I would rewatch it looking for Burns, rarely was he on the field. When he was he was washed out on a 1v1 vs the Tackle. 

My opinion now was the same it was as a prospect. He is being misused as a 4-3 DE. He can't play vs the run and he gets washed out by Power OTs. He gets a lucky break once or twice a game but overall he is unimpressive. 

so would the guys that had Burns over Ferrell, prefer a pass rush specialist or a 3 down DE?

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Burns has played 63% (177) of their snaps.

Ferrell has played 79% (219). More than anyone on our dline so far.

Allen has played 76% (202).

Bosa has played 56% (107).

Winovich has played 32% (85).

They could all end up being better than Ferrell but at this point, Ferrell is being asked to do more and has less talent around him.

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22 hours ago, daineraider said:

Clelin needs more time to develop, but that’s why I was upset with the pick.  At #4 we needed production this year.  I wanted Allen, Bush, White, or Oliver(I knew Bosa would be gone).  I won’t write him off as it’s only 4 games into his career, but he doesn’t seem to have close to the athleticism that Burns or Allen have.  I still think he can develop into a solid player, but I don’t ever see him being a great pass rusher.

And none of those other guys are doing much.

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1 hour ago, oakdb36 said:

Burns has played 63% (177) of their snaps.

Ferrell has played 79% (219). More than anyone on our dline so far.

Allen has played 76% (202).

Bosa has played 56% (107).

Winovich has played 32% (85).

They could all end up being better than Ferrell but at this point, Ferrell is being asked to do more and has less talent around him.

Bosa’s % is interesting wonder why he doesn’t play more

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14 hours ago, raidr4life said:

And this is the problem i have with the way they use him.

Maybe they are using him this way because.... **gasp** they realize he's not explosive enough off the edge to generate pressure. He's getting no push inside either for that matter. Concerning that he has been so little of a factor thus far. 

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