Ragnar Danneskjold Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 Just curious- would this discussion be taking place if Gary was a 4th round pick? Is the issue that he was picked at 12 overall? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainmaker90 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 14 minutes ago, Kepler said: Can't wait to read this thread at the end of the season or next year This the ones about Rodgers and the ones about our s***** offense. Coincidentally some of the people who have went overboard on those three topics overlap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacman5252 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 49 minutes ago, Ragnar Danneskjold said: Just curious- would this discussion be taking place if Gary was a 4th round pick? Is the issue that he was picked at 12 overall? Yeah, I think so. If he was pick 30, I think the fan base would be fine with him, but because he was 12 and a guy a lot of people wanted (Burns) is producing pass rush, people have issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas492 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 18 minutes ago, pacman5252 said: Yeah, I think so. If he was pick 30, I think the fan base would be fine with him, but because he was 12 and a guy a lot of people wanted (Burns) is producing pass rush, people have issues. To piggyback this..... Gary's size and athletic profile seems to fit what Pettine wants out of his EDGE guys. Burns was a little light compared to the Smiths. And...we should note that it took Z a couple years to get to where he is as an NFL player. Gary has a lot more to offer athletically than Z did, so we should be patient with him. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnar Danneskjold Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 36 minutes ago, vegas492 said: To piggyback this..... Gary's size and athletic profile seems to fit what Pettine wants out of his EDGE guys. Burns was a little light compared to the Smiths. And...we should note that it took Z a couple years to get to where he is as an NFL player. Gary has a lot more to offer athletically than Z did, so we should be patient with him. Are you referring to this? http://www.nfl.com/player/za'dariussmith/2552279/combine A lot of the same criticism- stiff, can't turn the corner, hard worker but limited 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnar Danneskjold Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 1 hour ago, pacman5252 said: Yeah, I think so. If he was pick 30, I think the fan base would be fine with him, but because he was 12 and a guy a lot of people wanted (Burns) is producing pass rush, people have issues. I find the angst odd because good posters pointed out before the draft that there wasn't a plethora of value at 12. I suspect if they had gone with any of the available edge rushers at the time they would be viewed as not providing the appropriate production for the 12th pick at this point. I don't know what the end result for Rashan Gary will be, but it seems like withholding judgement at this point and giving it more time is appropriate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lodestar Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 Jadeveon Clowney didn't get his first sack until his 10th career game, and I'm sure he played a heck of a lot more snaps. People need to chill on Gary. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas492 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 11 minutes ago, Ragnar Danneskjold said: Are you referring to this? http://www.nfl.com/player/za'dariussmith/2552279/combine A lot of the same criticism- stiff, can't turn the corner, hard worker but limited I've actually never read that. Thank you for posting it. I was looking at it as where Z was picked in the draft and his stats from his rookie year to this year. Development happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 41 minutes ago, Lodestar said: Jadeveon Clowney didn't get his first sack until his 10th career game, and I'm sure he played a heck of a lot more snaps. People need to chill on Gary. Could be misremembering, but wasn't he coming off microfracture surgery? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfman Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 Just now, AlexGreen#20 said: Could be misremembering, but wasn't he coming off microfracture surgery? What's your point? He was the #1 overall pick if he didn't have a sack in 10 games that makes him a bust! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, Golfman said: What's your point? He was the #1 overall pick if he didn't have a sack in 10 games that makes him a bust! Yes, I definitely said he was a "bust". I'm definitely advocating to cut him. In fact, fire Gute for making such a garbage pick. Seriously? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfman Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, AlexGreen#20 said: Yes, I definitely said he was a "bust". I'm definitely advocating to cut him. In fact, fire Gute for making such a garbage pick. Seriously? You've been trashing him this whole thread. Perhaps the hyperbole was lost on you! When someone posts about another high pick, playing the same position you toss out a LEGITIMATE reason for their lack of production. Except, Gary has one too or did you forget he's playing with a labral tear in his shoulder. Trying to get through the season before a likely surgery. It cuts both ways! So maybe give this kid a break for a week or two! Edited October 22, 2019 by Golfman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas492 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 (edited) We need to chill about Gary. All Alex is doing is gearing him up for a huge day on Sunday. Mark it down. It worked with Rodgers..... Edited October 22, 2019 by vegas492 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfman Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 Just now, vegas492 said: We need to chill about Gary. All Alex is doing is gearing him up for a huge day on Sunday. Mark it down. It worked with Rodgers..... I'd love to see it, but if not, I'm not giving up on the kid. Also, I HATED this draft pick, but he's a Packer now so I'm pulling for him! I hope he can learn how to play and use that athletic ability to dominate! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, Golfman said: You've been trashing him this whole thread. Perhaps the hyperbole was lost on you! When someone posts about another high pick, playing the same position you toss out a LEGITIMATE reason for their lack of production. Except, Gary has one too or did you forget he's playing with a labral tear in his shoulder. Trying to get through the season before a likely surgery. It cuts both ways! So maybe give this kid a break for a week or two! How many damn excuses can we make for a guy? https://www.google.com/amp/s/packerswire.usatoday.com/2019/05/05/why-concern-should-be-low-about-rashan-garys-shoulder-injury/amp/ The shoulder isn't affecting his production. His slow *** first step, terrible bend, and awful hand placement are the reason he's not producing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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