SteelKing728 Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 17 hours ago, CWood21 said: Trust me, it was probably the "right" pick all things considered. Especially given how bad the Vikings have historically been with developing OL. I can't even remember the last late round OL we developed. Danny Isidora and Rashod Hill are capable backups but not really starter level players. Maybe Nick Easton? Jon Sullivan..? I'll give the Packers credit in that they are very good at finding late round OL talent and developing them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RpMc Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 1 hour ago, SteelKing728 said: I can't even remember the last late round OL we developed. Danny Isidora and Rashod Hill are capable backups but not really starter level players. Maybe Nick Easton? Jon Sullivan..? I'll give the Packers credit in that they are very good at finding late round OL talent and developing them. Fusco 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 (edited) Overview Bradbury's body control, core strength, movement skills and intelligence check very important boxes for teams looking for immediate center help. His pass-pro tape against Clemson proves he can hold his own against a variety of pass-rush flavors while his strength and athleticism make him scheme flexible. He is a candidate to become an early and long-time starter in the league. Strengths Good lean muscle mass and core strength Former tight end with above-average athletic talent Fluid mover who can reach, pull and climb successfully Plus reactive athleticism for sudden switch from one block to the next Impressive body control jumps off tape Ready hands are quick to find target in run or pass Grip strength to sn*tch [FF censored this word originally, haha], center and sustain blocks Quick recognition/response against gaming defensive fronts Won't over-set in pass pro and maintains mirror Nose tackles catch those hands in their chest early in their rush Footwork and upper-body power redirect gap rushers Agility to recovery from a poor start to his rep Weaknesses Falls slightly below NFL size averages for the position Forward lean into pass sets could open him to counters Regularity of punch mechanics make him predictable for hand-counters Pass protection benefitted from quick game and play-action attack Should give ground to gain ground on initial zone steps to prevent penetration Rushes lateral movements at times Run blocking gets top-heavy with excessive leaning Doesn't get much movement as drive blocker Won't be able to get away with grabs/holds on second level in NFL https://www.nfl.com/prospects/garrett-bradbury?id=32194252-4109-2951-18e8-697b9ff5297c Edited April 27, 2019 by vike daddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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vike daddy Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 @dpbrugler had Garrett Bradbury ranked as the No. 1 center and No. 17 prospect overall. Dane's scouting report: "He is exceptionally quick, instinctive and tough, ideally suited for a zone-blocking scheme in the NFL where he has Pro Bowl potential." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 Would one take him over James Daniels last year? In terms of upside, I really liked Daniels last year and though he did well starting for the Bears as a rookie even if it was at OG. Or Frank Ragnow for that matter? I would not, I would possibly take him over Billy Price because I was not a giant fan of his but Bradbury is a similar player to Price is just a little bigger. Will see how he does in this new run game blocking system, clearly are going to have to run a lot of stretch zone plays where he goes out and pulls around, too bad Cousins is not athletic enough to boot leg back off that action but will see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RpMc Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 7 minutes ago, Ozzy said: Would one take him over James Daniels last year? In terms of upside, I really liked Daniels last year and though he did well starting for the Bears as a rookie even if it was at OG. Or Frank Ragnow for that matter? I would not, I would possibly take him over Billy Price because I was not a giant fan of his but Bradbury is a similar player to Price is just a little bigger. Will see how he does in this new run game blocking system, clearly are going to have to run a lot of stretch zone plays where he goes out and pulls around, too bad Cousins is not athletic enough to boot leg back off that action but will see. I don't agree with this at all. Cousins has good enough athleticism to boot off of stretch plays. It also doesn't have to be a bootleg off stretch; just ask Peyton Manning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 Just now, RpMc said: I don't agree with this at all. Cousins has good enough athleticism to boot off of stretch plays. It also doesn't have to be a bootleg off stretch; just ask Peyton Manning. Kirk Cousins is not Peyton Manning period. He does not have the ball skills in terms of play fakes or the command of the huddle verbally at the line of scrimmage. Peyton Manning had great ball fakes, amazing control verbally at the line of scrimmage with his cadence and command. He is just a better player in every sense of the word, also is a much bigger player with much longer arms so making those stretch plays was way easier outside of just his better fundamental play in general. Cousins would have to greatly improve to be able to run that play effectively I feel. He is not great at throwing on the move and his play fakes and verbal control at the line of scrimmage is so lacking compared to Manning there is no point to even compare them in any way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RpMc Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 (edited) There was no direct comparison made, but read into it whatever you will. It doesn't take high level athleticism on the part of the quarterback to run play, or boot, action off of outside zone; especially if you have an offensive line that moves well (which we are building with the likes of Bradbury and O'Neill) and have success running outside zone during the course of the game. I've got a QB with a bad knee and hip, and we are able to run it just fine because of our line and success in the ground game. Cousins moves plenty well to be able to run it. However, that doesn't seem to fit your view of things, so go ahead and continue to talk about verbal control. Edited April 27, 2019 by RpMc 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted April 27, 2019 Author Share Posted April 27, 2019 Not this again 🤦♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelKing728 Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 3 hours ago, RpMc said: Fusco And Shamar Stephen! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted April 27, 2019 Author Share Posted April 27, 2019 23 minutes ago, SteelKing728 said: And Shamar Stephen! Who doesn’t play o-line. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VikeManDan Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 Absolutely thrilled with this pick. The board couldn’t have fallen much better for us Thursday night IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
battle2heaven Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 On 4/27/2019 at 11:26 AM, Ozzy said: Would one take him over James Daniels last year? In terms of upside, I really liked Daniels last year and though he did well starting for the Bears as a rookie even if it was at OG. Or Frank Ragnow for that matter? I would not, I would possibly take him over Billy Price because I was not a giant fan of his but Bradbury is a similar player to Price is just a little bigger. Will see how he does in this new run game blocking system, clearly are going to have to run a lot of stretch zone plays where he goes out and pulls around, too bad Cousins is not athletic enough to boot leg back off that action but will see. 100% I would take him over any of those centers. Only James Daniels gives me pause in a zone blocking scheme but Bradbury is way more polished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VikeManDan Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 Haven't seen this posted. Interesting who he is most "comparable" to. https://www.mockdraftable.com/player/garrett-bradbury Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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