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1st Round - 16 Booms/16 Busts

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Kyler Murray, QB, Oklahoma

2
 

Nick Bosa, EDGE, Ohio State

3
 

Quinnen Williams, DT, Alabama

4
 

Clelin Ferrell, EDGE, Clemson

5

Devin White, LB, LSU

6
 

Daniel Jones, QB, Duke

7
 

Josh Allen, LB, Kentucky

8
 

T.J. Hockenson, TE, Iowa

9
 

Ed Oliver, DT, Houston

10

Devin Bush, LB, Michigan

11
 

Jonah Williams, OL, Alabama

12
 

Rashan Gary, EDGE, Michigan

13

Christian Wilkins, DT, Clemson

14
 

Chris Lindstrom, G, Boston College

15

Dwayne Haskins, QB, Ohio State

16

Brian Burns, EDGE, Florida State

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Dexter Lawrence, DT, Clemson

18
 

Garrett Bradbury, C, NC State

19
 

Jeffery Simmons, DT, Mississippi State

20
 

Noah Fant, TE, Iowa

21
 

Darnell Savage, S, Maryland

22
 

Andre Dillard, OT, Washington State

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Tytus Howard, OT, Alabama State

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Josh Jacobs, RB, Alabama

25
 

Marquise Brown, WR, Oklahoma

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Montez Sweat, EDGE, Mississippi State

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Johnathan Abram, S, Mississippi State

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Jerry Tillery, DT, Notre Dame

29
L.J. Collier, EDGE, TCU
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Deandre Baker, CB, Georgia

31
 

Kaleb McGary, OL, Washington

32

N'Keal Harry, WR, Arizona State

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2 hours ago, BigMountainGoat said:

Yes. Those are the round 1 picks. 

yes i know. every year there's this thread. except this year apparently nobody wants to...including me

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1 hour ago, incognito_man said:

yes i know. every year there's this thread. except this year apparently nobody wants to...including me

Because arbitrarily saying there will be 16 boom and 16 bust is strange. 

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I think vast majority are gonna be good here. 

For the bad:

- Daniel Jones could be ok after two years on the bench. But he’ll be middle of the pack. Worth pick 6? No. 

- Been saying all draft season Josh Allen does not fit a 4-3 defense what so ever. Almost all his sacks come untouched and if he’s on a blocker, he’s done. He’d be a great 3-4 EDGE. Would be an average 4-3 DE. 

- Lawrence is not gonna be that good imo. What is Gettleman doing?

- Tytus Howard I had graded as a 3rd Round Prospect. I don’t see him developing much. 

- Tillery’s motor is too hot and cold, I see a inconsistent, mostly cold, career. 

- Gary, bust, as we all have stated many times

Everyone else I think is gonna be a good player. A lot of good talent. 

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1 hour ago, smokeybandit said:

Both QBs, Gary and Jacobs will all be busts.

There were 3 QBs....I would put Ferrell on the list too....drafted too high, over some better players.....the pressure on him will be to high

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10 hours ago, BayRaider said:

I think vast majority are gonna be good here. 

For the bad:

- Daniel Jones could be ok after two years on the bench. But he’ll be middle of the pack. Worth pick 6? No. Agree 100%. This was an absolutely stupid pick and the Giants are going to pay for it.

- Been saying all draft season Josh Allen does not fit a 4-3 defense what so ever. Almost all his sacks come untouched and if he’s on a blocker, he’s done. He’d be a great 3-4 EDGE. Would be an average 4-3 DE. This is a non-issue because the Jaguars run a form of the 3-4. Also Dom Capers will likely add even more plays to that book. Allen also excels in coverage at LB, some the Jags highly value.

- Lawrence is not gonna be that good imo. What is Gettleman doing? I have to somewhat disagree. Alabama’s offensive line had issues at the championship game for a reason. Granted, they should’ve taken Sweat, but Lawrence is graded as a 1st round talent. The Giants simple got questionable value.

- Tytus Howard I had graded as a 3rd Round Prospect. I don’t see him developing much. If he had gone later and to a team with an established line, he would’ve likely developed into a good starter. Problem is, he went to a team with one of the worst O-lines in the league...

- Tillery’s motor is too hot and cold, I see a inconsistent, mostly cold, career. The right coach can fix that.

- Gary, bust, as we all have stated many times  I concur. He’s late off the snap and has no explosiveness. He’s better off as a DT.

 

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2 minutes ago, Jrvegeeta said:

 

The Championship Game Lawrence was suspended for?

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I'll play

 

BOOM:

2. San Francisco 49ers - EDGE Nick Bosa, Ohio State
3. New York Jets - IDL Quinnen Williams, Alabama
5. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - LB 
Devin White, LSU
8. Detroit Lions - TE T.J. Hockenson, Iowa
9. Buffalo Bills - IDL Ed Oliver, Houston
10. Pittsburgh Steelers (from Denver Broncos) - LB 
Devin Bush, Michigan
13. Miami Dolphins - IDL Christian Wilkins, Clemson
14. Atlanta Falcons - OG Chris Lindstrom, Boston College
15. Washington Redskins - QB 
Dwayne Haskins, Ohio State
16. Carolina Panthers - EDGE 
Brian Burns, FSU
18. Minnesota Vikings - OC Garrett Bradbury, NC State
19. Tennessee Titans - IDL Jeffery Simmons, Mississippi State
22. Philadelphia Eagles (from Baltimore Ravens) - OT 
Andre Dillard, Washington State
25. Baltimore Ravens (from Philadelphia Eagles) - WR 
Marquise Brown, Oklahoma
27. Oakland Raiders (from Dallas Cowboys) - S Johnathan Abram, Mississippi State
32. New England Patriots - WR 
N'Keal Harry, Arizona State


BUST:

1. Arizona Cardinals - QB Kyler Murray, Oklahoma
4. Oakland Raiders - EDGE Clelin Ferrell, Clemson
6. New York Giants - QB Daniel Jones, Duke
7. Jacksonville Jaguars - EDGE Josh Allen, Kentucky
11. Cincinnati Bengals - OT 
Jonah Williams, Alabama
12. Green Bay Packers - EDGE Rashan Gary, Michigan
17. New York Giants (from Cleveland Browns) - IDL 
Dexter Lawrence, Clemson
20. Denver Broncos (from Pittsburgh Steelers) - TE 
Noah Fant, Iowa
21. Green Bay Packers (from Seattle Seahawks) - S Darnell Savage, Maryland
23. Houston Texans - OT Tytus Howard, Alabama State
24. Oakland Raiders (from Chicago Bears) RB Joshua Jacobs, Alabama
26. Washington Redskins (from Indianapolis Colts) - EDGE 
Montez Sweat, Mississippi State
28. Los Angeles Chargers - IDL 
Jerry Tillery, Notre Dame
29. Seattle Seahawks (from Kansas City Chiefs) - EDGE L.J. Collier, TCU
30. New York Giants (from Seattle Seahawks via New Orleans Saints via Green Bay Packers) - CB 
Deandre Baker, Georgia
31. Atlanta Falcons (from Los Angeles Rams) - OT Kaleb McGary, Washington




 

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I didn't like the following guys and have not seen a reason to change my mind: Bosa, Ferrell, Jones, Hockenson, Bush, Jonah, Wilkins, Haskins, Fant, Jacobs, Abrams, Collier, McGary, Howard,  and Harry. Which is 15, so I just have to pick one more, so I'll say Hollywood isn't a good fit for Lamar Jackson and his slight frame causes setbacks.

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7 hours ago, Counselor said:

The Championship Game Lawrence was suspended for?

True, he was...but that should say something. Alabama’s O-line got destroyed by Clemon’s D-line - who didn’t even have Lawrence for that game. It actually could’ve been worse for the Tide if he played. He’s the weakest of the 3, but he’s still talented enough to be taken in the 1st round. 

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BOOM:
3. New York Jets - IDL Quinnen Williams, Alabama

6. New York Giants - QB Daniel Jones, Duke

7. Jacksonville Jaguars - EDGE Josh Allen, Kentucky
8. Detroit Lions - TE T.J. Hockenson, Iowa
9. Buffalo Bills - IDL Ed Oliver, Houston
10. Pittsburgh Steelers (from Denver Broncos) - LB 
Devin Bush, Michigan

11. Cincinnati Bengals - OT Jonah Williams, Alabama
13. Miami Dolphins - IDL Christian Wilkins, Clemson
14. Atlanta Falcons - OG Chris Lindstrom, Boston College

17. New York Giants (from Cleveland Browns) - IDL Dexter Lawrence, Clemson
18. Minnesota Vikings - OC Garrett Bradbury, NC State
19. Tennessee Titans - IDL Jeffery Simmons, Mississippi State

20. Denver Broncos (from Pittsburgh Steelers) - TE Noah Fant, Iowa
21. Green Bay Packers (from Seattle Seahawks) - S Darnell Savage, Maryland
22. Philadelphia Eagles (from Baltimore Ravens) - OT Andre Dillard, Washington State

28. Los Angeles Chargers - IDL Jerry Tillery, Notre Dame


BUST:

1. Arizona Cardinals - QB Kyler Murray, Oklahoma

2. San Francisco 49ers - EDGE Nick Bosa, Ohio State
4. Oakland Raiders - EDGE Clelin Ferrell, Clemson

5. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - LB Devin White, LSU
12. Green Bay Packers - EDGE Rashan Gary, Michigan

15. Washington Redskins - QB Dwayne Haskins, Ohio State

16. Carolina Panthers - EDGE Brian Burns, FSU

23. Houston Texans - OT Tytus Howard, Alabama State
24. Oakland Raiders (from Chicago Bears) RB Joshua Jacobs, Alabama

25. Baltimore Ravens (from Philadelphia Eagles) - WR Marquise Brown, Oklahoma
26. Washington Redskins (from Indianapolis Colts) - EDGE 
Montez Sweat, Mississippi State

27. Oakland Raiders (from Dallas Cowboys) - S Johnathan Abram, Mississippi State

29. Seattle Seahawks (from Kansas City Chiefs) - EDGE L.J. Collier, TCU
30. New York Giants (from Seattle Seahawks via New Orleans Saints via Green Bay Packers) - CB 
Deandre Baker, Georgia
31. Atlanta Falcons (from Los Angeles Rams) - OT Kaleb McGary, Washington

32. New England Patriots - WR N'Keal Harry, Arizona State

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13 minutes ago, Jrvegeeta said:

True, he was...but that should say something. Alabama’s O-line got destroyed by Clemon’s D-line - who didn’t even have Lawrence for that game. It actually could’ve been worse for the Tide if he played. He’s the weakest of the 3, but he’s still talented enough to be taken in the 1st round. 

This reads as a bail out 

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