BayRaider Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 Are you guys putting Ferrell as a bust because he won’t live up to Top 5 Pick Status? Cause he’s certainly not gonna be a bad player. Highest floor of the entire class outside of QW (Bosa, injuries). Basically gonna be the next Brandon Graham. Elite Run Defender, 8 sacks a year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PossibleCabbage Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 (edited) 30 minutes ago, BayRaider said: Are you guys putting Ferrell as a bust because he won’t live up to Top 5 Pick Status? I'm defining "bust" by "will not receive 5th year option or an extension in lieu of the 5th year option." For Ferrell, being a top 10 pick at a very expensive position it makes it real tough to pick up that option unless he is absolutely fantastic. Edited April 27, 2019 by PossibleCabbage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 (edited) If Gary flat out busts, I'll leave this forum. EDIT - And no, I'm not part of those "Packers fans will be in here defending Gary after ignoring him all process" or whatever bull**** you folks are spewing now. The dude is an ELITE athlete. His size fits Pettine's EDGE game to a T. He's going to make an impact and his ability to set the edge cleanly will make him serviceable. So, regardless of what you "I read thus I regurgitate" folks believe, he'll manage to be worthy of the pick. Carry on. Edited April 27, 2019 by beekay414 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarCrazy2832 Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 2 hours ago, BayRaider said: Are you guys putting Ferrell as a bust because he won’t live up to Top 5 Pick Status? Cause he’s certainly not gonna be a bad player. Highest floor of the entire class outside of QW (Bosa, injuries). Basically gonna be the next Brandon Graham. Elite Run Defender, 8 sacks a year. Not saying they are the same but the narrative was the same of Solomon Thomas but while the run defender stuff was true the 8 sacks wasn’t i like Ferrell better but sometimes those “safe” run defenders don’t get the sacks/pressures you want to be worth a Top-5 pick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 26 minutes ago, JaguarCrazy2832 said: Not saying they are the same but the narrative was the same of Solomon Thomas but while the run defender stuff was true the 8 sacks wasn’t i like Ferrell better but sometimes those “safe” run defenders don’t get the sacks/pressures you want to be worth a Top-5 pick Ferrell is already a polished pass rusher with three pass rush moves. I don't really see the Solomon comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babyatemydingo Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 On 4/26/2019 at 3:41 AM, incognito_man said: yes i know. every year there's this thread. except this year apparently nobody wants to...including me What he is saying is, but does not know how to articulate is that you need to make this game user friendly. Enable it to be cut and pasted. Nobody wants to type everything all over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babyatemydingo Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 1 boom 2 bust 3 boom 4 bust 5 boom 6 bust 7 boom 8 bust 9 boom 10 boom 11 bust 12 bust 13 boom 14 boom 15 boom 16 bust 17 boom 18 boom 19 boom 20 bust 21 boom 22 boom 23 bust 24 bust 25 boom 26 bust 27 bust 28 bust 29 bust 30 bust 31 bust 32 boom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CP3MVP Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 10 hours ago, BayRaider said: Are you guys putting Ferrell as a bust because he won’t live up to Top 5 Pick Status? Cause he’s certainly not gonna be a bad player. Highest floor of the entire class outside of QW (Bosa, injuries). Basically gonna be the next Brandon Graham. Elite Run Defender, 8 sacks a year. Yeah this is an important point. How are we defining bust? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkippyX Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 The really odd thing about Howard to the Texans is that he was a right tackle in college. I get that it was because his QB was left-handed, but he still has to switch positions while he is a very raw rookie. They needed help now and they got crushed by Philly jumping them. They probably could have traded back to 28-35 and still got him and picked up more draft capital. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkippyX Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 8 hours ago, beekay414 said: If Gary flat out busts, I'll leave this forum. EDIT - And no, I'm not part of those "Packers fans will be in here defending Gary after ignoring him all process" or whatever bull**** you folks are spewing now. The dude is an ELITE athlete. His size fits Pettine's EDGE game to a T. He's going to make an impact and his ability to set the edge cleanly will make him serviceable. So, regardless of what you "I read thus I regurgitate" folks believe, he'll manage to be worthy of the pick. Carry on. He cold be the next Mike Mamula ... except Mike Mamula had 27 sacks in his last 2 years at BC while Gary had 9 at Michigan. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PossibleCabbage Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 Gary is going to be contentious even if he hits, since they are likely to use him like Houston uses Clowney- move him all over, to confuse blocking schemes and set the table for complementary rushers. If you watch Houston, Clowney doing that is super useful but nonetheless if all you scout is the box score, he's not managed double digit sacks yet. But there are a lot of ways to succeed at your job on defense that don't show up in the box score. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 8 hours ago, beekay414 said: If Gary flat out busts, I'll leave this forum. EDIT - And no, I'm not part of those "Packers fans will be in here defending Gary after ignoring him all process" or whatever bull**** you folks are spewing now. The dude is an ELITE athlete. His size fits Pettine's EDGE game to a T. He's going to make an impact and his ability to set the edge cleanly will make him serviceable. So, regardless of what you "I read thus I regurgitate" folks believe, he'll manage to be worthy of the pick. Carry on. I don't love that apparently you guys are going to make him an OLB in that scheme? That's the exact opposite of what my projection for his best fit was. I thought he was going to be a guy that ended up as an SDE or 3 tech to get the most productivity from after bulking up a little bit. I'll be really, really interested in seeing if that works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PossibleCabbage Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 20 minutes ago, Forge said: I don't love that apparently you guys are going to make him an OLB in that scheme? I am pretty sure they're going to line him up primarily at 9, 7, 6, 5, and 3 techniques and also some snaps at ILB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 1 minute ago, PossibleCabbage said: I am pretty sure they're going to line him up primarily at 9, 7, 6, 5, and 3 techniques and also some snaps at ILB. That seems like such a huge range given the physical stature differences required in some of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PossibleCabbage Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, Forge said: That seems like such a huge range given the physical stature differences required in some of them. It's less important that he be able to excel at any of them and more important that he can do okay at all of them, since moving him around pre-snap is going to force blocking schemes to adjust on the fly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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