SteelKing728 Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 Great pick. Instant day 1 starter if we move Rudolph. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gopherwrestler Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 2 hours ago, vikesfan89 said: How pro ready is he? I'd be surprised if they traded Rudolph and counted on Irv that much TE.... even the best... rarely produce year one..... but george kittle did 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RpMc Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 Kid is just 20 years old, we like drafting among the younger players in the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gopherwrestler Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, RpMc said: Kid is just 20 years old, we like drafting among the younger players in the draft. When they produce and are athletic young.... they can be taught..... I think that’s what they like 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 Kyle Rudolph said on Friday night that it’s “awesome” that the team added Smith because offensive assistant Gary Kubiak’s past offenses have featured “a lot of guys who can play at a high level while using multiple tight-end sets.” Rudolph also said that he’s aware of the speculation about the possibility of the Vikings moving on for cap reasons. Rudolph: “This is part of the NFL, younger guys coming in, But I truly believe my best football is still ahead of me. Whether it’s here or not, that’s not my decision. But I do know the football I have left in me, and that’s all I can control.” https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/04/26/kyle-rudolph-awesome-we-drafted-irv-smith-jr/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted April 27, 2019 Author Share Posted April 27, 2019 6 hours ago, RpMc said: Kid is just 20 years old, we like drafting among the younger players in the draft. Offset by Bradbury, who’s almost 24. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 Never heard of the guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
battle2heaven Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 19 minutes ago, Virginia Viking said: Never heard of the guy. Kinda feel that’s on you if you’ve never heard of the starting tight end for the university of Alabama. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 Overview Smith is still green in terms of overall experience, which shows up in run-blocking and route-running, but he has plenty of talent and is likely to get much better in both areas. He has combination tight end talent but really flashes as a move blocker at fullback or wingback spots. His buildup speed sets him apart as a big, field-stretching option and once he gets rolling after the catch. O.J. Howard was bigger, and a better athlete, but like Howard, Smith offers Pro Bowl potential as a well-rounded tight end prospect. Strengths Decent hand placement as in-line blocker Good footwork to reach and secure the edge Fluid and rhythmic with his timing up to second-level targets Effective lead blocker as an H-back or fullback Speed to create immediate strain in the seam or downfield Might be too much for linebackers to handle in man Extensive collection of routes took him to all areas of the field Good route strength pushing through the contact Offers sturdy target in the middle of the field Can post up tight coverage out of his breaks Hand strength to secure contested catches Able to elevate and compete in-air Drags tacklers for additional yards after catch Weaknesses Needs to add mass and upper-body strength for blocking duties Doesn't always block with consistent effort and strain Can overstep his landmark as run blocker Needs to play faster more consistently Rounded routes allow coverage shortcuts to catch point Feet are a little heavy getting into breaks, causing delays to open Rarely works back to the throw Not a natural hands catcher and fights the football Slows way down when turning to find football Lacks short-area wiggle for quick catch and run https://www.nfl.com/prospects/irv-smith?id=3219534d-4900-0018-f675-8c060d792d35 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Klomp Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 A simple model would only look at his weight and 40-yard dash and conclude that his athletic profile was positive, and simplicity may be better. In fact, weight-adjusted 40-yard dash beats SPARQ outright in predicting tight end outcomes. But tight ends that have done well in the NFL, historically, have run faster than 2.73 seconds in the 20-yard split, jumped higher than 33 inches in the vertical leap and ran quicker than 7.30 seconds in the three-cone drill. Smith just barely missed out on all three, running 2.74 seconds in the 20-yard split, 32.5 inches in the vertical and 7.32 seconds in the three-cone. With a slightly different set of data to construct the model, Smith may look like an athletic success instead of a risk. But, it’s also worth outlining that while Smith may have barely missed the cutoffs, he missed multiple cutoffs, not just one. Essentially, it’s up to your judgement whether or not a half-inch in the vertical, and 0.03 combined seconds in two drills can sway your mind, especially for a player that didn’t run a second set of drills at his Pro Day to improve his times. https://theathletic.com/949106/2019/04/27/irv-smith-jr-and-alexander-mattison-what-the-data-says-about-vikings-picks/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heimdallr Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 I really hope we keep Rudolph and we see a lot of 2TE looks this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RpMc Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 11 minutes ago, Heimdallr said: I really hope we keep Rudolph and we see a lot of 2TE looks this year. Easily could and flex Irv around the formation as a move guy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 5 hours ago, battle2heaven said: Kinda feel that’s on you if you’ve never heard of the starting tight end for the university of Alabama. Well...that would require that I watch college football...which isn't really football that I recognize these days. Anyway, I don't think I recall anyone on this forum talking about him...which is basically how I receive my information about college players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingsrule Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Heimdallr said: I really hope we keep Rudolph and we see a lot of 2TE looks this year. Only concern is Morgan would be playing less and hes a really good blocker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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