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The only surprise for me was not taking a shot on an OT. Maybe the coaches have plans for Spriggs and or Turner that we don't know about. We can always draft one in the First Round next year if necessary. We are probably covered enough to get through this season - knock on wood. TE, DL, picks cover impending expiring contracts and we got our starting Safety.  Weakest position left on the roster is ILB

 

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20 minutes ago, incognito_man said:

He will cost approx 4x more than our entire rookie class over the next 5 years too though ha

For sure.  It is not like CHI gave those picks away or had them forfeited by some rules violation.  That draft capital was used on Mack.  Grading CHI use of the 2019 draft capital should include having Mack.  

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Just now, Sasquatch said:

Drew Lock was definitely being highly considered by GB, according to Nagler:

There's a stark difference between being considered, and actually going to pick.  I don't but that they would have taken Lock at 44.  But it was enough to convince Denver that they needed to move up to select him.

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14 minutes ago, CWood21 said:

There's a stark difference between being considered, and actually going to pick.  I don't but that they would have taken Lock at 44.  But it was enough to convince Denver that they needed to move up to select him.

Ok, I’ll Tweet Nagler and let him know.

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2 hours ago, cannondale said:

The only surprise for me was not taking a shot on an OT. Maybe the coaches have plans for Spriggs and or Turner that we don't know about. We can always draft one in the First Round next year if necessary. We are probably covered enough to get through this season - knock on wood. TE, DL, picks cover impending expiring contracts and we got our starting Safety.  Weakest position left on the roster is ILB

 

Yeah.  I'm guessing they maybe view Turner as the next best OT on the roster.  If they see it that way, and **IF** Turner is OT capable AND Jenkins is LG/RG/C capable right away, then they'd be positioned to replace any injured guy without needing to beyond their front 6 guys. 

Assuming Jenkins as 6th man, he could hypothetically replace any of the three inside guys if injured.  And if one of the tackles gets hurt, then Turner would move outside and Jenkins could take his spot.  So *IF* those two guys are both good, you'd have better injury coverage than we've had in a while, I think?  

But, whether they're both actually good, that's not a safe assumption...

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I'm skeptical at the reports that the Colts were highly interested in Savage considering they drafted Malik Hooker in the first round a couple of years ago.  Originally I thought we jumped ahead of Baltimore but then I remembered they signed Earl Thomas to a large contract. The fact both of these teams traded down after we selected Savage could just simply be a coincidence. Looking further down Houston signed Gipson, Oakland signed Joyner. I'm honestly not sure who we tried to jump ahead of, Maybe Washington or Chargers, maybe even Seattle if they had no inkling that we were looking to take Savage.

6 hours ago, cannondale said:

The only surprise for me was not taking a shot on an OT. Maybe the coaches have plans for Spriggs and or Turner that we don't know about. We can always draft one in the First Round next year if necessary. We are probably covered enough to get through this season - knock on wood. 

Me too, however looking at the depth chart more closely clearly we have two established OT so we're good there. We have Spriggs as our swing OT and on paper he might actually be a better fit in LaFleur's ZBS considering he's our most athletic OL. I think De Beer is another potential swing tackle who is also pretty athletic whom we need to keep a close eye on. If Turner and Jenkins/Madison are locked into the starting guard spots then we may need to find another backup swing OT. Based on nothing at all my gut feeling is De Beer could be that guy - he got the perfect name too.

Had we stayed at pick 30 i'm not sure who we could've drafted. I really liked Dillard but it was apparent he wasn't gonna make it that far down. I don't think Savage would've been available either. We would've been looking at DeAndre Baker, Rock Ya Sin, Sean Bunting, N'Keal Harry, Kaleb McGary, Drew Lock, Dalton Risner. Had we not traded up I think it was likely we would've attempted to trade down. I think the scenario where we would've drafted Drew Lock would've come into play had we traded down.

Considering we have not brought in a speedy WR and a KO/Punt returner, one has to wonder if Trevor Davis will making the roster? 

In our offensive system LaFleur needs an outside speed receiver to stretch defences to open up the underneath game. The Shanahan/McVay offences all ulitise this particular type of player and it makes sense LaFleur will too. Davis can fill that situational role AND be our special teams returner. If that's the case then we're looking at keeping 6 WRs for our final 53 roster.

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Just now, HyponGrey said:

I think we still need someone to emerge in the return game. Only real knock I can think of.

The only players on the roster likely to be our returner next season is probably Trevor Davis and Natrell Jamerson, maybe Tony Brown and Dexter Willliams. Otherwise we're in trouble. I thought we were going to recommit to improving our ST play but we simply did not have enough draft picks to pick up a return specialist and it also seems like we stuck out in UDFA if we were looking for one.

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One of my favorite drafts in recent memory.  First 3 picks will all contribute early.  Was hoping for a speed/gadget/returner type but that's about the only thing missing.  Wish we would have picked up a true tackle, but that O-line room right now is deep and versatile and what do I know about that anyways?

 

Honestly can't even really believe the D changes.  We added 4 for starters between the offseason and draft.  I don't even know that I know what it will look like last year they played Pettine's scheme with a bunch of TT/Capers player.  

 

The draft felt  bit more interesting this year trying to account for the schematic changes.  If Gary hits 70-80% of his potential that's fine.  

 

Been watching Savage over and over again.  He just jumps off the screen.  All highlights are good but he is steaming towards the ball a lot.  If he becomes Bob Sanders we are in the hunt ASAP

 

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2 hours ago, Chili said:

I'm skeptical at the reports that the Colts were highly interested in Savage considering they drafted Malik Hooker in the first round a couple of years ago.  Originally I thought we jumped ahead of Baltimore but then I remembered they signed Earl Thomas to a large contract. The fact both of these teams traded down after we selected Savage could just simply be a coincidence. Looking further down Houston signed Gipson, Oakland signed Joyner. I'm honestly not sure who we tried to jump ahead of, Maybe Washington or Chargers, maybe even Seattle if they had no inkling that we were looking to take Savage.

Had we stayed at pick 30 i'm not sure who we could've drafted. I really liked Dillard but it was apparent he wasn't gonna make it that far down. I don't think Savage would've been available either. 

We signed Amos, with this logic why would we draft Savage?

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8 hours ago, cannondale said:

The only surprise for me was not taking a shot on an OT. Maybe the coaches have plans for Spriggs and or Turner that we don't know about. We can always draft one in the First Round next year if necessary. We are probably covered enough to get through this season - knock on wood. TE, DL, picks cover impending expiring contracts and we got our starting Safety.  Weakest position left on the roster is ILB

 

I made a post about combining RAS and draft boards to figure out who might be valued where. One thing that project suggested was that there wasn’t a ton of value out there for the tackle position this year. If we didn’t want to invest a first in Dillard/Williams/Taylor, then McGary/Howard were the next best fits until the third day. This lack of value is what I believe pushed McGary/Howard up to that first round.

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2 hours ago, Chili said:

I'm skeptical at the reports that the Colts were highly interested in Savage considering they drafted Malik Hooker in the first round a couple of years ago.  Originally I thought we jumped ahead of Baltimore but then I remembered they signed Earl Thomas to a large contract. The fact both of these teams traded down after we selected Savage could just simply be a coincidence. Looking further down Houston signed Gipson, Oakland signed Joyner. I'm honestly not sure who we tried to jump ahead of, Maybe Washington or Chargers, maybe even Seattle if they had no inkling that we were looking to take Savage.

Me too, however looking at the depth chart more closely clearly we have two established OT so we're good there. We have Spriggs as our swing OT and on paper he might actually be a better fit in LaFleur's ZBS considering he's our most athletic OL. I think De Beer is another potential swing tackle who is also pretty athletic whom we need to keep a close eye on. If Turner and Jenkins/Madison are locked into the starting guard spots then we may need to find another backup swing OT. Based on nothing at all my gut feeling is De Beer could be that guy - he got the perfect name too.

Had we stayed at pick 30 i'm not sure who we could've drafted. I really liked Dillard but it was apparent he wasn't gonna make it that far down. I don't think Savage would've been available either. We would've been looking at DeAndre Baker, Rock Ya Sin, Sean Bunting, N'Keal Harry, Kaleb McGary, Drew Lock, Dalton Risner. Had we not traded up I think it was likely we would've attempted to trade down. I think the scenario where we would've drafted Drew Lock would've come into play had we traded down.

Considering we have not brought in a speedy WR and a KO/Punt returner, one has to wonder if Trevor Davis will making the roster? 

In our offensive system LaFleur needs an outside speed receiver to stretch defences to open up the underneath game. The Shanahan/McVay offences all ulitise this particular type of player and it makes sense LaFleur will too. Davis can fill that situational role AND be our special teams returner. If that's the case then we're looking at keeping 6 WRs for our final 53 roster.

Dont look into it that too much. Savage is one of those players that can play more then just single high safety. His versatility is why he was so valued.

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