Elky Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 On top of my head, I can't recall a team giving up on a first round pick, one they traded up for mind you, this quickly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlNFL19 Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 We’ll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter2_1 Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 I don't think he is a bust 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apparition Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 Way too early for this. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nextsuperstar1 Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 2 hours ago, Elky said: On top of my head, I can't recall a team giving up on a first round pick, one they traded up for mind you, this quickly. He was the last coach’s guy. New coach wants a different guy. Kingsbury’s career is going to depend entirely on Murray. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan33185 Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 He's played 14 games in his career, way too early to be saying bust. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ForTheThumb Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 On 4/27/2019 at 12:13 PM, Elky said: On top of my head, I can't recall a team giving up on a first round pick, one they traded up for mind you, this quickly. Rosen was thrown into the worst scenarios for a first year QB that I can ever recall. Historically bad OL, terrible WR corps, running game was awful (due to how the Coaching staff used Johnson), rookie play calling OC. For some reason he constantly gets dragged by the media. Trading for Rosen was a super, super sharp move by the Dolphins. They get him at $6M for the next three-years. At a minimum, that is a ridiculous bargain for a starting caliber QB who has potential. I think that's the same amount of money Colt McCoy makes. You evaluate him next year, tank, acquire picks, and if you don't think he's the guy, you take another QB next year. The Dolphins get it right now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elky Posted April 30, 2019 Author Share Posted April 30, 2019 (edited) 11 hours ago, 1ForTheThumb said: Rosen was thrown into the worst scenarios for a first year QB that I can ever recall. Historically bad OL, terrible WR corps, running game was awful (due to how the Coaching staff used Johnson), rookie play calling OC. For some reason he constantly gets dragged by the media. Trading for Rosen was a super, super sharp move by the Dolphins. They get him at $6M for the next three-years. At a minimum, that is a ridiculous bargain for a starting caliber QB who has potential. I think that's the same amount of money Colt McCoy makes. You evaluate him next year, tank, acquire picks, and if you don't think he's the guy, you take another QB next year. The Dolphins get it right now. He gets dragged by the media because he's a spoiled punk. Josh Allen inherited just as bad of a scenario and, while he still sorta sucked, he showed he can at least be somewhat functional. If Rosen had any "potential", Arizona wouldn't have given up on him this quickly. Edited April 30, 2019 by Elky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoleINGout Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 6 minutes ago, Elky said: He gets dragged by the media because he's a spoiled punk. Josh Allen inherited just as bad of a scenario and, while he still sorta sucked, he showed he can at least be somewhat functional. If Rosen had any "potential", Arizona wouldn't have given up on him this quickly. Brian Daboll and the Bills organization 2018 (even now in 2019) > Cardinals in 2018 What fid they have at first, Mike McCoy? Whoever it was got fired, then the head coach, and the GM somehow survived and is on the hot seat unless things drastically improve this year with the undersized rookie Kyler Murray at QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elky Posted April 30, 2019 Author Share Posted April 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, DoleINGout said: Brian Daboll and the Bills organization 2018 (even now in 2019) > Cardinals in 2018 What fid they have at first, Mike McCoy? Whoever it was got fired, then the head coach, and the GM somehow survived and is on the hot seat unless things drastically improve this year with the undersized rookie Kyler Murray at QB. No, I distinctly remember when everyone had Buffalo picking first overall. They looked absolutely atrocious with Pinterman and everyone thought Allen was going to get killed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoleINGout Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, Elky said: No, I distinctly remember when everyone had Buffalo picking first overall. They looked absolutely atrocious with Pinterman and everyone thought Allen was going to get killed. That was before Brian Daboll took over offense. And Pederman came before the current regime. Pederman is a special kind of special all on his own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CP3MVP Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 There’s nothing special about him as a prospect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter2_1 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 16 hours ago, Elky said: He gets dragged by the media because he's a spoiled punk. Josh Allen inherited just as bad of a scenario and, while he still sorta sucked, he showed he can at least be somewhat functional. If Rosen had any "potential", Arizona wouldn't have given up on him this quickly. What makes you say he's spoiled? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ForTheThumb Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 19 hours ago, Hunter2_1 said: What makes you say he's spoiled? The media dragging his name 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m haynes Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 On 4/30/2019 at 7:15 AM, 1ForTheThumb said: Rosen was thrown into the worst scenarios for a first year QB that I can ever recall. Historically bad OL, terrible WR corps, running game was awful (due to how the Coaching staff used Johnson), rookie play calling OC. For some reason he constantly gets dragged by the media. Trading for Rosen was a super, super sharp move by the Dolphins. They get him at $6M for the next three-years. At a minimum, that is a ridiculous bargain for a starting caliber QB who has potential. I think that's the same amount of money Colt McCoy makes. You evaluate him next year, tank, acquire picks, and if you don't think he's the guy, you take another QB next year. The Dolphins get it right now. I have a worst scenario that Rosan. Jim Plunkett! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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