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Offseason Phase III - The Finite (Roster Space) War


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16 minutes ago, Krauser said:

Way too early roster projection: 

QB (3): Cousins, Mannion, Browning/Sloter (whoever wins the preseason)

RB (4): Cook, Mattison, Abdullah, Ham (FB)

WR (5): Diggs, Thielen, Thomas, Boone, Mitchell/Johnson

TE (4): Rudolph, Smith, Morgan, Conklin

OL (9): Reiff, Elflein, Bradbury, Kline, O'Neill, Hill, Samia, Isidora, Udoh

DL (10): Hunter, Griffen, Joseph, Stephen, Weatherly, Bower, Holmes, Johnson, Watts, Mata'afa (hope springs eternal)

LB (6): Barr, Kendricks, Wilson, Gedeon, Downs, Smith

CB (5): Rhodes, Waynes, Hughes, Alexander, Boyd (*Hill suspended)

S (4): Smith, Harris, Kearse, Epps

ST (3): Wile, Bailey, Cutting

Notable cuts here: Treadwell, Brothers, Brett Jones, both Boone and Thomas

I don't know anything about the AAF signings or the rookie UDFAs and so have ignored them completely here. 


 

Abdullah over Boone for special teams or because he’s a redundant fit with Mattison?

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Here's my early crack at it:

 

Quarterbacks
QB1: Kirk Cousins
QB2: Sean Mannion (UFA)

QB3: Kyle Sloter

Practice Squad ("PS"): Jake Browning (R - UDFA)

Runningbacks
RB1: Dalvin Cook
RB2: Mike Boone
RB3: Alexander Mattison (R - 3rd)

FB: CJ Ham 

Cut: Roc Thomas, Ameer Abdullah, Khari Blasingame (R - UDFA)


Wide Receivers
WR1:Stefon Diggs
WR2: Adam Thielen
WR3: Laquon Treadwell
WR4: Chad Beebe
WR5: Dillon Mitchell (R - 7th)

PS: Jeff Badet, Olabisi Johnson (R - 7th)
Cut: Brandon Zylstra, Taylor Jordan (UFA), Davion Davis (R - UDFA)

Tight End
TE1:Kyle Rudolph
TE2:David Morgan
TE3: Irv Smith Jr (R - 2nd)

PS:  Brandon Dillon (R - UDFA)
Cut: Tyler Conklin, Cole Hikutini

Tackles
LT: Riley Reiff
RT: Brian O'Neill
OT3: Rashod Hill
OT4: Storm Norton
PS: Oli Udoh (R - 6th)

Cut: Adam Bisnowaty

Guards
RG: Josh Kline (UFA)
LG: Pat Elflein
OG3: Aviante Collins
OG4: Dru Samia (R - 4th)
Cut: Danny Isidora, Dakota Dozier (UFA)

PS: John Keenoy (R - UDFA)

Centers
C1: Garrett Bradbury (R - 1st)
C2: Cornelius Edison
Cut: Brett Jones

Defensive Ends
LE: Danielle Hunter
RE: Everson Griffen
DE3: Stephen Weatherly
DE4:Tashawn Bower
DE5: Ade Aruna
Cut: Karter Schult (UFA), Anree Saint-Armour (R - UDFA)

Defensive Tackles
NT: Linval Joseph
DT: Shamar Stephen (UFA)
DT3: Jaleel Johnson
DT4: Jalyn Holmes
DT5: Ifeadi Odenigbo
PS: Armon Watts (R - 6th), Hercules Mata'afa
Cut: Curtis Cothran, Tito Odenigbo (R - UDFA)

Linebackers
MLB: Eric Kendricks
OLB: Anthony Barr
OLB: Ben Gedeon
LB4: Eric Wilson
LB5: Cameron Smith (R - 5th)

PS: Reshard Cliett

Cut: Devante Downs, Kentrell Brothers, Greer Martini (UFA)

Cornerbacks
CB1: Xavier Rhodes
CB2: Trae Waynes
CB3: Mike Hughes
CB4: Mackensie Alexander
CB5: Holton Hill
CB6: Duke Thomas (UFA)

PS: Craig James

Cut: Kris Boyd (R - 7th), Nate Meadors (R - UDFA)

Safeties
S1: Harrison Smith
S2: Anthony Harris
S3:Jayron Kearse

S4: Mar'Sean Diggs (R - UDFA)

Cut: Derron Smith (UFA), Marcus Epps (R -6th), Jordan Martin (UFA), Micah Prince Abernathy (R- UDFA)

Specialists
K: Dan Bailey
P: Matt Wile
LS: Austin Cutting (R - 7th)

Cut: Kevin McDermott

 

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1 hour ago, SteelKing728 said:

I thought Austin Cutting won't play this year due to priot military commitments?

He may or may not, it depends upon the negotiations with the Air Force.  It's possible that he could get his service delayed.  

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2 hours ago, SteelKing728 said:

I thought Austin Cutting won't play this year due to priot military commitments?

There is precedent for a long snapper from a military school being able to play right away. Long snapper Joe Cardona was selected in the 2015 draft out of Navy by New England, and arrangements were made to get him immediately on the roster. He has been with the Patriots ever since.

For now, Cutting expects to attend Minnesota’s rookie minicamp May 3-5.

https://www.twincities.com/2019/04/27/austin-cutting-to-serve-his-country-with-air-force-but-still-could-be-vikings-long-snapper/

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47 minutes ago, vikingsrule said:

I see Conklin cut a lot. Why? If we're running a lot more 2 TE sets, I'd expect 4TEs/5 WRs. Conklin has good size, I'd like to see him be given another year as the Vikes may need a big inline TE to replace Rudolph in a year.

Agree they'll keep 4 TEs this year. 

Conklin wasn't good as a rookie but TEs typically need 2 years to show what they can do. Unless he gets beaten out by a UDFA, I think he'll make the team. 

Still, I doubt Conklin will ever be good enough to replace Rudolph. Despite his size, he was a terrible blocker last year. I think they'll need to draft another TE if they do let Rudolph go.

Morgan might be a better fit as a Rudolph replacement -- he's slow but he's got great hands and he's a strong blocker. This is Morgan's 4th year so he'll need to be extended if they're promoting him to be Rudolph's replacement. 

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I personally just only see them carrying 3 and keeping 1 on the practice squad, just because of the sheer number of roster spots...if you keep 4 TEs then someone's going to have to come off the defense (in my scenario it's 25-25) because I think they'd want to keep 10 OL (but I suppose they could manage to keep just 9 because of the flexibility)...and we know how Zim likes to have depth available on his defense.  In the power struggle on roster spots, the HC is going to win. 

Carrying 3 TEs still shouldn't have a huge impact on the amount of 2 TE sets you can run.  For an example, even in the Broncos Super Bowl run, Kubiak only carried 3 TEs: Owen Daniels, Vernon Davis, and Virgil Green.  With CJ Ham already in the fold as a FB (which Denver didn't have), they can get away with only have 3 TEs (Denver carried 6 WRs).

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They don't have to come off of this defense.

With Cousins health, and the fact that we are screwed if he gets hurt anyway, this team should only be keeping two QBs on the active roster and one on the practice squad.  That's long been my stance on what teams that have an established, and unchallenged, veteran should do.

Cousins, Sloter, Browning (PS) is the ideal scenario given our current QBs

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31 minutes ago, RpMc said:

They don't have to come off of this defense.

With Cousins health, and the fact that we are screwed if he gets hurt anyway, this team should only be keeping two QBs on the active roster and one on the practice squad.  That's long been my stance on what teams that have an established, and unchallenged, veteran should do.

Cousins, Sloter, Browning (PS) is the ideal scenario given our current QBs

Well, I'll believe they'll carry 2 QBs when I actually see it.  They haven't done so ever, so why expect it to change?  

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