cannondale Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 If we're talking 5 tech here, I think it's about time we try the 6'-4"+ guys. But I also think we need to draft ILB's for this century as well so what do I know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 8 hours ago, AlexGreen#20 said: Other than Mike Daniels, who else fits that bill? Clark has 32" arms. That's short. Gallimore isn't much different than Clark, 3/4" longer on the arms, 1" shorter on height. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainmaker90 Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 For everyone who is spending a lot of time looking at first round receivers or Inside LBs, I would say spend more time looking at Tackle and D-line. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 3 hours ago, Rainmaker90 said: For everyone who is spending a lot of time looking at first round receivers or Inside LBs, I would say spend more time looking at Tackle and D-line. Why do you say this? Could it have something to do with the fact that 7 of our last 13 first round picks have been DL/EDGE? 2 of the remaining 6 have been OT? 4 of the remaining 4 have been DB? Or that the last time we drafted an ILB in the first round was when a TE, 2 safeties, another ILB and two quarterbacks were the next picks taken and we had Collins, Bigby, Manuel and Peprah on our roster at safety and had just drafted Aaron Rodgers? Or that the last time we drafted a receiver in the first round was due to the same man who spent 90 billion dollars on Joe Johnson, drafted Jamal Reynolds, drafted Bubba Franks 14th overall and used a 20th overall pick on Javon Walker? Because I think you might be onto something. And damn, Sherman was God-awful. I am not blaming Wolf on Franks. That was a Sherman move. Mike Sherman did literally all of the things that you should never do that I always preach. He must have been run by PackfanFB and TOT. *Overspent on a crap free agent who clearly wanted a paycheck. *Drafted a TE 14th overall. *WR 20th overall. *ILB 29th overall. *Drafted a 5'9 cornerback 25th overall. Damn he was terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Penske Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 24 minutes ago, Outpost31 said: Why do you say this? Could it have something to do with the fact that 7 of our last 13 first round picks have been DL/EDGE? 2 of the remaining 6 have been OT? 4 of the remaining 4 have been DB? Or that the last time we drafted an ILB in the first round was when a TE, 2 safeties, another ILB and two quarterbacks were the next picks taken and we had Collins, Bigby, Manuel and Peprah on our roster at safety and had just drafted Aaron Rodgers? Or that the last time we drafted a receiver in the first round was due to the same man who spent 90 billion dollars on Joe Johnson, drafted Jamal Reynolds, drafted Bubba Franks 14th overall and used a 20th overall pick on Javon Walker? Because I think you might be onto something. And damn, Sherman was God-awful. I am not blaming Wolf on Franks. That was a Sherman move. Mike Sherman did literally all of the things that you should never do that I always preach. He must have been run by PackfanFB and TOT. *Overspent on a crap free agent who clearly wanted a paycheck. *Drafted a TE 14th overall. *WR 20th overall.*ILB 29th overall. *Drafted a 5'9 cornerback 25th overall. Damn he was terrible. Didn't you love this player though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Just now, Arthur Penske said: Didn't you love this player though? Yes I was also 14. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodjahs12 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Some talk of Henry Ruggs receiving a 2nd round grade from teams. If he falls to 30 I wouldn’t hesitate to pick him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Just read up on Gallimore: https://thedraftnetwork.com/player/neville-gallimore Big Red Flags: Kyle Crabbs: Two Gap Ability - He isn't a true nose in the sense that he's better in attack mode versus read and react. Will show stack and shed skills but he's more sufficient with it when stringing out the center laterally versus locking horns in 1 v 1 and being tasked with late shed and attacking adjacent gaps. Worse off... Joe Marino: Has some lowlights when tasked with holding at the point. Isn’t the most consistent anchoring against drive blocks or doubles. Has to be more consistent keeping his pads low and fighting for his gap against the run. Power is much more dynamic moving forward then when he has to anchor and keep his ground. Block recognition and deconstruction against the run has plenty of room for upward growth. *Marino also says his worst trait is run defense -------- This all but confirms of what I saw of him in both the Iowa State and Baylor games this season: he can press the pocket on passing downs, but he's washed out of the play on run downs. Sure, he's explosive and that's all fine and dandy, but we're looking for a guy that's a run-stuffer who can push the pocket. Sacks aren't necessarily important for our DL. Gallimore's better off in a 4-3 front like that of the Giants where he's next to a Dexter Lawrence or in Zimmer's defense alongside Linval Joseph; plain and simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fattlipp Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 (edited) On 1/26/2020 at 10:53 PM, Outpost31 said: We also need more Jaires on this defense. Less Lowrys, Martinezes, Kings. I feel like the latter three are soft as hell. You were supporting Blake (and Ryan) the last 3-4 seasons when many of us were calling them JAGS and asking for MLB upgrades, Myles Jack, Jaylon Smith. Mychal Kendricks, Kwan Alexander, Devin Bush, Devin White, Zach Brown. Edited January 29, 2020 by fattlipp 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 On 1/27/2020 at 8:40 AM, Rainmaker90 said: For everyone who is spending a lot of time looking at first round receivers or Inside LBs, I would say spend more time looking at Tackle and D-line. I just did. It's more likely that we'll trade down, grab Raekwon Davis or another similar prospect, and then draft a WR if we don't draft WR first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Just now, fattlipp said: You were supporting Blake the last 2-3 seasons when many of us were calling for MLB upgrades, Mychal Kendricks, Kwan Alexander, Devin Bush, Devin White, Zach Brown. Yes I was. Before it became obvious that Pettine has no intention of creating a scheme that fits Blake's skills and instead expects him to take on people who outweigh him by like 60 pounds and be effective at it. What do Kendricks, Alexander, Bush, White and Zach Brown all have in common? They would be manhandled in our scheme just as easily as Blake was. What else do they all have in common? 62.7 61.3 62.9 50.6 55.3 PFF scores very similar to Blake's 58.7. Bush and White required top 10 draft picks. Zach Brown has been cut/not re-signed by 5 different teams. You see these players making highlight plays, but you don't see their lowlight plays. They aren't good. None of those players are good. Fast, but not good. If you want fast, just put Amos at ILB and you'd get the same impact. Martinez - 3 sacks, 1 int Kendricks - 3 sacks, 1 int Alexander - .5 sacks (note the .), 1 int Bush - 2 sacks, 2 int White - 2.5 sacks, 1 int Brown - 3.5 sacks, 0 int... In his last three seasons. You all act like these players are extreme upgrades over Martinez when they're not. The truth is all of the players you just mentioned were put in better positions to succeed than Blake. Every single one of those teams has a better defensive front. Every single one. Martinez haters often say "Derp a derp he never tackles for loss." Martinez - 5 tackles for loss. Alexander - 3 tackles for loss. Brown - 2 tackles for loss. Kendricks - 8 tacles for loss. White - 4 tackles for loss. The only one who was significantly higher than Blake was Bush with 12 or something. You want to trade up to 10th overall to get 7 more tackles for loss per season? Now I'm no expert, but I'd like to think that Watt/Dupree/Hayward/Alualu/Hargrave/McCullers are better than Smith/Smith/Clark/Lowry. Wouldn't you agree? For ****'s sake people. This is all sorts of stupid. These linebackers are not better than Blake. When it comes to ILB, there are three classes: Elite - The list of linebackers here is 4 long. That's it. Good - Martinez is here. The list of linebackers here is probably 14 strong. Bad - We're not here. The difference between each ranking is not significant. You see all these fast linebackers and think they can do what Bobby Wagner does. They cannot. The things these light/fast ILBs can do that Blake can't do are negated by the things they cannot do that Blake can do. Are you honestly going to sit there and act like Kwon Alexander at 227 pounds could take on blockers better than Martinez can? Do you understand how absolutely absurd that is? Kwon Alexander outweighs Jaire ****ing Alexander by 30 pounds. Are you going to ****ing sit there and act like every ****ing Packer fan wouldn't want him run out of town? He's played in 26 of his last 48 games and people are acting like Bulaga is too injury prone to re-sign. And Devin White? Dude, Devin White sucked. He sucked faster than Martinez. Is that what you want? You want a linebacker just back there creating havoc not only for the offense but also the defense? Tampa Bay just passed on Josh Allen and Ed Oliver for a ****ing ILB. They were 29th in the league in points against. This is just hemorrhage inducing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fattlipp Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Quick Off-Season https://fanspeak.com/ultimategm/otc/draft.php?d=dwoxvr&b=4&po=&t=1015&nr=7&dl=difficult&cb=0 Site front loads deals a ton, those Jones and Williams Deals are like 5/60m deals 45% Guaranteed CUTS Name Position Jimmy Graham TE Lane Taylor G SIGNED PLAYERS Name Position Cap Hit Mason Crosby K 2,800,000 Bryan Bulaga OT 6,580,000 Marcedes Lewis TE 1,800,000 Kyler Fackrell EDGE 1,925,000 Chris Jones DL 7,050,000 Leonard Williams DL 6,750,000 Breshad Perriman WR 4,025,000 Zach Brown LB 2,812,500 Nick Kwiatkoski LB 2,275,000 TRADES TRADE PARTNER: PITTSBURGH STEELERS SENT: ROUND: 3 PICK: 30 RECEIVED: ROUND: 3 PICK: 38 and ROUND: 4 PICK: 18 PICKS 30: R1P30 C TYLER BIADASZ WISCONSIN 62: R2P30 WR K.J. HAMLER PENN STATE 102: R3P38 TE BRYCEN HOPKINS PURDUE 121: R4P18 WR TYLER JOHNSON MINNESOTA 133: R4P30 LB BARON BROWNING OHIO STATE 175: R5P29 RB NAJEE HARRIS ALABAMA 192: R6P13 CB ERIC STOKES GEORGIA 209: R6P30 CB LEVONTA TAYLOR FLORIDA STATE 224: R7P10 G JOHN SIMPSON CLEMSON 242: R7P28 S NIGEL WARRIOR TENNESSEE 243: R7P29 K RODRIGO BLANKENSHIP GEORGIA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fl0nkerton Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 I would has a sad if we went Center at 30 lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fattlipp Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 (edited) and having speed at MLB isnt about tackles for a loss but covering the Duke Johnson, James Whites and Kamara types out of the backfield. Blake looks like Brian Noble trying to do that..... We can sign a Morrison types to put in in games like we had against SF, to bad he wasn't still on the roster......We should have a 350 NT on the team like Shelton for games like that as well...move Clark outside... Edited January 29, 2020 by fattlipp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fattlipp Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Fl0nkerton said: I would has a sad if we went Center at 30 lol Yeah, but they may not want to pay Linsley .... so went logic instead of WR/LB like i wanted too and DL can be overlooked if had Williams/Clark/Jones... Lowry,/Lancaster/Keke/Adams Edited January 29, 2020 by fattlipp 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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