vikes635 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 On 2/9/2020 at 3:50 PM, SteelKing728 said: Am I the only one who can't connect to the link? Or...is that just a picture? Lol Arrow in top right should bring you to that forum topic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikes635 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Just now, vikes635 said: Arrow in top right should bring you to that forum topic sorry steal king, Thought I was on last page here. didn't realize how old post was lol! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 23 hours ago, SemperFeist said: I like Jr., but ick! i'd take him if we traded down to #32 and got another pick too. #32 is in the first round, ya know... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 35 minutes ago, vike daddy said: i'd take him if we traded down to #32 and got another pick too. #32 is in the first round, ya know... I’m not interested in taking a safety anywhere in the top 100. This defense has been extremely successful with two undrafted safeties next to Harrison Smith. I’m not worried about Zimmer finding another. No need to use a high pick on one. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted February 20, 2020 Author Share Posted February 20, 2020 16 hours ago, SemperFeist said: I’m not interested in taking a safety anywhere in the top 100. This defense has been extremely successful with two undrafted safeties next to Harrison Smith. I’m not worried about Zimmer finding another. No need to use a high pick on one. If he were there in the 2nd round though, I'd certainly take him, because he's likely going to be more than just "a safety", he's going to be one of those all-purpose type DBs, I imagine that he could also play nickel as well as in-the-box and will likely also be a special teams superstar out of the gate. He's been prepared by his dad his entire life to play at this level. His physical skills aren't going to be an advantage, but his mental skills will make him good out of the gate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boda Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 21 hours ago, SemperFeist said: I’m not interested in taking a safety anywhere in the top 100. This defense has been extremely successful with two undrafted safeties next to Harrison Smith. I’m not worried about Zimmer finding another. No need to use a high pick on one. Lets not kid ourselves both of those undrafted players had atleast a couple years to learn the ropes, you're not throwing an undrafted safety in there to start unless you think Harris is coming back. If thats the case I'd still rather draft the guy I think is going to be a star with Harrison starting to age. Personally I think Harrison has 3 more years of elite play left and I'd rather pay a player I perceive to be a future star & possibly take Harrison's spot who should be entering their prime over a player who will most likely be on the decline. Just my opinion though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RpMc Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 (edited) Like the addition of the the figure 8 drill around the hoops. Going to get a good look at ability to bend and ankle mobility. Edited February 21, 2020 by RpMc 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boda Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 (edited) Here's where I'm at. I think Lewis is the only player I'm really reaching for but every year a player drops for whatever reason so I don't want to hear anyone who claims to be an expert come in here and say no way so & so is there ... Blah Blah Blah 1.(25) Ross Blacklock (DT) TCU 2.(26) Prince Tega Wanogho (OT) Auburn 3.(25) Terrell Lewis (Edge) Alabama 4.(26) Tyler Johnson (WR) Minnesota 4.(35) Brandon Jones (S) Texas 6.(26) Collin Johnson (WR) Texas 7.(5) Alohi Gilman (S) Notre Dame 7.(25) JJ Taylor (RB) Arizona 7.(38) Saahdiq Charles (OL) LSU 7.(39) Carter Coughlin (LB) Minnesota Edit: This is under the assumption that we bring back atleast one of Mac or Waynes & sign OG Schreff. Ideally I really want us to add Damon Arnette but I think it'd take an earlier 3rd rounder or maybe might even have to trade back into the 2nd to land him Edited February 22, 2020 by Boda 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyperborean Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 20 hours ago, Boda said: Here's where I'm at. I think Lewis is the only player I'm really reaching for but every year a player drops for whatever reason so I don't want to hear anyone who claims to be an expert come in here and say no way so & so is there ... Blah Blah Blah 1.(25) Ross Blacklock (DT) TCU 2.(26) Prince Tega Wanogho (OT) Auburn 3.(25) Terrell Lewis (Edge) Alabama 4.(26) Tyler Johnson (WR) Minnesota 4.(35) Brandon Jones (S) Texas 6.(26) Collin Johnson (WR) Texas 7.(5) Alohi Gilman (S) Notre Dame 7.(25) JJ Taylor (RB) Arizona 7.(38) Saahdiq Charles (OL) LSU 7.(39) Carter Coughlin (LB) Minnesota Edit: This is under the assumption that we bring back atleast one of Mac or Waynes & sign OG Schreff. Ideally I really want us to add Damon Arnette but I think it'd take an earlier 3rd rounder or maybe might even have to trade back into the 2nd to land him That's pretty nice. I'm a little bummed knowing Zimmer's take on the tackling ability rather than coverage ability being the top trait he values. We need guys that can come up with turnovers. Let's imagine a near future in which Aaron Rodgers gets another talented target or two, and in which Chicago gets a QB who isn't a total potato. We need cover guys. This is a draft where it would likely be more desirable to have a couple twos rather than the first we currently have. I think this is where we test the trade value of Dalvin Cook. Could some team desperate for the now antiquated "bell cow" RB actually give up a first round pick for him? That would save us the headache and money he will bring as he seeks a second deal. I know, everyone likes Cook, but consider the offense we have now and who is running it. Kubiak's OC history is full of elevating low round RBs into stars (and in one case, a Hall of Famer). 1995 Terrell Davis (6th round pick) 1,117 yds 7 tds 1996 TD 1,538 yds 13 tds 1997 TD 1,750 yds 15 tds 1998 TD 2,008 yds 21 tds 1999 Olandis Gary (4th round pick) 1,159 yds 7 tds 2000 Mike Anderson (6th round pick) 1,487 15tds 2001 TD 701 yds 0 tds, MA 678 yds 4 tds 2002 Clinton Portis (2nd round pick) 1,508 yds 15 tds 2003 CP 1,591 yds 14 tds After his second consecutive 1,500+ yd season, Portis wanted to be paid like a star. So, knowing that any RB can deliver in Kubiak's system, they traded him to the Washington Redskins for CB Champ Bailey (already a 4-time pro bowler, he became a 3-time All Pro and added another 8 pro bowls and a Hall of Fame jacket in Denver) plus a 2nd round pick. Wouldn't you like to see a similar haul for Cook? I would. (I can't insist on a HOFer of course, but I can dream) 2004 Reuben Droughns (4rd by Lions) 1,240 yds 6 tds 2005 MA 1,014 yds 12 tds Now, bear in mind, except for the 2001 season in which Davis only played half the games because of injury, I'm only listing the leading rusher's stats and I'm not listing their receiving stats. The backups added sugar too btw, I just don't always list them. John Elway only played with Kubiak as OC from 1995 to 1998, so we can't assume that the next man up RB thing only works out if your QB is a HOFer either. Something to think about. If Kubiak gets his kind of RB (Mattison certainly seems like those old Denver guys in many ways) in later rounds, his offense still chugs along. I'm not anxious to get rid of Cook but you have to use what you've got when you've got it. Knowing his propensity for injuries and the lack of much "star power" at RB in this draft, when will Cook's value be higher than it is right now? I could see a Joshua Kelly or LaMical Perine contributing every bit as much as Cook, even if they don't have the "wow" highlight that Cook routinely delivers. If it gets us a starting Olineman, DT or CB (or combination of those) how can we pass that up? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcblack34 Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Hyperborean said: After his second consecutive 1,500+ yd season, Portis wanted to be paid like a star. So, knowing that any RB can deliver in Kubiak's system, they traded him to the Washington Redskins for CB Champ Bailey (already a 4-time pro bowler, he became a 3-time All Pro and added another 8 pro bowls and a Hall of Fame jacket in Denver) plus a 2nd round pick. Wouldn't you like to see a similar haul for Cook? I would. (I can't insist on a HOFer of course, but I can dream) And this is another prime example of why the Washington Football Team will always be a steaming cesspool of football excrement while Daniel Snyder owns the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 (edited) Cincinnati is going to talk themselves into drafting Justin Herbert because of Joe Burrow’s hand size lol Edited February 24, 2020 by SemperFeist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TENINCH Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 I just want a lineman. Offensive or defensive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 A player to keep an eye on for the Vikings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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