babababa Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 How about trading up for Kinlaw if he falls out of the top-10? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikestyle Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 18 minutes ago, babababa said: How about trading up for Kinlaw if he falls out of the top-10? I mean I'd like that, but it seems like 3 tech hasn't been a huge priority for this team in recent years. We drafted Sharrif years ago, and ever since we left the most we've put into the position was Sheldon Richardson on a 1 year deal. It would surprise me if we took a 3 tech in the first round at all, let alone trade up for one. I'd guess we go CB/OL/WR in the first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 3 hours ago, CriminalMind said: Mock for Vikings (via Simulator): 22 Javon Kinlaw , IDL South Carolina 25 Josh Jones, OT Houston 58 Jalen Reagor, WR TCU 89 Troy Pride Jr., CB Notre Dame 105 Alex Highsmith, EDGE Charlotte 132 Alton Robinson, EDGE Syracuse I would have liked to go CB in the 2nd round, but with Reagor available, I took the perceived value. Went with multiple EDGE (comp 3rd and 4th), who are not likely day 1 starters, but can be rotational rushers in their rookie years with good explosive traits (can't teach speed), while developing further into more senior roles in their 2nd year.. I honestly think that is potentially impossible that Kinlaw would fall that far. He will be gone at pick 13 or 14, then if not there at 16,17 and 18. Then if not there at 19 or 20. I see absolutely no way Kinlaw falls to the 22nd pick, especially considering multiple teams need DT talent and he is the 2nd best one in a draft class that is not crazy deep. Reagor I would like, Josh Jones not sure I am a fan of that unless Reiff will be cut or play guard and not sure either of those happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingVi Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 (edited) Whiskey mock with simulator. (edit, added highlights) post your own.... https://www.profootballnetwork.com/mockdraft/ 22. Javon Kinlaw DT South Carolina 25. Kristian Fulton CB LSU 58. K.J. Hamler WR Penn State 89. Noah Igbinoghene CB Auburn 105. Raekwon Davis DT Alabama 132. Logan Stenberg G Kentucky 155. Antonio Gandy-Golden WR Liberty 201. Tremayne Anchrum G Clemson 205. Jalen Elliott S Notre Dame 219. Kendall Coleman DE Syracuse 249. Michael Warren II RB Cincinnati 253. Bryce Huff OLB Memphis Edited March 23, 2020 by KingVi 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cconocool Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, KingVi said: Whiskey mock with simulator. 22. Javon Kinlaw DT South Carolina 25. Kristian Fulton CB LSU 58. K.J. Hamler WR Penn State 89. Noah Igbinoghene CB Auburn 105. Raekwon Davis DT Alabama 132. Logan Stenberg G Kentucky 155. Antonio Gandy-Golden WR Liberty 201. Tremayne Anchrum G Clemson 205. Jalen Elliott S Notre Dame 219. Kendall Coleman DE Syracuse 249. Michael Warren II RB Cincinnati 253. Bryce Huff OLB Memphis I could deal with that. But no OL in 2nd round? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingVi Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, cconocool said: I could deal with that. But no OL in 2nd round? Value wasn't there via simulator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CriminalMind Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 48 minutes ago, Ozzy said: I honestly think that is potentially impossible that Kinlaw would fall that far. He will be gone at pick 13 or 14, then if not there at 16,17 and 18. Then if not there at 19 or 20. I see absolutely no way Kinlaw falls to the 22nd pick, especially considering multiple teams need DT talent and he is the 2nd best one in a draft class that is not crazy deep. Reagor I would like, Josh Jones not sure I am a fan of that unless Reiff will be cut or play guard and not sure either of those happen. I'm just straight using what the simulation provides. Not fully getting into (x player is definitely not going to be available, as we always see players fall for no reason, or a reason). In regards to Josh Jones, while not my favorite OT in the 1st round, I'm not fully factoring Reiff's ability\inability to play LG. My selection is based on 1 year down the line, when Reiff is no longer on the squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 Just now, CriminalMind said: I'm just straight using what the simulation provides. Not fully getting into (x player is definitely not going to be available, as we always see players fall for no reason, or a reason). In regards to Josh Jones, while not my favorite OT in the 1st round, I'm not fully factoring Reiff's ability\inability to play LG. My selection is based on 1 year down the line, when Reiff is no longer on the squad. I see what you are saying no question, but would be odd what the simulation had those other teams getting. But the reality of the situations is the 49ers just traded away Buckner so they might want a DE/DT like Kinlaw. Then after that Tampa Bay might lose Suh so they would want a DE in that 3/4. Then Atlanta no question wants a DT potentially if not a LB. Dallas just lost a starting DT in free agency so they would love to get Kinlaw, Miami could use one in that new built defense, Raiders might be interesting in some depth at DT and Jacksonville no question would want one based on how so so Bryan is and losing Campbell and Dareus this off season. So I would love to get Kinlaw but I just see no way it happens. Jones long term sure makes sense but starting CB takes priority, right now we have tackles to play, at CB there is almost no one to start basically so we need a CB I feel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingVi Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 50 minutes ago, KingVi said: Whiskey mock with simulator. (edit, added highlights) post your own.... https://www.profootballnetwork.com/mockdraft/ 22. Javon Kinlaw DT South Carolina 25. Kristian Fulton CB LSU 58. K.J. Hamler WR Penn State 89. Noah Igbinoghene CB Auburn 105. Raekwon Davis DT Alabama 132. Logan Stenberg G Kentucky 155. Antonio Gandy-Golden WR Liberty 201. Tremayne Anchrum G Clemson 205. Jalen Elliott S Notre Dame 219. Kendall Coleman DE Syracuse 249. Michael Warren II RB Cincinnati 253. Bryce Huff OLB Memphis I did another....what do you think? 22. Tristan Wirfs OT Iowa 25. Javon Kinlaw DT South Carolina 58. Tee Higgins WR Clemson 89. Jalen Hurts QB Oklahoma 105. Donovan Peoples-Jones WR Michigan 132. Bryce Hall CB UVA 155. Netane Muti G Fresno State 201. Julian Blackmon CB Utah 205. Jalen Elliott S Notre Dame 219. Lamar Jackson CB Nebraska 249. Carter Coughlin OLB Minnesota 253. Derrek Tuszka DE North Dakota State 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Plissken Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 1 hour ago, KingVi said: Whiskey mock with simulator. (edit, added highlights) post your own.... https://www.profootballnetwork.com/mockdraft/ 22. Javon Kinlaw DT South Carolina 25. Kristian Fulton CB LSU 58. K.J. Hamler WR Penn State 89. Noah Igbinoghene CB Auburn 105. Raekwon Davis DT Alabama 132. Logan Stenberg G Kentucky 155. Antonio Gandy-Golden WR Liberty 201. Tremayne Anchrum G Clemson 205. Jalen Elliott S Notre Dame 219. Kendall Coleman DE Syracuse 249. Michael Warren II RB Cincinnati 253. Bryce Huff OLB Memphis I think you hit well on the first 7 picks. The only thing I would prefer is another OL in round 3 or 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshpit23 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 1 hour ago, KingVi said: I did another....what do you think? 22. Tristan Wirfs OT Iowa 25. Javon Kinlaw DT South Carolina 58. Tee Higgins WR Clemson 89. Jalen Hurts QB Oklahoma 105. Donovan Peoples-Jones WR Michigan 132. Bryce Hall CB UVA 155. Netane Muti G Fresno State 201. Julian Blackmon CB Utah 205. Jalen Elliott S Notre Dame 219. Lamar Jackson CB Nebraska 249. Carter Coughlin OLB Minnesota 253. Derrek Tuszka DE North Dakota State I’d love this, but sooo unrealistic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingVi Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 Run a mock, curious to how you'll do! Unrealistic and all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrplChilPill Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 2 hours ago, cconocool said: I could deal with that. But no OL in 2nd round? value/schmallue. If you don't draft OL, you wont' win any games. They don't have 5 decent starters. I don't get why people don't understand this simple idea..... If the best value is always a QB or WR, will you always pick a QB or WR? Of course not..... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingVi Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, PrplChilPill said: value/schmallue. If you don't draft OL, you wont' win any games. They don't have 5 decent starters. I don't get why people don't understand this simple idea..... If the best value is always a QB or WR, will you always pick a QB or WR? Of course not..... If you have time, try one, it would be fun to read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meixdaddy_10 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Ozzy said: I see what you are saying no question, but would be odd what the simulation had those other teams getting. But the reality of the situations is the 49ers just traded away Buckner so they might want a DE/DT like Kinlaw. Then after that Tampa Bay might lose Suh so they would want a DE in that 3/4. Then Atlanta no question wants a DT potentially if not a LB. Dallas just lost a starting DT in free agency so they would love to get Kinlaw, Miami could use one in that new built defense, Raiders might be interesting in some depth at DT and Jacksonville no question would want one based on how so so Bryan is and losing Campbell and Dareus this off season. So I would love to get Kinlaw but I just see no way it happens. Jones long term sure makes sense but starting CB takes priority, right now we have tackles to play, at CB there is almost no one to start basically so we need a CB I feel. I could easily see the 49ers trading down from 13. They have their other 1st Rd pick and then nothing until Rd 5, they likely want more ammo. If Kinlaw is still on the board then, we could give up a pick or 2 to jump Tampa for him. Maybe one of the top OTs or CBs is still on the board then and we jump up. Or maybe Jeudy, Ruggs, Lamb are on the board and we want to get that talent (not my preferred choice of position to jump up for). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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