Woz Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 38 minutes ago, Kiwibrown said: The problem with retiring numbers is if you hit a hot streak how many numbers do you retire? I like the idea of respected numbers, USC does it with 55 for linebackers. And that's why the NFL has encouraged teams not to do it. In the case of Washington, the only two numbers that are "restricted" that don't belong to Hall of Famers are Sean Taylor and Joe Theismann's. In the case of Theismann, he was the starting QB for over a decade and led the team to a Super Bowl win. In Taylor's case, it's out of memory for a player who many Washington fans believe could have been a transcendent player and gone to the Hall of Fame had he not been killed. In the case of respected numbers, the problem there is when does it roll over? In the case of college, where players have at most five years of eligibility (six with a medical hardship petition), realistically, a player is only going to hold the "respected" number for two, maybe three years. In the pros, a player could hold it for upwards of ten years, even if they don't necessary deserve it after awhile. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 Switching sports....... I'm a NYY baseball fan and they've got so many retired numbers we now have players wearing totally unconventional numbers: 99, 77, 0....... So - the practice has its pros and cons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 Just now, Leader said: Switching sports....... I'm a NYY baseball fan and they've got so many retired numbers we now have players wearing totally unconventional numbers: 99, 77, 0....... So - the practice has its pros and cons. However, in baseball, you don't have the problem that shortstops have to wear between 30-49, whereas in football players for given positional groups have to to have their numbers fall in given ranges. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjapirate Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 this seems weird all the way around. Like why the hell would theismanns number even be retired? And why would he let haskins use it if it was? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas5737 Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 6 hours ago, Woz said: However, in baseball, you don't have the problem that shortstops have to wear between 30-49, whereas in football players for given positional groups have to to have their numbers fall in given ranges. You also don't have 53 numbers assigned every year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TecmoSuperJoe Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 3 hours ago, ninjapirate said: this seems weird all the way around. Like why the hell would theismanns number even be retired? And why would he let haskins use it if it was? It wasn't retired. Even if it was, it would seem really insecure for someone to gatekeep a jersey number. Because really, who cares? Joe probably doesn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabbs4u Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 Can someone (OP, Mod, God himself) please change the title since the #7 Redskins Jersey, isn't retired. Thanks. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TXsteeler Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 There are some teams with an insane number of officially retired Jersey #s and unofficially protected #s. The Bears have 14 officially retired #s, the Giants have 12, the Chiefs have 10, Colts 8, Rams 7, there are a couple more with even more than some of those but I didn't feel like counting. The Steelers only have two retired Jersey #s, #70 Ernie Stautner and #75 Joe Greene (and his was retired in 2014), but they also a bunch of unofficially protected #s including #1 Gary Anderson, #12 Terry Bradshaw, #32 Franco Harris, #36 Jerome Bettis, #43 Troy Polamalu, #52 Mike Webster, #58 Jack Lambert, #59 Jack Ham, #63 Dermontti Dawson, and #86 Hines Ward. Ben will be added to that list, Shazier may be as well, AB would have been but probably won't be. I can only imagine how many actually protected #s teams like the Bears and Packers have, having had success throughout their history going back so far. You do have to wonder if teams should continue to keep so many #s blocked from the 50's and 60's and before. There are a lot of players on that list who weren't seen playing live by people in their 60's today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incarcerated_Scarface Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 21 hours ago, Geezy said: I don’t like players asking guys to unretire their number. It puts the former player in a tough spot, if they say no, he’s egotistical etc. if a number is retired, it is for good reason. Give respect, get a new number and make it your own. Or at least earn it. Haskins isn’t some can’t miss prospect, if he busts then what happens? Yeah but eventually teams will have to unretire a number if they have too many that are untouchable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostnote Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 On 5/2/2019 at 6:47 PM, Leader said: Switching sports....... I'm a NYY baseball fan and they've got so many retired numbers we now have players wearing totally unconventional numbers: 99, 77, 0....... So - the practice has its pros and cons. Right? 1- Billy Martin 2- Derek Jeter 3 - Babe Ruth 4 - Lou Gherig 5 - Joe DiMaggio 6 - Joe Torre 7 - Mickey Mantle 8 - Yogi Berra, Bill Dickey 9 - Roger Maris 10 - Phil Rizzuto 15 - Thurman Munson 16 - Whitey Ford 20 - Jorge Posada 23 - Don Mattingly 32. Elston Howard 37 - Casey Stengel 42 - Mariano Rivera (Prior to the Jackie Robinson retire) 44 - Reggie Jackson 46 - Andy Pettite 49 - Ron Guidry 51 - Bernie Williams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malik Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 22 hours ago, mike23md said: Right? 1- Billy Martin 2- Derek Jeter 3 - Babe Ruth 4 - Lou Gherig 5 - Joe DiMaggio 6 - Joe Torre 7 - Mickey Mantle 8 - Yogi Berra, Bill Dickey 9 - Roger Maris 10 - Phil Rizzuto 15 - Thurman Munson 16 - Whitey Ford 20 - Jorge Posada 23 - Don Mattingly 32. Elston Howard 37 - Casey Stengel 42 - Mariano Rivera (Prior to the Jackie Robinson retire) 44 - Reggie Jackson 46 - Andy Pettite 49 - Ron Guidry 51 - Bernie Williams All of them deserved it honestly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostnote Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 2 hours ago, Malik said: All of them deserved it honestly. Absolutely! No more single digits for any Yankee players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceinthehouse Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 (edited) Uh...There's only 1 true retired Jersey # that's retired & will never be worn & it's #33. The greatest football player that ever lived! "Slingin" Sammy Baugh 😎 That's the only # that's truly off limits. Edited May 7, 2019 by aceinthehouse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkronsWitness Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 (edited) On 5/2/2019 at 9:37 AM, brushmyhair said: If he needed Joe's permission, it probably was retired Not all true, at least for the Broncos I know that Julius Thomas called Rod Smith to wear #80, Phillip Lindsay called Terrell Davis to wear #30, Pacman Jones called Champ Bailey to wear #24 and Eric Decker called Ed McCaffrey to wear #87. Those numbers are not 'officially retired' but they under a very strict 'you better not unless you ask with good reason' type of policy. Edited May 8, 2019 by AkronsWitness 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabbs4u Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 (edited) Shame on you Mods for not changing the Title accordingly. 🙈🙊 Edited May 11, 2019 by Nabbs4u Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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