N4L Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 31 minutes ago, Forge said: Yes, I know. It's not really what I was referring to in and of itself. More or less the same of wide 9 we will be incorporating, and the fact that Greenlaw will have a good shot at the roster With the linebackers we have on our roster, he was always going to make it lol I posted that because Kyle said that WIL and SAM will be more interchangeable than they have been in the past. So greenlaw playing SAM isn't as strange as it would have sounded the day they drafted him. Idk why we are telegraphing the move to wide 9 so much. We shouldnt say anything about it until we show it on the field in week 1. I wouldn't even want us to do anything with it in the preseason, but I guess that's just me. It does help to get some reps in against other offenses though, so I get it. Do we have any joint practices lined up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_locniners Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 12 minutes ago, N4L said: With the linebackers we have on our roster, he was always going to make it lol I posted that because Kyle said that WIL and SAM will be more interchangeable than they have been in the past. So greenlaw playing SAM isn't as strange as it would have sounded the day they drafted him. Idk why we are telegraphing the move to wide 9 so much. We shouldnt say anything about it until we show it on the field in week 1. I wouldn't even want us to do anything with it in the preseason, but I guess that's just me. It does help to get some reps in against other offenses though, so I get it. Do we have any joint practices lined up? Joint practices with the Broncos I believe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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J-ALL-DAY Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 54 minutes ago, RaidersAreOne said: Not bad, will be back for mini-camp or at the very least training camp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
757-NINER Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 Not a fan of the Wide 9...we shall see 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravity Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 Do any successful NFL defenses use the wide 9 right now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justone2 Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 10 minutes ago, Gravity said: Do any successful NFL defenses use the wide 9 right now? Eagles 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48 1/2ers Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, Gravity said: Do any successful NFL defenses use the wide 9 right now? 17 hours ago, 757-NINER said: Not a fan of the Wide 9...we shall see To me Wide 9 simply means the DE is aligned outside the TE and the off ball LB likely has the inside leverage and run fill responsibility. How successful it is depends on the personnel. I can see Dee Ford and Bosa playing it well, I can see AA and Thomas not playing it well - but maybe they line up on the weak side of the oline where they'd still be in a 5 technique. I trust our off ball LB's to have more responsibility if thats what this leads to. it's really a wait and see who thrives scenario for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 2 hours ago, Justone2 said: Eagles This is the one that immediately came to mind for me. Schwartz has long been a proponent of it, and honestly, his defenses have always performed somewhat well. Detroit has used it for several years. Obviously, they haven't had a ton of success with it, but you could also say that's because they lack actual talent on the defensive side of the football. I mean, their defense has essentially been Ziggy and Slay and then a bunch of meh guys. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NcFinest9erFan Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Forge said: This is the one that immediately came to mind for me. Schwartz has long been a proponent of it, and honestly, his defenses have always performed somewhat well. Detroit has used it for several years. Obviously, they haven't had a ton of success with it, but you could also say that's because they lack actual talent on the defensive side of the football. I mean, their defense has essentially been Ziggy and Slay and then a bunch of meh guys. yeah the talent he has to work with in Philly def helps. I was curious one day about the wide nine and how it fared for Jim so I looked up the numbers. He was in Det 2009-2013 In this order(Total yards, rush yards, pass yards) 2009: 32nd/25th/32nd 2010: 21st/24th/16th 2011: 23rd/23rd/22nd 2012: 13th/16th/14th 2013: 16th/6th/23rd His lone year in Buffalo: 2014: 4th/11th/3rd - Jim had a lot of talent to work with in Buffalo. In philly: 2016: 13th/15th/13th 2017: 4th/1st/17th - Won SB 2018: 23rd/7th/30th - I know they have some ballers on that d line so being ranked top ten in run def is that because of the talent there or just because their secondary was flat out terrible/ they played a ton of off man which drives me crazy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudyZ Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 The question I have is, will we be going all-out with the wide 9, or we'll just incorporate the wide 9 to what we're already doing? I don't mind using it under certain circumstances, if it fits our talent and our opponent. But against other teams, it may not be the best, but then, we've ran the 4-3 under for two years, so it's not hard to switch back. I like versatility. I hope we use versatility, rather than pin our hopes to a single scheme for the whole year, just to re-evaluate it in january. Hopefully, our D is great and we'll only have to re-evaluate it in february. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
757-NINER Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 2 hours ago, rudyZ said: The question I have is, will we be going all-out with the wide 9, or we'll just incorporate the wide 9 to what we're already doing? I don't mind using it under certain circumstances, if it fits our talent and our opponent. But against other teams, it may not be the best, but then, we've ran the 4-3 under for two years, so it's not hard to switch back. I like versatility. I hope we use versatility, rather than pin our hopes to a single scheme for the whole year, just to re-evaluate it in january. Hopefully, our D is great and we'll only have to re-evaluate it in february. It seems with the hiring of Koureck(m/s), we've basically gone head first with the Wide 9. From the reports, this isn't a situational nor a personnel package thing. Its a full-time thing, which Im not sure is the best move but hey, what do I know. I was hoping we would incorporate it some, in the nickel, and then gradually implement it more as we found success with it. But it seems we've fully invested in the change and will hit the ground running.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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y2lamanaki Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 1 hour ago, 49erurtaza said: I think Thomas - playing in his correct position, and a year removed from the tragedy with his sister- is really going to surprise people this year. He'll never be #3 overall good, but he can be a good player on the inside, and especially on this line. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudyZ Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 16 hours ago, 49erurtaza said: Wax on. Wax off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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