CAPJ Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 1 hour ago, DaBoys said: He still led the league in rushing yards per game in 2017. He's led the league in rushing yards per game every year he has been in the league. He has also had the most attempts yet has never missed a game to injury. Totally overrated. Meanwhile Dak has like 4 CAREER 300 yard games. Dak has mediocre passing games because he has never played with a pro bowl receiver, pro bow tight end, or any pro bowl lineman. And dont forget, his RB is overrated. Just imagine if he had 1 weapon on offense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBoys Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 If they let Dak run and be a true duel threat then he could be good. But I have zero confidence in him being a pocket passer between the 20s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted June 1, 2019 Author Share Posted June 1, 2019 8 hours ago, DaBoys said: Elliott leads the league in rushing and Dak leads the league in sacking himself! 8 hours ago, plan9misfit said: Zeke has led the league in rushing two of the last three years and likely would have in 2017 as well had he not been suspended. But yeah, totally overrated. They are overrated. The running game doesnt matter. Never has. Look at the last 25 years of data if you think I am wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted June 1, 2019 Author Share Posted June 1, 2019 8 hours ago, plan9misfit said: Why don’t you post that scenario in NFL General and see how many (rather, how few) people agree with you. Go ahead. I’ll wait. While you’re at it, post the Tom Brady comparison as well just to show that Quincy is a better QB than the GOAT. Please do this. I’m begging you. Just because you dont 'read good' doesnt make that my stance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony7188 Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 (edited) 15 hours ago, CAPJ said: If Dak cant improve then neither should his contract. That's ludicrous man. He's definitely outplayed his contract and deserves to be making 20+ million. But for 30 million, I would seriously consider tagging him a 1-2 seasons then letting him walk. Edited June 1, 2019 by Tony7188 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBoys Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 5 hours ago, Matts4313 said: They are overrated. The running game doesnt matter. Lol You won't find 1 NFL coach that agrees with you. If the running game was obsolete then why do teams still run the ball? ....Ever? Oh, and according to Kellen Moore we will be running the ball a LOT more this year. So buckle up, buckle bunny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plan9misfit Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 6 hours ago, Matts4313 said: Just because you dont 'read good' doesnt make that my stance. Oh, but it is. You’ve gone on record to provide stats which “prove” that Quincy’s numbers are clearly superior to Tom Brady, thus making him better, said that “(T)he running game doesn’t matter”, that we have no talent at any skill position, that our o-line is atrocious, that Quincy is an accurate passer, that he doesn’t sack himself, and that over 66% of his problems belong to someone else. Again, you have ZERO credibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted June 1, 2019 Author Share Posted June 1, 2019 Just now, plan9misfit said: Oh, but it is. You’ve gone on record to provide stats which “prove” that Quincy’s numbers are clearly superior to Tom Brady, thus making him better, said that “(T)he running game doesn’t matter”, that we have no talent at any skill position, that our o-line is atrocious, that Quincy is an accurate passer, that he doesn’t sack himself, and that over 66% of his problems belong to someone else. Again, you have ZERO credibility. If you are going to keep saying stupid things I have no option but assume youve banged your head real hard and became a stupid person. Our OL and WRs did suck, by all objecive measures. And the run game has minimal impact on winning. Prove me wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plan9misfit Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: If you are going to keep saying stupid things I have no option but assume youve banged your head real hard and became a stupid person. Our OL and WRs did suck, by all objecive measures. And the run game has minimal impact on winning. Prove me wrong. Prove to me how Tom Brady had better weapons. He had a WR who was suspended for 4 games for PEDs, no RB, a broken TE, a mediocre o-line, and no other skill position players to speak of, but managed to win the Super Bowl, anyway. And yet, you insist that our personnel was significantly inferior to that. And you still think that our running game had a minimal impact on winning, but claim that I’m the one who bumped my head. Sure, let’s go with that. Edited June 1, 2019 by plan9misfit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Matts4313 said: And the run game has minimal impact on winning. Prove me wrong. Did you watch the game against the Rams? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagles suck Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, plan9misfit said: Prove to me how Tom Brady had better weapons. He had a WR who was suspended for 4 games for PEDs, no RB, a broken TE, a mediocre o-line, and no other skill position players to speak of, but managed to win the Super Bowl, anyway. And yet, you insist that our personnel was significantly inferior to that. And you still think that our running game had a minimal impact on winning, but claim that I’m the one who bumped my head. Sure, let’s go with that. Brady has the ultimate weapon in Belichick. He don't need anything else. In every playoff game Prescott has played in he has played well enough to win. Its not his fault that the Defense, run game and play calling is not affective in playoff games. Edited June 1, 2019 by eagles suck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plan9misfit Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 10 minutes ago, eagles suck said: Brady has the ultimate weapon in Belichick. He don't need anything else. In every playoff game Prescott has played in he has played well enough to win. Its not his fault that the Defense, run game and play calling is not affective in playoff games. And Belichick has the ultimate QB in Brady. It’s not as if the team is hamstrung at the position. Brady has proven that he can put the entire team on his back and lead them to victories. He does it time and time again. Quincy? He can’t even complete passes to wide open WRs from 6 yards away. He’s too busy either throwing them over their heads or skipping them in the dirt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweetFancyMoses Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 4 hours ago, Jim said: Did you watch the game against the Rams? Or the colts game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAPJ Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 7 hours ago, Tony7188 said: That's ludicrous man. He's definitely outplayed his contract and deserves to be making 20+ million. But for 30 million, I would seriously consider tagging him a 1-2 seasons then letting him walk. I was being sarcastic more than anything. I'm ok with paying Dak $20 million. I'm ok with tagging him at the end of the year. I believe if we pay him $30 million+, were not going to be able to keep our D together. Me personally, there are only a handful of QBs I'd pay that much because once you do, they have to overcome the shortfalls of the team. I dont think Dak is that player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plan9misfit Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, CAPJ said: I was being sarcastic more than anything. I'm ok with paying Dak $20 million. I'm ok with tagging him at the end of the year. I believe if we pay him $30 million+, were not going to be able to keep our D together. Me personally, there are only a handful of QBs I'd pay that much because once you do, they have to overcome the shortfalls of the team. I dont think Dak is that player. Because he’s not that player. You know who is? Tom Brady. And, do you know which QB never broke the bank on his contract to ensure that other players could be retained (as a means of increasing the odds to win championships)? Tom Brady. The rest? Well, they either never won a championship or never won another one after signing those albatross deals. Edited June 2, 2019 by plan9misfit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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