footbull3196 Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 31 minutes ago, Ajayii said: Hmm... Any data to support your claim of him leaving and dying by press? He allowed the 3rd lowest rate of catches at 50.9%, yet allowed the 2nd worst yards per catch at 16.2. He’s a borderline top 10 cornerback and got the biggest contract for a cornerback in nfl history (yes, I know highest paid players at each position change every offseason, but he’s clearly not worth $15 million a year) I know you’re gonna defend your players which is fine, but if everyone else is telling you it’s a bad deal, then it’s probably a bad deal lol. If you need more data than that then it seems like you’re just demanding unnecessary proof for something you refuse to believe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoUpTwoDown Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Howard is really good. Contract should age well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBLIII Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 They locked him up in the prime of his career and Howard is really the only DB on that secondary with good coverage skills. It might be an overpay but it was necessary. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvert28 Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Jesus if Byron keeps up his current pace I can't imagine what his agent will ask for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingsrule Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 19 minutes ago, Ragnarok said: Might as well. They don't have anyone else worth re-signing soon except maybe Tunsil and Godchaux(and not to this level) and he is a cornerstone-type player. Plus, it'll push the CB market up for other teams. Trae Waynes is going to get paid, that's for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheesehawk Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Xavien Howard gets no shine because he’s on the Fins but he is really good. This contract will look real nice in a few years when a lot of these young top tier CBs get paid. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajayii Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 29 minutes ago, FinSting said: Great player but dang he misses a lot of games with nagging knee injuries. Kinda feeling thumbs down for a rebuilding team to do a gigantor contract. Unless someone else signed a slot deal, Fins now have the NFL's highest-paid slot corner (Bobby McCain), highest-paid CB (Xavien Howard) and 4th-highest paid Safety (Reshad Jones). And yet the pass defense probably scares...no one. Thumbs down? If Rosen is in fact the QB going forward, this is probably the best move made in the offseason. We will only have big money tied to X and Tunsil for the next 2-3 years. We were the 12th in pass defense with no pass-rush and a crap DC last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnarok Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, vikingsrule said: Trae Waynes is going to get paid, that's for sure. He finally almost looked like a functional CB last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footbull3196 Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 13 minutes ago, vikingsrule said: Trae Waynes is going to get paid, that's for sure. I’m kind of cringing about that tbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajayii Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 35 minutes ago, footbull3196 said: He allowed the 3rd lowest rate of catches at 50.9%, yet allowed the 2nd worst yards per catch at 16.2. He’s a borderline top 10 cornerback and got the biggest contract for a cornerback in nfl history (yes, I know highest paid players at each position change every offseason, but he’s clearly not worth $15 million a year) I know you’re gonna defend your players which is fine, but if everyone else is telling you it’s a bad deal, then it’s probably a bad deal lol. If you need more data than that then it seems like you’re just demanding unnecessary proof for something you refuse to believe No one else is saying it's a bad deal besides casual fans and they're wrong all of the time. Have you heard any film-junkies or analyts, you know people who actually know what they're talking about, say it's a bad deal? That info also does not prove your theory that he lives and dies by press. Look at what he did to Amari, T.Y, and Hopkins(who pushed off multiple times) last year. It actually proves why he deserves the contract lol. YPC is a skewed stat that can be related to blown coverages, missed assignments, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Ramster Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 37 minutes ago, Calvert28 said: Jesus if Byron keeps up his current pace I can't imagine what his agent will ask for. Chill... He’s not even gonna get paid imo. But this speaks more of what jalens contract is going to look. Jesus I can see it already the first CB to make 25 mil a year sheeeesh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvert28 Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, El ramster said: Chill... He’s not even gonna get paid imo. But this speaks more of what jalens contract is going to look. Jesus I can see it already the first CB to make 25 mil a year sheeeesh. Bruh. He's getting paid, lets not fool ourselves. He may not get paid by us. But he's getting paid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Ramster Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 4 minutes ago, Calvert28 said: Bruh. He's getting paid, lets not fool ourselves. He may not get paid by us. But he's getting paid. This is his last year deal right? If so I’ll like to see the numbers my self. I just doubt he repeats his performance imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footbull3196 Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 47 minutes ago, Ajayii said: No one else is saying it's a bad deal besides casual fans and they're wrong all of the time. Have you heard any film-junkies or analyts, you know people who actually know what they're talking about, say it's a bad deal? That info also does not prove your theory that he lives and dies by press. Look at what he did to Amari, T.Y, and Hopkins(who pushed off multiple times) last year. It actually proves why he deserves the contract lol. YPC is a skewed stat that can be related to blown coverages, missed assignments, etc. Lol, there’s plenty of people who are calling it an overpay that aren’t just casual fans. YPC may be a skewed stat in itself, but in conjunction with catch rate it tells a lot about a player. In this instance, it shows that if Howard isn’t able to jam the receiver off the line of scrimmage, more than likely he gets burned. You know what else is a skewed stat? Interceptions Out of the 3 guys you listed, the only guy that Howard was actually successful against was Cooper (2 catches for 17 yards). Hilton had 7 catches for 125 yards and a TD, while Hopkins had 6 catches for 82 yards and 2 TDs (and this doesn’t include the ridiculous between the legs catch that was called back for ticky tacky offensive pass interference) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDotNova Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Jalen Ramsey is going to get paid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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