AFlaccoSeagulls Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 I have to believe we're going to add a starting DE to the roster. We CANNOT go into the season relying on Wormley and Henry as our DE's with little to no depth there. We might actually have the worst DE group in the NFL at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.10.E Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 33 minutes ago, AFlaccoSeagulls said: I have to believe we're going to add a starting DE to the roster. We CANNOT go into the season relying on Wormley and Henry as our DE's with little to no depth there. We might actually have the worst DE group in the NFL at this point. Our DEs are like most team's DEs though. I think they can be a fine replacement for Urban. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Just now, M.10.E said: Our DEs are like most team's DEs though. I think they can be a fine replacement for Urban. Urban, who wasn't even a really good player in his own right. Our DE's right now are really bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.10.E Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 1 hour ago, AFlaccoSeagulls said: Urban, who wasn't even a really good player in his own right. Our DE's right now are really bad. I'd consider our OLBs to more of a "traditional" DE than the guys you listed tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 1 minute ago, M.10.E said: I'd consider our OLBs to more of a "traditional" DE than the guys you listed tbh. Our DE's in a 3-4 system. They're not good. Wormley / Henry / Seiler / Ricard is probably the worst unit in the NFL and it's not close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Reed Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 2 hours ago, AFlaccoSeagulls said: Our DE's in a 3-4 system. They're not good. Wormley / Henry / Seiler / Ricard is probably the worst unit in the NFL and it's not close. wormley is solid at worst and henry flashed more than a lot of the players you tout like Bowser before his injury last year...i think you haven't looked around at most NFL rosters if you think they're by far the worst... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, Ray Reed said: wormley is solid at worst and henry flashed more than a lot of the players you tout like Bowser before his injury last year...i think you haven't looked around at most NFL rosters if you think they're by far the worst... Which rosters do you think have worse 3-4 DE's than us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coordinator0 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 36 minutes ago, AFlaccoSeagulls said: Which rosters do you think have worse 3-4 DE's than us? Williams and Pierce start, then there's like Henry or probably Wormley on the other side. Seiler, Mack, and Willis being the depth that doesn't see any real snaps unless an injury occurs. And even then those guys are at least talents that we actually want to see what they can do on the field. The Ravens are fine at all spots along the DL, you're overthinking it by a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, coordinator0 said: Williams and Pierce start, then there's like Henry or probably Wormley on the other side. Seiler, Mack, and Willis being the depth that doesn't see any real snaps unless an injury occurs. And even then those guys are at least talents that we actually want to see what they can do on the field. The Ravens are fine at all spots along the DL, you're overthinking it by a lot. Williams and Pierce are both NT's. Beyond them, the rest are garbage or completely unproven. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coordinator0 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, AFlaccoSeagulls said: Williams and Pierce are both NT's. Beyond them, the rest are garbage or completely unproven. Yet they still both start. That's 2 out of 3 spots if you're counting. Henry was not garbage in the season prior to the one he lost by getting hurt. Wormley is a fine rotational piece. There isn't a "garbage" player anywhere along the DL. The team is good here, I don't know what you want. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 17 minutes ago, coordinator0 said: Yet they still both start. That's 2 out of 3 spots if you're counting. Henry was not garbage in the season prior to the one he lost by getting hurt. Wormley is a fine rotational piece. There isn't a "garbage" player anywhere along the DL. The team is good here, I don't know what you want. My point is that we're not actually good here. At all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngusMcFife Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 Its silly to compare Raven DEs to the rest of the league because most other teams play 4-3 and play 2 DEs at the same time. Wormley was good in his role last year, and going into his 3rd year I don't see why he wouldn't keep improving. So our starting DE is fine. Then we got Henry, Sieler, and Willis competing for snaps. They are unproven but talented, and I trust the Ravens staff to get these guys ready to play. For the Ravens, DL is not like WR, the coaches usually will maximize the talents of DL players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aDandyGuyInSpace Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 I dont understand how you can say Henry sucks when you see his stats in limited time. Imagine if he gets to start all 16 and stays healthy, he had 3 sacks in his only semi healthy season. He's not a world beater pash rusher but to say we have the worst defensive end group is saying something wrong about our coaches. Wink made the same group look studly compared to Pees, you have to imagine another full offseason to gel with the system will only prove more effective and we should see our boys step up. Besides what another poster said, we usually only have one de on the field, its not wrong to stack our depth chart against a 4 3 team and say they have a better pool of talent at a position which requires more starting caliber talent. WR is another story though my friends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamKid Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 Welcome to the forum @aDandyGuyInSpace. 3 hours ago, aDandyGuyInSpace said: I dont understand how you can say AFS has a unique approach to player analysis. You'll get used to it, kind of. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aDandyGuyInSpace Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 15 hours ago, DreamKid said: Welcome to the forum @aDandyGuyInSpace. AFS has a unique approach to player analysis. You'll get used to it, kind of. Im happy to be here, Im sure I'l get used to the characters you all have. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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