turtle28 Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 On 5/13/2019 at 2:51 PM, Jeezy Fanatic said: Could I get Dwayne Haskins stat predictions for the 11-5 season? Honestly, IMO they’re not that great bc I think the running game with carry this O no matter what. In 2004 Ben Rothlisberger’s stays were 2600 yds, 17 yds & 11 int after he replaced Tommy Maddox 1/2 way through that season. So, something like 20 TDs & under 15 TDs in 3/4 of a season of on his rookie season played seems reasonable for Haskins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 (edited) We haven’t won 11 games or more since we last won the Super Bowl in 91-92 and I think in the 80s we won 11 plus games only twice in 82 & then 83. So, it’s not something this franchise does or has done often. I’ll put everything on this current squad with a rookie leading it or an avg journeyman QB leading it and at best an avg WR core and questions all over the roster NOT winning double digit games! Edited May 14, 2019 by turtle28 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdog44 Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 2 hours ago, turtle28 said: We haven’t won 11 games or more since we last won the Super Bowl in 91-92 and I think in the 80s we won 11 plus games only twice in 82 & then 83. So, it’s not something this franchise does or has done often. I’ll put everything on this current squad with a rookie leading it or an avg journeyman QB leading it and at best an avg WR core and questions all over the roster NOT winning double digit games! 12-4 in ‘86. Damn meadowlands wind cost us that NFC title game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceinthehouse Posted May 15, 2019 Author Share Posted May 15, 2019 Haskins has about a 5:1 td/int ratio in college. Presuming he starts week 1, which I think he will. Given that the NFL is tougher. I'll say 30 TD's & 10 INT's. A 3:1 ratio. With our running game playing a huge role for us. I'll say 3,750 yards passing That's for 16 games That's my prediction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, aceinthehouse said: Haskins has about a 5:1 td/int ratio in college. Presuming he starts week 1, which I think he will. Given that the NFL is tougher. I'll say 30 TD's & 10 INT's. A 3:1 ratio. With our running game playing a huge role for us. I'll say 3,750 yards passing That's for 16 games That's my prediction. Ace this isn't college. The greatest QBs of all time like Peyton and others have thrown nearly as much or more ints than TDs when they were rookies. If Haskins starts all or most of the year expect growing pains. I'm not saying he's going to be absolutely awful but he’ll have his ups and downs. 30 Tds? Sonny only threw 30 or over tds twice in 18 seasons. Theismann and Cousins never threw for 30 tds in a Redskins uniform, neither did Rypien or Brad Johnson. Kirk just did last year for the first time in his career and he had one of the best pair of WRs in the NFL. Realistically as a rookie, we shouldn't expect Haskins to throw over 25 tds - and that's if he starts every game - also you have to factor in that no matter who is our starting QB that they're going to be handing it off just as much as they pass it to Peterson, Guice and Thompson. Edited May 15, 2019 by turtle28 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceinthehouse Posted May 15, 2019 Author Share Posted May 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, turtle28 said: Ace this isn't college. The greatest QBs of all time like Peyton and others have thrown nearly as much or more ints than TDs when they were rookies. If Haskins starts all or most of the year expect growing pains. I'm not saying he's going to be absolutely awful but he’ll have his ups and downs. 30 Tds? Sonny only threw 30 or over tds twice in 18 seasons. Theismann and Cousins never threw for 30 tds in a season, neither did Rypien or Brad Johnson. Kirk just did last year for the first time in his career and he had one of the best pair of WRs in the NFL. Realistically as a rookie, we shouldn't expect Haskins to throw over 25 tds - and that's if he starts every game - also you have to factor in that no matter who is our starting QB that they're going to be handing it off just as much as they pass it to Peterson, Guice and Thompson. 30 TD's is not that high a number, turtle. 1.875 TD's a game over a 16 game schedule. Less than 2 TD's every game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 (edited) 25 minutes ago, aceinthehouse said: 30 TD's is not that high a number, turtle. 1.875 TD's a game over a 16 game schedule. Less than 2 TD's every game. What? Yes it is, especially for an offense w/o an elite wide receiver which will be very balanced and most likely run first this year bc they have Peterson, Guice & Thompson. I just showed you that since the 60’s the only Qb to throw for 30 tds was Jergensen. That's it! One guy in 55 years! It's unrealistic to think Haskins will do it as a rookie, entirely unrealistic. Edited May 15, 2019 by turtle28 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceinthehouse Posted May 15, 2019 Author Share Posted May 15, 2019 22 minutes ago, turtle28 said: What? Yes it is, especially for an offense w/o an elite wide receiver which will be very balanced and most likely run first this year bc they have Peterson, Guice & Thompson. I just showed you that since the 60’s the only Qb to throw for 30 tds was Jergensen. That's it! One guy in 55 years! It's unrealistic to think Haskins will do it as a rookie, entirely unrealistic. We have Chris Thompson, Peterson & Guice who all can tally receiving TD's in the short passing game for RB's. Richardson & McLaurin who provide deep threat 1 hitter TD's over the top on defenses. We have Doctson & Harmon who provide red zone td capabilities as well. Jordan Reed & Vernon Davis provide a little bit of both. I think Haskins is more than capable of throwing 30 TD's in this manner. In fact, if he plays 16 games? I'm going to guarantee it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, aceinthehouse said: We have Chris Thompson, Peterson & Guice who all can tally receiving TD's in the short passing game for RB's. Richardson & McLaurin who provide deep threat 1 hitter TD's over the top on defenses. We have Doctson & Harmon who provide red zone td capabilities as well. Jordan Reed & Vernon Davis provide a little bit of both. I think Haskins is more than capable of throwing 30 TD's in this manner. In fact, if he plays 16 games? I'm going to guarantee it! Wow, ok man. You do you, I'm going to predict 20. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceinthehouse Posted May 15, 2019 Author Share Posted May 15, 2019 35 minutes ago, turtle28 said: Wow, ok man. You do you, I'm going to predict 20. Sounds good. I hope he's ready week 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeT14 Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 Okay, so far we have 11-5 with over 30 TDs for Haskins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slateman Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 I mean, he's only going to play in like one game, because Case Keenum is going to regain his title as stud QB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THESKINSFAN21 Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 On 5/14/2019 at 8:33 PM, aceinthehouse said: Haskins has about a 5:1 td/int ratio in college. Presuming he starts week 1, which I think he will. Given that the NFL is tougher. I'll say 30 TD's & 10 INT's. A 3:1 ratio. With our running game playing a huge role for us. I'll say 3,750 yards passing That's for 16 games That's my prediction. So he's going to break the rookie passing TD mark by 2 TDs?🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THESKINSFAN21 Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 (edited) On 5/15/2019 at 1:34 AM, aceinthehouse said: 30 TD's is not that high a number, turtle. 1.875 TD's a game over a 16 game schedule. Less than 2 TD's every Edited May 16, 2019 by THESKINSFAN21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THESKINSFAN21 Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 (edited) Is there not an option to delete posts? Edited May 16, 2019 by THESKINSFAN21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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