NJC33 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 I wonder if Lee was that much of a distraction in the locker room, only thing that makes sense, but aside from his suspension/concert nonsense, I didn't see it. Think were going to end up hating this move. Really liked what I saw from him last year in coverage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickyt31 Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 18 hours ago, NJC33 said: I wonder if Lee was that much of a distraction in the locker room, only thing that makes sense, but aside from his suspension/concert nonsense, I didn't see it. Think were going to end up hating this move. Really liked what I saw from him last year in coverage. He had his issues but I did see improvement from him every year. At the same time, but I think moving him now had to be done. Former 1st round pick who just got replaced by the highest paid ILB in the league. To prevent anything toxic from potentially developing, I think it was smart to dump him now. I do think the Chiefs got a steal, but Lee wasn't going to get the chance to improve his trade value. Then he will walk for nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doumeyer Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, rickyt31 said: He had his issues but I did see improvement from him every year. At the same time, but I think moving him now had to be done. Former 1st round pick who just got replaced by the highest paid ILB in the league. To prevent anything toxic from potentially developing, I think it was smart to dump him now. I do think the Chiefs got a steal, but Lee wasn't going to get the chance to improve his trade value. Then he will walk for nothing. Getting a sixth round pick for Lee was just like getting nothing, but you are right he had to go for several reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickyt31 Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 Just now, doumeyer said: Getting a sixth round pick for Lee was just like getting nothing, but you are right he had to go for several reasons. Yeah, it feels like that until we are in the 2020 draft hoping we use that additional pick to trade up with. lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich51 Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 For what it’s worth, Lee was 24th rated LB at PFF with a 72.4. Mosely was 22nd with a 73.6 grade. According to PFF Mosely was good in run defense and poor against the pass. Lee was the opposite. Williamson at 18 was a slightly better version of Mosely. Cashman, PFF’s 4th highest grade college LB, was good at both. . By drafting Cashman, i’m assuming the goal was to dump Lee. Getting a 5th instead of a 6th wasn’t that big a deal.since both picks would be long shots to be anything more than special team players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsfan4life51 Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 Can't believe that this is a huge complaint lol. Can't wait to Cashman to excel at ST and maybe get in the lineup once Williamson is gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrade Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 Reuben Foster went down with an apparent serious knee injury for Washington. I wonder if we could have received more that a 6th for Lee from Washington. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsandI Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 1 hour ago, xrade said: Reuben Foster went down with an apparent serious knee injury for Washington. I wonder if we could have received more that a 6th for Lee from Washington. Until Lee was traded Chiefs were only team that interested to acquire him. I don't know if Redskins and Chiefs would be in a fierce competition for Lee's service but Redskins have rookie Cole Holcomb whom I wouldn't have a problem to start over Lee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandwhich2 Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 Gase said decision to trade Lee was made before he was hired. Wonder if it's the off the field stuff that worried the Jets and they just wanted to move on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFan15 Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 4 hours ago, Sandwhich2 said: Gase said decision to trade Lee was made before he was hired. Wonder if it's the off the field stuff that worried the Jets and they just wanted to move on. That is an interesting statement. So that seems to indicate it came from ownership as he was traded after Macc was fired and supposedly for less than what Macc was willing to take. Gase's statements are very contradictory to his actions when it comes to stuff like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingOfNewYork Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 1 hour ago, JetsFan15 said: That is an interesting statement. So that seems to indicate it came from ownership as he was traded after Macc was fired and supposedly for less than what Macc was willing to take. Gase's statements are very contradictory to his actions when it comes to stuff like this. Lol what? They had been talking to the Chiefs since before Gase was hired. He made the decision to get it done now. What exactly did he contradict? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich51 Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 4 hours ago, KingOfTheDot said: Lol what? They had been talking to the Chiefs since before Gase was hired. He made the decision to get it done now. What exactly did he contradict? I agree. As soon as we spent mega millions on Mosely, it was obvious that Lee was gone. We weren’t paying Mosely and Williamson as part time players and both were on the field for about 92% of their team snaps. Drafting Cashman sealed the deal as he will probably be happy with getting the few snaps that are left over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFan15 Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 20 hours ago, KingOfTheDot said: Lol what? They had been talking to the Chiefs since before Gase was hired. He made the decision to get it done now. What exactly did he contradict? Gase has stated he wants to coach only and there was no power struggle. Decision to trade Lee was prior to his hiring seems to indicate we were shopping Lee for while. Looks like Macc was waiting it out to get a little better offer than a 6th from KC. Macc gets fired. Gase makes trade literately within hours. Not exactly the actions of a guy who does not want GM / roster control like he says. That is the contradiction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingOfNewYork Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 36 minutes ago, JetsFan15 said: Gase has stated he wants to coach only and there was no power struggle. Decision to trade Lee was prior to his hiring seems to indicate we were shopping Lee for while. Looks like Macc was waiting it out to get a little better offer than a 6th from KC. Macc gets fired. Gase makes trade literately within hours. Not exactly the actions of a guy who does not want GM / roster control like he says. That is the contradiction. He’s the GM, he can make that call. It’s not a contradiction if his role is to be both coach and GM right now. If Macc was still here and Gase did it then it would contradict what he said but CJ put him in charge and he made a move to get a player we weren’t keeping out of here. Maybe you don’t know what contradicting is that’s all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFan15 Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 9 minutes ago, KingOfTheDot said: He’s the GM, he can make that call. It’s not a contradiction if his role is to be both coach and GM right now. If Macc was still here and Gase did it then it would contradict what he said but CJ put him in charge and he made a move to get a player we weren’t keeping out of here. Maybe you don’t know what contradicting is that’s all. LOL Interim GM. If he was not a control freak nor wanted control there would have been no issue waiting to trade Lee when the real GM is in place. Simply a control move for a guy who says this was not about control. That is what a contradiction is as it seems you don't understand that yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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