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So, the 2019 Chiefs...

How will they do this season?  

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  1. 1. The 2019 Chiefs...

    • They consolidate - either the first or second seed in the AFC, not dropping off
      33
    • They drop off slightly - win at least 2 fewer games than last season
      83
    • They drop off markedly - miss playoffs, and end up with a record around .500 or below
      15


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1 hour ago, freak_of_nature said:

Hill or no Hill, they added some nice pieces on defense, though.

Yeah, Hill or no Hill, that offense is surefire top 5 and probably the best bet to be best of the league again.

 

The defense is a lot harder to project because it is all so new and different but  I feel confident saying at worst it will be a top 20 defense and it could also be real close to top 10.

All in all, a powerhouse.

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2 hours ago, SBLIII said:

I don't think the win total would change for NE if you swap Miami with LAC however the Patriots could end up a wild card team one of those years where LAC wins 11-12 games and the tie breaker.

The Patriots win total wouldn’t change. They could still split with the Chargers (like they did with Miami), but the Chargers would pick up more wins than Miami, making the competition for the division title tougher

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7 hours ago, Nightime said:

The Patriots win total wouldn’t change. They could still split with the Chargers (like they did with Miami), but the Chargers would pick up more wins than Miami, making the competition for the division title tougher

If replacing Dolphins with Chargers, there would not be much difference, as Dolphins record against Pats is not that bad.

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20 hours ago, Buckweath said:

That's a good question. I hate how the Pats have such an easy division and schedule and the obvious huge home field advantage when playing at Gillette Stadium. Otherwise, I would feel better about the Chiefs going all the way than any team in the league.

The Patriots did win at Arrowhead Stadium...

by the way, did you know that the Patriots have only swept the AFC East once ever?

They went 11-5 last season, and ALL of their losses were to teams that MISSED the playoffs. They lost to Miami; Jacksonville; Pittsburgh; Tennessee; and Detroit. 

Conversely, the Patriots scored regular season wins against playoff participants Chicago; Kansas City; Indianapolis; and Houston. In fairness, three of these four games were at home, but these were still playoff teams nonetheless. 

Also, maybe someone else can get the numbers for me, but I do believe that since 2002, the Patriots’ winning percentage against the AFC East is only slightly higher than than their winning percentage vs. the rest of the NFL. 

Don’t also forget that the Patriots have played a first place schedule 16 of the last 18 years. The other three AFC division winners plus an NFC first place finisher. 4 playoff teams every season. 

When they get home field advantage, they earn it. Just like the Chefs did last year. 

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1 hour ago, rfournier103 said:

The Patriots did win at Arrowhead Stadium...

by the way, did you know that the Patriots have only swept the AFC East once ever?

They went 11-5 last season, and ALL of their losses were to teams that MISSED the playoffs. They lost to Miami; Jacksonville; Pittsburgh; Tennessee; and Detroit. 

Conversely, the Patriots scored regular season wins against playoff participants Chicago; Kansas City; Indianapolis; and Houston. In fairness, these were all at home, but these were still playoff teams nonetheless. 

Also, maybe someone else can get the numbers for me, but I do believe that since 2002, the Patriots’ winning percentage against the AFC East is only slightly higher than than their winning percentage vs. the rest of the NFL. 

Don’t also forget that the Patriots have played a first place schedule 16 of the last 18 years. The other three AFC division winners plus an NFC first place finisher. 5 playoff teams every season. 

When they get home field advantage, they earn it. Just like the Chefs did last year. 

This. The narrative that the Pats success is because of their division is so beat to death. (And wrong)

Like almost no team in the NFL has a decent record against the Pats. Even the other good AFC teams like the Steelers, Ravens and Colts have really terrible records against Brady/Belichick.

I think the 2/5 Pats losses had a lot to do with the head coaches of the Lions and Titans being Belichick disciples. Not saying I think either is going to be a good NFL head coach, but they certainly are familiar with Belichick and that's a big advantage.

Chicago game was also on the road btw.

 

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4 hours ago, Bolts223 said:

This. The narrative that the Pats success is because of their division is so beat to death. (And wrong)

Like almost no team in the NFL has a decent record against the Pats. Even the other good AFC teams like the Steelers, Ravens and Colts have really terrible records against Brady/Belichick.

I think the 2/5 Pats losses had a lot to do with the head coaches of the Lions and Titans being Belichick disciples. Not saying I think either is going to be a good NFL head coach, but they certainly are familiar with Belichick and that's a big advantage.

Chicago game was also on the road btw.

 

Good post. 

Fixed the Chicago thing. Thank you for calling my attention to that. Also, three AFC Division winners plus one NFC Division winner equals four, not five. I posted sleepy.

Even so, for 16 of the past 20 years, the Patriots will play ONE QUARTER of their games against division winners from the previous season. The Patriots only play six games vs. the AFC East. 

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You guys are looking at history and all that stuff, I'm just looking at their schedule next year and comparing it to let's say the Chargers' and Chiefs' and it just seems an easier path to the AFC title. I don't really care that the Pats have had trouble with the Dolphins or another team in their division in the past, at the end of the day these are teams who are inferior to the Chargers as an opponent for the Chiefs for example.

I have read that based on opponents win percentage last year, the Patriots have the 2nd easiest schedule next year.

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1 hour ago, Buckweath said:

I have read that based on opponents win percentage last year, the Patriots have the 2nd easiest schedule next year.

Easy or not, when you have an time-control offense that can score 440 points in 16 games, your team will very likely get first round bye.

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