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Most Overrated QB's of all Time


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Most Overrated QB  

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  1. 1. Most Overrated QB

    • Terry Bradshaw
      21
    • Troy Aikman
      27
    • Aaron Rodgers
      21
    • Joe Namath
      44
    • John Elway
      28
    • Dan Marino
      4
    • Jim Kelly
      2
    • Boomer Esiason
      5
    • Brett Favre
      5
    • Roger Staubach
      5


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37 minutes ago, Elky said:

The era argument is irrelevent because on the flipside of things, defenders are much faster than before.

The era matters because of rules. There was a higher risk for injury holding onto the football too long back in the day and the middle of the field was a dangerous place to catch a football. Also pass interference and defensive holding calls were called differently along with the illegal contact rule. It is a passer friendly league now. No QB playing now would put up the same numbers in the 1980s even if they brought their team along with them.

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2 hours ago, Heinz D. said:

Namath wins the poll as constructed. Easily.

Can't believe people are arguing Elway is/was overrated.

Surprised no one has pointed out Montana is ceaselessly overrated. 

Montana was the #1 rated QB of all time until Kurt Warner, then Aaron Rodgers.  Montana had 4 rings.  Montana, with Bill Walsh basically brought the 49ers out of obscurity.  Montana was considered the GOAT for a long time, and rightly so

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3 hours ago, Superman(DH23) said:

Montana was the #1 rated QB of all time until Kurt Warner, then Aaron Rodgers.  Montana had 4 rings.  Montana, with Bill Walsh basically brought the 49ers out of obscurity.  Montana was considered the GOAT for a long time, and rightly so

Was Montana the GOAT QB, or Rice the GOAT WR? Or were they both the best ever? 

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11 hours ago, Elky said:

The era argument is irrelevent because on the flipside of things, defenders are much faster than before.

The way the rules are set up as well as the evolution of the game in general are the biggest aspects. You're missing the forrest through the trees. 

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11 hours ago, Thomas5737 said:

He was above the Kosar, Esiason, Kelly, Moon and such QBs at least by popular opinion at the time. Only Marino and Montana were clearly ahead of him. He was league MVP in 87. He also showed he was clutch with "the drive" until the SB came around. He certainly was viewed as a top QB way before 1993 that was actually on the downside of his career, he didn't move nearly as well at that point which was a huge part of his game.

He was on part with Moon throughout his career. Moon was more consistently good, rather than meh, then great. 

Elway had NO Business winning MVP in 87. 

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22 hours ago, Elky said:

The era argument is irrelevent because on the flipside of things, defenders are much faster than before.

The era argument has less to do with the quality of the athletes and more to do with the rule changes favoring offenses.

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2 hours ago, Yin-Yang said:

The era argument has less to do with the quality of the athletes and more to do with the rule changes favoring offenses.

Seconded. Which, in addition, is the biggest cause for defenders seeming to be much faster now anyways. This is rudimentary for explanatory purposes, and also ignores the fact that position distinctions are less important to coaches, but it goes as follows. Guys who used to play corner now play safety, safeties now play linebacker, outside linebackers play edge with a hand in the dirt, etc. They’re giving up power for speed at nearly every level.

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On 5/31/2019 at 8:12 PM, Calvert28 said:

Would most of any of those QB's outside of Brady have been able to do that? Bradshaw's team was so loaded he probably could have sat out until the SB each of those years.

To be fair, Brady has won A LOT especially his early SBs because he was consistently being backed by the best or one of the best defenses in the NFL. Not that he didnt contribute to the success early but it makes it a lot easier to win those games when you had those early 2000s Pats defenses destroying oppenents. It makes it a lot easier to have all of those accolades when every season your playing in the worst most non-competitive divison in football for the past 20 years, consistently have a elite defense on the other side and have the GOAT head coach on your team.

Hes clearly a monster and the best QB ive ever seen, Im just saying I dont think Brady would have all of the accolades if he didnt have such a clear path to success each and every season.

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38 minutes ago, AkronsWitness said:

To be fair, Brady has won A LOT especially his early SBs because he was consistently being backed by the best or one of the best defenses in the NFL. Not that he didnt contribute to the success early but it makes it a lot easier to win those games when you had those early 2000s Pats defenses destroying oppenents. It makes it a lot easier to have all of those accolades when every season your playing in the worst most non-competitive divison in football for the past 20 years, consistently have a elite defense on the other side and have the GOAT head coach on your team.

Hes clearly a monster and the best QB ive ever seen, Im just saying I dont think Brady would have all of the accolades if he didnt have such a clear path to success each and every season.

And my point is none of these QBs really would without alot of help. Brady has done more with less but the argument that some of these guys wouldnt have won all of these SBs without their supporting cast is kinda silly. Cause you have to have a great team to get there. 

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Namath isn't overrated in the least anymore, closer to underrated considering he is constantly brought up as the black sheep of the HOF and people love to pull up his stats with no context (that's not to say he isn't the black sheep of the HOF, but everyone knows it).

 

Aikman I feel falls in same territory. Not really overrated when nobody holds him in high regard.

 

Maybe Jim Kelly for me. Benefited a ton from being in a system beyond its' time, allowed him to really rack up the all time stats. He was pretty awful in the postseason. No QB puts up better numbers in the postseason than they did in regular season, but his really tumble. 

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17 hours ago, Heinz D. said:

Was Montana the GOAT QB, or Rice the GOAT WR? Or were they both the best ever? 

Both. Montana was an all time QB, Rice was an all time WR, and Walsh was an all time coach. That's the kind of insane collection of talent you need to have a dynasty in this league. It's not like we can only say Brady OR BB are responsible for Pats dynasty, clearly both are all timers. Or, it's not like we discount Brady's epic post-ACL stretch because he got to throw to an all time TE. Know what I mean? Pretty much any legendary run for a team, or even individual season for a player, has some legendary pieces behind it.

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17 hours ago, Heinz D. said:

Was Montana the GOAT QB, or Rice the GOAT WR? Or were they both the best ever? 

Both.  Rice IS the GOAT and Montana WAS the GOAT.  There is a reason why the 49ers were the most dominant team in a decade of extremely dominant teams

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1 hour ago, Calvert28 said:

And my point is none of these QBs really would without alot of help. Brady has done more with less but the argument that some of these guys wouldnt have won all of these SBs without their supporting cast is kinda silly. Cause you have to have a great team to get there. 

Exactly, which is why giving Brady sole credit for all of these rings makes me cringe. He has 1 ring because Malcom Butler saved his ***, each of the first 3 rings he had in the 2000s were heavily aided by the defenses he played with and another because the Falcons offense completely imploded on itself with help again from the Pats defense causing it.

Rodgers, Brees and Manning have a combined 4 super bowls and Brady has 6 wins. Knowing what you know about each player, do you really think that is due to Brady being that far superior to the others? Or because the other 3 guys have had weaker defenses, harder divisions for home field, ect.

For example, swap Rodgers/Brady. Do you think Brady would have 6 rings if he was playing his entire career in the NFCN in a divison with the Lions, Vikings and Bears while also playing with average/bad NFL defenses on the other side? I dont think so. Point is looking at rings to judge any QB is stupid and extremely flawed.

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1 hour ago, AkronsWitness said:

Exactly, which is why giving Brady sole credit for all of these rings makes me cringe. He has 1 ring because Malcom Butler saved his ***, each of the first 3 rings he had in the 2000s were heavily aided by the defenses he played with and another because the Falcons offense completely imploded on itself with help again from the Pats defense causing it.

Rodgers, Brees and Manning have a combined 4 super bowls and Brady has 6 wins. Knowing what you know about each player, do you really think that is due to Brady being that far superior to the others? Or because the other 3 guys have had weaker defenses, harder divisions for home field, ect.

For example, swap Rodgers/Brady. Do you think Brady would have 6 rings if he was playing his entire career in the NFCN in a divison with the Lions, Vikings and Bears while also playing with average/bad NFL defenses on the other side? I dont think so. Point is looking at rings to judge any QB is stupid and extremely flawed.

Brady is great 

Malcolm Butler never gets a pick without Brady’s 4th quarter comeback

His defenses helped in the first 3 Superbowls, but before Brady’s final drive, his team had just blown 17-3 and 21-10 leads to the Rams and Panthers late in the game. Brady saved the Patriots from epic collapses twice in his first 2 Superbowls. People forget this

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