Ward4HOF Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 PLAYER "A" Split 34,794 yds - 256.7 yds/gm - 224 TDs - 120 Ints - 65% - 90.9 Rating - 6.94 Adj Yds/Att + 39,643 yds - 309.7 yds/gm - 296 TDs - 113 Ints - 69.7% - 104.2 Rating - 8.25 Adj Yds/Att --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- PLAYER "B" Split 53,692 yds - 260.7 yds/gm - 349 TDs - 184 Ints - 64.1% - 95.2 Rating - 7.69 Adj Yds/Att + 2,502 yds - 250.2 yds/gm - 14 TDs - 6 Ints - 69.8% - 105 Rating - 8.94 Adj Yds/Att (Please excuse my semi-annual horse-beating exercise below...) Just imagine if PLAYER "B" were able to multiply his 2nd stat line 10-fold, while cutting his top stat line in half and PLAYER "A" had to divide his bottom stat line in half, but leave his top stat line as is....PLAYER "B" would be considered the 'Elite' QB, while PLAYER "A" would be considered...what was it... oh yeah...'Franchise' or 'Above Average' QB, with other players like Baker Mayfield, Matthew Stafford, and Deshaun Watson. Amazing how different their Careers might have been perceived, eh? I know, I know, you can't... 'it' doesn't work that way...but if you all can't see that 'some' QBs have not been greatly aided by the environment that they get to play in, as opposed to others...and oh BTW, the when 'not' in a dome, PLAYER "A"s division rivals are likely in 50-90 degree weather, while the others is between single digits, to 80 degree weather. Yep, I can totally see how Ben fits right there with Matthew Stafford--definitely on the same tier, while Brees is just chillin' with the cool kids, 2 tiers higher...yep, that's accurate. 👍 That might quite honestly be one of the most egregious slights against Ben's play as a QB that I have ever seen. Especially after leading the league in total yards, having a completion % of 67%, and the 2nd highest QBR in the NFL...I can totally see how that evaluation fits. Then, so this post isn't completely, 100% homerism, somebody dropped Aaron Rodgers after this season?? After posting a 25-to-2, TD-to-Int ratio? And please explain how Kyler Murray and his 10 NFL seasons, wait, no that's not right, 10 NFL games, hmm, no?? Oh yeah 10 minutes of NFL experience...lower, still?? 10 seconds, yep there we go...huh, not even that??...ZERO NFL experience?? And he's already Elite???? Over 4 QBs that, at some point, took their team to the SB...one of which, just last year...makes total sense. I heard that Goff can't even spell NFL now, much less, QB, so I can see how he's fallen so far off... So, I made mine, and color coordinated the QBs, with white jerseys on top, then Blue, black, red, mixed, and finally green...it's about as accurate as some of these others that I have seen in this thread! 😂 Seriously, though, I get it. This is not an easy list to put together, but I just cannot imagine why anyone would even bother to rank the Rookies anywhere else other than "Unknown"; how many Top 5 overall pick QBs have utterly busted in the NFL...guys that, at this point in years past, were still being hyped, just like in this thread, about being 'sure-fire' studs, only to 'flame-out' within a year or two?? And, again, how does Ben have a statistically impressive 'total-stats' + efficient season, then get placed in a similar tier as Baker Mayfield, or Matthew Stafford?? I'm sorry, but it's not lke he had a sub 60% comp %, or a one-to-one, TD-to-Int ratio, or a YPA or YPC of sub-5.0, or something... Okay...enough droning...haha!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas5737 Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Ward4HOF said: And, again, how does Ben have a statistically impressive 'total-stats' + efficient season, then get placed in a similar tier as Baker Mayfield Ben career: 64.4% completions, Mayfield 63.8 Ben TD% 5.1, Mayfield 5.6. Ben INT% 2.7, Baker 2.9. Ben 7.8 yards per attempt, Baker 7.7. Ben 94.2 rating, Mayfield 93.7. They are like twins, of course they are in the same tier for their careers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elky Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 (edited) https://postimg.cc/GHV1QMNJ Where is the complete and utter crap tier? Josh Rosen wishes he was at least a below average starter. Edited July 12, 2019 by Elky 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ward4HOF Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 9 hours ago, Thomas5737 said: Ben career: 64.4% completions, Mayfield 63.8 Ben TD% 5.1, Mayfield 5.6. Ben INT% 2.7, Baker 2.9. Ben 7.8 yards per attempt, Baker 7.7. Ben 94.2 rating, Mayfield 93.7. They are like twins, of course they are in the same tier for their careers. Of course...I see it now...thanks for the clarification...whatever was I thinking...Stafford's numbers are the same, as well, right??😎 15 Seasons of production vs 1 Season of production in the new, pass-happy, QB-friendly world we now see since 2016...yep, makes total sense to me... ...then there's the fact they both won OROY awards, and have taken their team to the SB 3x... Tell you what...Baker Mayfield has these same, or nearly the same accomplishments after 15 seasons, I'll happily place him in the same category as Big Ben...because they'll both be HOFers... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearerofnews Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 Passing Rushing Receiving Rk Player From To AV G QBrec Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD Rate Lng Int Sk Yds Y/A AY/A NY/A ANY/A Att Yds TD Y/A Lng Rec Yds TD Y/R Lng 1 Tom Brady 2017 2018 33 32 24-8-0 760 1151 66.0 8932 61 100.2 64 19 56 348 7.8 8.08 7.11 7.41 48 63 2 1.3 10 1 6 0 6.0 6 2 Drew Brees 2017 2018 33 31 24-7-0 750 1025 73.2 8326 55 109.5 72 13 37 266 8.1 8.63 7.59 8.07 64 34 6 .5 11 1 1 0 1.0 1 3 Andrew Luck 2016 2018 31 31 18-13-0 776 1184 65.5 8833 70 97.6 68 28 59 402 7.5 7.58 6.78 6.90 110 489 2 4.4 33 1 4 0 4.0 4 4 Philip Rivers 2017 2018 27 32 21-11-0 707 1083 65.3 8823 60 100.4 75 22 50 324 8.1 8.34 7.50 7.69 36 5 0 .1 8 0 0 0 0 5 Aaron Rodgers 2017 2018 20 23 10-12-1 526 835 63.0 6117 41 97.5 75 8 71 521 7.3 7.88 6.18 6.68 67 395 2 5.9 23 0 0 0 0 6 Russell Wilson 2017 2018 30 32 19-13-0 619 980 63.2 7431 69 102.1 74 18 94 677 7.6 8.16 6.29 6.82 162 962 3 5.9 40 1 -11 0 -11.0 0 Per Game But Rivers isnt elite and these other guys are and 1 year Mahomes. Yeah ok, makes literally no sense. Crazy how underrated Rivers is. All this with easily worst oline of any of the top qbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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