jrry32 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 5 hours ago, YogiBiz said: I can definitely see why this would be a knock on Ruiz, but I have long felt Michigan has had a lackluster O-Line coaching staff as they always seem to always vastly under perform in that department. I see the bends easier, but the technician part is a toss up at this point in there careers. I think Ruiz has excellent hand usage, and is much improved in getting into his set than he was his Junior year. At best, I would call the technique a wash. Hennessy is on Biadasz' level in terms of technique imo. What separates the two for me is Biadasz' size and strength. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fureys49ers Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 3 hours ago, jrry32 said: Hennessy is on Biadasz' level in terms of technique imo. What separates the two for me is Biadasz' size and strength. That my knock on Hennessy as well, but there also doesn’t appear to be that “finisher” aspect to his game either. Atleast from what I watched. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 (edited) Prince Tega Wanogho is going to go shooting up draft boards, the guy is a sick athlete and is very smooth and natural out there for a 6-7 dude. Tons of upside and could easily be a 2nd or 3rd rounder potentially if he has a good combine. I was not super high on him most the year but watching him more, he is without question one of the most athletic tackles in the up coming draft and at this point is pretty underrated. Edited January 22, 2020 by Ozzy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoboRocket Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 On 1/18/2020 at 1:24 PM, .Buzz said: It seems like Becton is going to continue to raise on boards. Brugler and Jeremiah seem to think he'll go top 10. I know there's been some discussions but where do you guys see him fitting in with the Thomas/Wirf/Wills tier? Andrew Thomas is a blue-chip LT prospect. That said, Mekhi could very easily be a top-10 pick, and I like him better than both Wirfs and Wills. To me, he's a more-athletic Trent Brown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyDez Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 Jeremiah has Wirfs as a guard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrry32 Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 1 minute ago, DirtyDez said: Jeremiah has Wirfs as a guard. This is why you can't trust men with two first names. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyDez Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 1 hour ago, jrry32 said: This is why you can't trust men with two first names. His first mock is always funky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmittyBacall Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 On 1/22/2020 at 12:33 AM, DirtyDez said: His first mock is always funky Yep. Rashaan Gary 2nd overall, Josh Jacobs at 5, Cody Ford at 11, Nasir Adderly at 22, Jaylon Ferguson at 24, Mack Wilson at 28, and Kyler Murray at 32. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001011490/article/daniel-jeremiah-mock-draft-10-kyler-murray-lands-with-patriot 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 On 1/21/2020 at 11:33 PM, DirtyDez said: His first mock is always funky I agree, this most recent one has Becton picked over Wirfs and Andrew Thomas make zero sense. Patrick Queen being a high 1st round pick when really he has had only one great year of production? Is a 2nd rounder maybe but 1st rounder is a big stretch. Ross Blacklock as a 1st rounder? He is good but not sure he is that good I feel. Kenneth Murray makes no sense for Baltimore, he is not a 3/4 ILB or OLB and Zach Baun a 1st round pick? I do not get that at all, great season for him but he is a 3/4 OLB who is a mid round pick, lucky for him the 3/4 OLB group is a poor one but still 1st rounder? Saw some talk of him being a ILB but I am not sure I buy that, he is a speed rusher on the edge not a aggressive physical dude in the middle. Wirfs at guard would be flat insane, he could do it easily with how thick and agile he is, so powerful and strong in the upper and lower body. He would be a Pro bowler no question and potential All pro guard but why when OT is usually the harder position to find talent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgers0821 Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 5 hours ago, Ozzy said: I agree, this most recent one has Becton picked over Wirfs and Andrew Thomas make zero sense. Patrick Queen being a high 1st round pick when really he has had only one great year of production? Is a 2nd rounder maybe but 1st rounder is a big stretch. Ross Blacklock as a 1st rounder? He is good but not sure he is that good I feel. Kenneth Murray makes no sense for Baltimore, he is not a 3/4 ILB or OLB and Zach Baun a 1st round pick? I do not get that at all, great season for him but he is a 3/4 OLB who is a mid round pick, lucky for him the 3/4 OLB group is a poor one but still 1st rounder? Saw some talk of him being a ILB but I am not sure I buy that, he is a speed rusher on the edge not a aggressive physical dude in the middle. Wirfs at guard would be flat insane, he could do it easily with how thick and agile he is, so powerful and strong in the upper and lower body. He would be a Pro bowler no question and potential All pro guard but why when OT is usually the harder position to find talent. What I’ve been hearing about Baun is he can be a Swiss Army knife type hybrid LB that a lot of teams covet these days, most teams do not see his as strictly a 3/4 OLB. They can line him up all over the place, plus he was a former QB (like Schobert, Connelly, and TJ Edwards) which helps with the mentaL side of the position. Wisconsin LBs have been doing very well as of late in the NFL and Baun seems to be the next potential one, even though he is a bit undersized. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrry32 Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 12 hours ago, Ozzy said: I agree, this most recent one has Becton picked over Wirfs and Andrew Thomas make zero sense. Patrick Queen being a high 1st round pick when really he has had only one great year of production? Is a 2nd rounder maybe but 1st rounder is a big stretch. Ross Blacklock as a 1st rounder? He is good but not sure he is that good I feel. Kenneth Murray makes no sense for Baltimore, he is not a 3/4 ILB or OLB and Zach Baun a 1st round pick? I do not get that at all, great season for him but he is a 3/4 OLB who is a mid round pick, lucky for him the 3/4 OLB group is a poor one but still 1st rounder? Saw some talk of him being a ILB but I am not sure I buy that, he is a speed rusher on the edge not a aggressive physical dude in the middle. Wirfs at guard would be flat insane, he could do it easily with how thick and agile he is, so powerful and strong in the upper and lower body. He would be a Pro bowler no question and potential All pro guard but why when OT is usually the harder position to find talent. Baun is definitely a 3-4 ILB in my mind. If you go back to 2018, there's more than enough snaps of him playing like a true off-the-ball LB to see his potential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 6 hours ago, badgers0821 said: What I’ve been hearing about Baun is he can be a Swiss Army knife type hybrid LB that a lot of teams covet these days, most teams do not see his as strictly a 3/4 OLB. They can line him up all over the place, plus he was a former QB (like Schobert, Connelly, and TJ Edwards) which helps with the mentaL side of the position. Wisconsin LBs have been doing very well as of late in the NFL and Baun seems to be the next potential one, even though he is a bit undersized. Will see how he times out, and his versatility does help I suppose but again I am not sure I see him as a tough 3/4 ILB, I would argue Markus Bailey is more versatile and is far more physical at the point of contact and can rush the edge if asked and is a better open field tackler. But he was injured this year so could not show it as much. And his teammate Chris Orr I like a lot as a 3/4 ILB with his pass rush skills and is more physical and strong than Baun. Baun might be more versatile in coverage but even a guy like Josh Uche I would take over Baun, Uche is surprisingly decent in coverage and is way stronger at the point of contact. Uche can walk tackles backwards, Baun cannot do that as much and is more a speed guy. I was surprised TJ Edwards last year was not drafted and not surprised he has done well when given a chance, and I am not surprised at all Connelly has been good when he has gotten an opportunity. But not sure that means Baun should be overvalued just because of those guys being undervalued. If anyone is a sleeper 1st round pick as a 3/4 OLB with versatility it is Josh Uche I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Josh Jones OT from Houston really intrigues me. I think that he's a climber. I really liked him as a 2nd round OT, but after this week's Senior Bowl, he may climb into the 1st. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroncosFan2010 Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Quote That said, Mekhi could very easily be a top-10 pick, and I like him better than both Wirfs and Wills. To me, he's a more-athletic Trent Brown. Thats what I keep coming away with. I think he is the #2 OT. Some people see his weight and ding him, but the man moves on tape. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, BroncosFan2010 said: Thats what I keep coming away with. I think he is the #2 OT. Some people see his weight and ding him, but the man moves on tape. Very true but the man also seems quite thin in the lower and upper extremities, gets out of position a lot at times, over blocks down field and creates poor blocking angles sometimes, does not have a thick lower base and does have a little bit of a injury history. Fine prospect but no way I take him over Wirfs or Thomas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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