BleedTheClock Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 22 minutes ago, showtime said: How good is Jeff Okudah? I skimmed through the beginning of the thread and nobody even mentioned him until like around page 6 or 7. Is he kind of like Joe Burrow in the respect that he wasn't touted as an elite (I see the guy at #3 overall pick in most mocks I look at) prospect, but he played great during the season to propel his way there? It is incredibly rare for CB's to excel in college that play almost exclusively press man coverage. That's what's valuable in the NFL. It's why Lattimore and Ward also went so high. Most college cornerbacks with good production play in zone schemes where they are not asked to suffocate the WR across from them. IT's hard to project their ability to play up in press. In Okudah's case, you know exactly what you're getting. He suffocates WR's and offers little space. He's really good, but I will admit I thought Lattimore and Ward were both better players. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 (edited) I wouldn’t be shocked if Mayock really surprised people and took a corner at 19 that isn’t Fulton/Henderson. I think both of those guys have been very overrated by the media the entire draft process. Raiders could turn some heads and draft Jaylon Johnson or AJ Terrell. I think Johnson is a perfect scheme fit honestly. Here is the only breakdown video I could find of Johnson: Entertaining Youtuber to say the least. Enjoyed the analysis + personality. Johnson reminds me of Rock Ya-Sin last year but I think he has a higher ceiling than Ya-Sin. Edited March 20, 2020 by BayRaider 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldfishwars Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 1 hour ago, BayRaider said: I wouldn’t be shocked if Mayock really surprised people and took a corner at 19 that isn’t Fulton/Henderson. I think both of those guys have been very overrated by the media the entire draft process. Raiders could turn some heads and draft Jaylon Johnson or AJ Terrell. I think Johnson is a perfect scheme fit honestly. Here is the only breakdown video I could find of Johnson: Entertaining Youtuber to say the least. Enjoyed the analysis + personality. Johnson reminds me of Rock Ya-Sin last year but I think he has a higher ceiling than Ya-Sin. To be honest, I'd be surprised to see Mayock taking any corner that didn't play with Clemson or LSU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrry32 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 6 hours ago, BayRaider said: I wouldn’t be shocked if Mayock really surprised people and took a corner at 19 that isn’t Fulton/Henderson. I think both of those guys have been very overrated by the media the entire draft process. Raiders could turn some heads and draft Jaylon Johnson or AJ Terrell. I think Johnson is a perfect scheme fit honestly. Here is the only breakdown video I could find of Johnson: Entertaining Youtuber to say the least. Enjoyed the analysis + personality. Johnson reminds me of Rock Ya-Sin last year but I think he has a higher ceiling than Ya-Sin. Anybody who takes A.J. Terrell over C.J. Henderson deserves to be fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaidersAreOne Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 Is Delpit's tackling concerns that big of a deal or are they that bad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 3 hours ago, jrry32 said: Anybody who takes A.J. Terrell over C.J. Henderson deserves to be fired. CJ Henderson avoids tackling like the plague. Even takes the wrong angles on purpose to avoid tackling. Mayock likes physical corners. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrry32 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 30 minutes ago, BayRaider said: CJ Henderson avoids tackling like the plague. Even takes the wrong angles on purpose to avoid tackling. Mayock likes physical corners. He protected himself in his final year. I like corners who can cover. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownLeader Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 12 hours ago, BayRaider said: I wouldn’t be shocked if Mayock really surprised people and took a corner at 19 that isn’t Fulton/Henderson. I think both of those guys have been very overrated by the media the entire draft process. Raiders could turn some heads and draft Jaylon Johnson or AJ Terrell. I think Johnson is a perfect scheme fit honestly. Here is the only breakdown video I could find of Johnson: Entertaining Youtuber to say the least. Enjoyed the analysis + personality. Johnson reminds me of Rock Ya-Sin last year but I think he has a higher ceiling than Ya-Sin. He ought to be top 5 based on that analysis. I like the positives he pointed out but.. i guess he's got 0 weaknesses? Johnson's interesting because he reportedly played 2019 with a torn labrum. My biggest issue with him was his physicality and footwork. But obviously that's sort of a wash if he's playing out there hurt. My take with some video..https://www.talkdraft.net/post/jaylon-johnson-scouting-report Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownLeader Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 3 hours ago, RaidersAreOne said: Is Delpit's tackling concerns that big of a deal or are they that bad? Tackling usually tightens up as a pro. Bigger issue might be durability. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldfishwars Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 This safety class is good. Whole bunch of nice players to look at on day two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 27 minutes ago, goldfishwars said: This safety class is good. Whole bunch of nice players to look at on day two. Love Winfield Jr. #2 for me behind Delpit and ahead of McKinney. Also really like Ashtyn Davis. Bit of a project pick but should be a nice sleeper for someone in the Late 2nd-Mid 3rd. Reminds me a lot of Troy Polamalu. Non stop motor and is everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldfishwars Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 7 minutes ago, BayRaider said: Love Winfield Jr. #2 for me behind Delpit and ahead of McKinney. Also really like Ashtyn Davis. Bit of a project pick but should be a nice sleeper for someone in the Late 2nd-Mid 3rd. Reminds me a lot of Troy Polamalu. Non stop motor and is everywhere. Whole bunch of guys. Like the small schoolers Duggar and Chinn, Terrell Burgess from Utah is outstanding too. Kavon Wallace, it's a good class man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamKid Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 10 minutes ago, goldfishwars said: Like the small schoolers Duggar and Chinn Who do you think gets drafted first? Dugger has more hype behind him, but he's also turning 24 in a couple of days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldfishwars Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 6 minutes ago, DreamKid said: Who do you think gets drafted first? Dugger has more hype behind him, but he's also turning 24 in a couple of days. Kinda depends what teams are looking for. Duggar might end up at linebacker, does his best stuff closer in. Chinn can play some high and has more versatility. Wouldn't be surprised if the Bears or Cleveland were looking really close there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamKid Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 1 minute ago, goldfishwars said: Kinda depends what teams are looking for. Duggar might end up at linebacker, does his best stuff closer in. Chinn can play some high and has more versatility. Wouldn't be surprised if the Bears or Cleveland were looking really close there. I think the Ravens will be really high on them too. Both are strong LB/S hybrid options, but I do see Chinn as the much more natural DB between them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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