RSkinGM Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 I sure hope Brucey sent a nice flower bouquet to Trent while he had his second procedure on his head. . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostnote Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 Yeah, not ready to kick Trent to the curb without a legitimate replacement in the mirror. Geron Christian nor Erick Flowers are incompetent and just not good enough to hold that position together. Sorry. I don't think Trent wants to be traded, but I think that he wants to get paid. The S&C coaches, as bad as they are, are the best scapegoat right now to exploit the idiocies of the front office and get more money. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 On 6/15/2019 at 12:51 PM, mike23md said: Geron Christian nor Erick Flowers are incompetent and just not good enough to hold that position together. Sorry. Christian might be okay (if only as a backup swing tackle), but Flowers is a waste of a roster spot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 (edited) I really wish Christian hadn’t gotten hurt last year and had been able to play more to spell Trent after Trent went down. I hope with Christian this is a case of Moses 2.0. Remember Moses had his lisfranc foot injury towards the end of his rookie year and then no one really knew what he would develop into or if he would even be back and starter worthy after that injury. My hope is that Christian has gotten bigger and stronger/in better shape this offseason like Moses did from his rookie year to second year and that Christian will have a good training camp and preseason. Then, we can all put to bed the worry of Trent and Moses not having a good back up. Edited June 26, 2019 by turtle28 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 On 6/26/2019 at 3:10 PM, turtle28 said: I really wish Christian hadn’t gotten hurt last year and had been able to play more to spell Trent after Trent went down. I hope with Christian this is a case of Moses 2.0. Remember Moses had his lisfranc foot injury towards the end of his rookie year and then no one really knew what he would develop into or if he would even be back and starter worthy after that injury. My hope is that Christian has gotten bigger and stronger/in better shape this offseason like Moses did from his rookie year to second year and that Christian will have a good training camp and preseason. Then, we can all put to bed the worry of Trent and Moses not having a good back up. If Callahan can make Christian look like a decent option at swing tackle in his second season, then he's worth every penny. Right now, though, it's not looking too optimistic. There's still time, but my level of confidence isn't that high on Geron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 (edited) 11 hours ago, Woz said: If Callahan can make Christian look like a decent option at swing tackle in his second season, then he's worth every penny. Right now, though, it's not looking too optimistic. There's still time, but my level of confidence isn't that high on Geron. This is your worries like over Morgan Moses all over again! I just don't get the overreaction and never will. Edited June 28, 2019 by turtle28 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 6 hours ago, turtle28 said: This is your worries like over Morgan Moses all over again! I just don't get the overreaction and never will. Because I've got a limited track record to evaluation Christian on (so I could be wrong), but the early returns were not good (and the fact that they had Ereck frickin' Flowers playing LT in OTAs is a major red flag). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Draper Posted June 28, 2019 Author Share Posted June 28, 2019 5 hours ago, Woz said: Because I've got a limited track record to evaluation Christian on (so I could be wrong), but the early returns were not good (and the fact that they had Ereck frickin' Flowers playing LT in OTAs is a major red flag). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 12 hours ago, Woz said: Because I've got a limited track record to evaluation Christian on (so I could be wrong), but the early returns were not good (and the fact that they had Ereck frickin' Flowers playing LT in OTAs is a major red flag). He was an underdeveloped rookie last year who wasn’t strong enough and his technique wasn’t developed yet, just like Moses in 2014. I mean obviously I don’t know that he will work out but he will get stronger and Callahan will definitely develop him more, but it’s true that that doesn’t mean that he develops into a good reserve or even starter quality OT. I trust Callahan to develop him though, he has w/ every other OL we’ve drafted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 On 6/28/2019 at 11:35 PM, turtle28 said: He was an underdeveloped rookie last year who wasn’t strong enough and his technique wasn’t developed yet, just like Moses in 2014. I mean obviously I don’t know that he will work out but he will get stronger and Callahan will definitely develop him more, but it’s true that that doesn’t mean that he develops into a good reserve or even starter quality OT. I trust Callahan to develop him though, he has w/ every other OL we’ve drafted. If everything in the 2019 OTAs occurred in 2018 when he was a rookie, then okay, yeah, he's a rookie. He's had a year in the system (so technique, training, etc. should at least be slightly imparted). They had ERECK FLOWERS starting over him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 (edited) 18 hours ago, Woz said: If everything in the 2019 OTAs occurred in 2018 when he was a rookie, then okay, yeah, he's a rookie. He's had a year in the system (so technique, training, etc. should at least be slightly imparted). They had ERECK FLOWERS starting over him. Wait, isn’t Christian recovering from knee surgery still? He just tore his MCL last November. Come on dude! Edited July 2, 2019 by turtle28 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 On 7/2/2019 at 6:04 AM, turtle28 said: Wait, isn’t Christian recovering from knee surgery still? He just tore his MCL last November. Come on dude! On one hand, that's a point to consider in his defense. On the other, that means he's not growing because the injury is impeding his ability to get reps. It sucks, but it is also the reality of things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naptownskinsfan Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 10 hours ago, Woz said: On one hand, that's a point to consider in his defense. On the other, that means he's not growing because the injury is impeding his ability to get reps. It sucks, but it is also the reality of things. Not a fan of Christian personally. Didn't like what I saw. Average strength and no drive, he's a technician in a league that's valuing that skillset less and less. He's also borderline small to be playing T at 298. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, naptownskinsfan said: Not a fan of Christian personally. Didn't like what I saw. Average strength and no drive, he's a technician in a league that's valuing that skillset less and less. He's also borderline small to be playing T at 298. How does the league not value an OT who is a technician? Seems to me the league is more pass first and if you have a technician at OT that's a good thing. I’ll say it again, players careers don’t end after their rookie seasons. It's just the beginning, let's see what happens in his development over the next few seasons. It says on NFL.com that he’s 302 pounds. He's also only going to be 23 Sept 10th. He's 6’5 and long, so he has the length, he has the frame to get bigger and stronger, which he hopefully has been working on since he tore his MCL in November. Edited July 4, 2019 by turtle28 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 On 7/4/2019 at 5:28 AM, turtle28 said: How does the league not value an OT who is a technician? Seems to me the league is more pass first and if you have a technician at OT that's a good thing. I’ll say it again, players careers don’t end after their rookie seasons. It's just the beginning, let's see what happens in his development over the next few seasons. It says on NFL.com that he’s 302 pounds. He's also only going to be 23 Sept 10th. He's 6’5 and long, so he has the length, he has the frame to get bigger and stronger, which he hopefully has been working on since he tore his MCL in November. Well, here's hoping he does/shows something in training camp. Otherwise, if I were Washington, I think I would be looking heavily at a first round tackle. Maybe a second one in the mid-rounds as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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