wackywabbit Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, TheKillerNacho said: Sheldon Richardson Well that changes everything about my world view... Edited June 11, 2019 by wackywabbit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingsrule Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 2 hours ago, TheKillerNacho said: Sheldon Richardson The Vikes clearly value players they've drafted and developed. Outside of Cousins and Reiff, most of the significant contracts have gone to home grown talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKillerNacho Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 19 minutes ago, vikingsrule said: The Vikes clearly value players they've drafted and developed. Outside of Cousins and Reiff, most of the significant contracts have gone to home grown talent. 22 minutes ago, wackywabbit said: Well that changes everything about my world view... I mean, he's a good player last year. Him leaving creates uncertainty at the DT position for the Vikes. Reason he wasn't kept was probably monetary. I'm also of the opinion that cap room can be worked around but there definitely are casualties when money is tight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBLIII Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 56 minutes ago, TENINCH said: Nothing wrong with a QB that can play 16 games a year Ouch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom cody Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 I figured he'd be as good as gone from the Vikings, with that said it's a good signing. He's one of the best tight ends in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soko Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, ILoveTheVikings said: The only thing that really matters is the guaranteed money. Never get why people say this. If all the GTD money is in year 1 of a 5 year deal, it’s a great deal. If all the GTD money is in year 5 of a 5 year deal, it’s a deal that’ll be hard to get out of. The cap hit will reflect the contract, not just the GTD dollars. If the GTD dollars are low but the salary is high - his cap hit will be high (pending structure). Total dollar amount matters about as much as GTD dollars and contract structures, they’re all important. If you expect Rudolph or any player on a deal to see the end of it, then GTD dollars are certainly not the only thing that matters. Total amount will reflect the cap hits. GTD dollars in conjunction with the structure of the deal will determine how easy it is to get out of the contract. Edited June 11, 2019 by Yin-Yang Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuskieTitan Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 1 hour ago, TENINCH said: Nothing wrong with a QB that can play 16 games a year As of December 11, 2018: 5-13 in Primetime games 4-24 vs winning teams (including 1-6 last year) 0-7 in MNF Guess 16 games is all you'd really need Cousins for... 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingsrule Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 2 hours ago, TheKillerNacho said: I mean, he's a good player last year. Him leaving creates uncertainty at the DT position for the Vikes. Reason he wasn't kept was probably monetary. I'm also of the opinion that cap room can be worked around but there definitely are casualties when money is tight. He was good, no doubt. Certainly wasn't spectacular or a key piece going forward though. The Vikes brought back a familiar face in Shamar Stephen to help replace him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TENINCH Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 1 hour ago, RuskieTitan said: As of December 11, 2018: 5-13 in Primetime games 4-24 vs winning teams (including 1-6 last year) 0-7 in MNF Guess 16 games is all you'd really need Cousins for... Don't care what he did in Washington. Vikings are a much better ran franchise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuskieTitan Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, TENINCH said: Don't care what he did in Washington. Vikings are a much better ran franchise. 1-6 last year with the Vikings against winning teams. Which is why you finished 8-7-1. If you can't beat winning teams, you're going to have a bad time in the playoffs... IF you make it. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TENINCH Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 Just now, RuskieTitan said: 1-6 last year with the Vikings against winning teams. Which is why you finished 8-7-1. If you can't beat winning teams, you're going to have a bad time in the playoffs... IF you make it. Which is why we went out into the draft to improve the offensive line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dll2000 Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 (edited) 13 hours ago, wackywabbit said: Exhibit R for why everyone needs to shut up about cap space mattering. The Vikings are paying a top QB contract AND gave pretty much their entire roster a big long term deal. Him signing lowers his cap number for this year likely. They were likely going to have to cut him to keep everyone and sign their draft class and have a bit of money for emergency in season signings. Next year is next year I guess. But you are right if you structure things many players can be retained or signed if you want them retained or signed. I think you won't see MN signing much in way of FAs in 2020 off season. But with new CBA coming might be nothing but 1 year deals anyway. Edited June 11, 2019 by dll2000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglesPeteC Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, TENINCH said: Nothing wrong with a QB that can play 16 games a year When being present is the greatest quality your QB has..... Edited June 11, 2019 by EaglesPeteC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TENINCH Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 1 hour ago, EaglesPeteC said: When being present is the greatest quality your QB has..... When being on the sidelines watching your backup win all the games if the greatest quality your QB has 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglesPeteC Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, TENINCH said: When being on the sidelines watching your backup win all the games if the greatest quality your QB has When you watch us stomp your team’s soul then hoist the trophy in your house..... Edited June 12, 2019 by EaglesPeteC 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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