Thelonebillsfan Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 Simple question, given yet another report coming out today about the just obscene amount of literal deaths of slave labor being used to build this testament to human cruelty, I can't imagine as we approach closer and closer that FIFA won't get enough blowback as this penetrates popular consciousness. So yeah, yes or no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 What my heart says - no What my brain knows once it remembers who is running this debacle (FIFA) - yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TedLavie Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 From a moral point of view? No From a quality of play point of view? No From a pratical point of view? No From an economic point of view? No It's FIFA? So yes 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heimdallr Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 The bribes have already been paid. It won't change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 7 minutes ago, Heimdallr said: The bribes have already been paid. It won't change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mse326 Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 6 hours ago, Thelonebillsfan said: Simple question, given yet another report coming out today about the just obscene amount of literal deaths of slave labor being used to build this testament to human cruelty, I can't imagine as we approach closer and closer that FIFA won't get enough blowback as this penetrates popular consciousness. So yeah, yes or no? But if they don't the deaths were for nothing /s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titansNvolsR#1 Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 When we visited Nepal, our sherpa showed us a plane landing saying it comes every day with the bodies of Nepalese men that died in Qatar. It's going to be played there and there will be a big to do about it leading up to the WC, but all of that will be forgotten as soon as it starts, sadly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeEvans Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 Yes. It absolutely shouldn't but FIFA is corrupt as hell. If anyone wants to action it has to be someone outside of FIFA. It's honestly disgusting that it hasnt been taken away from them yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thelonebillsfan Posted June 12, 2019 Author Share Posted June 12, 2019 5 hours ago, titansNvolsR#1 said: When we visited Nepal, our sherpa showed us a plane landing saying it comes every day with the bodies of Nepalese men that died in Qatar. It's going to be played there and there will be a big to do about it leading up to the WC, but all of that will be forgotten as soon as it starts, sadly. 1500 dead Nepali slaves alone. It's just staggering the degree of brutality we're condoning. For what? So a bunch of already obscenely wealthy people can make more money? It's the height of human evil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hitch Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 13 hours ago, Thelonebillsfan said: 1500 dead Nepali slaves alone. It's just staggering the degree of brutality we're condoning. For what? So a bunch of already obscenely wealthy people can make more money? It's the height of human evil. From my experience, all the big mainstream media and companies will dismiss this as politics. "Football unites the world" whereas those who point out that people died for this festival, are bringing politics into sport- where it doesn't belong. Or words to that effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 10 hours ago, The Hitch said: From my experience, all the big mainstream media and companies will dismiss this as politics. "Football unites the world" whereas those who point out that people died for this festival, are bringing politics into sport- where it doesn't belong. Or words to that effect. The phrase you are looking for (and the one they'll quietly use) is "cost of doing business." As heinous as that is, FIFA's not backing out now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hitch Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 14 hours ago, Woz said: The phrase you are looking for (and the one they'll quietly use) is "cost of doing business." As heinous as that is, FIFA's not backing out now. No, the point I'm making is how these people always hide behind the romanticized view of sport as "above politics" when they are intrinsically linked. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lomaxgrUK Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 The level of corruption knows no boundary. Why isn't every single major news outlet reporting this every single day? If one person died in the UK from poor working conditions it would (rightly) be EVERYWHERE. Yet, there is a deathly silence on this particular matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 3 hours ago, lomaxgrUK said: The level of corruption knows no boundary. Why isn't every single major news outlet reporting this every single day? If one person died in the UK from poor working conditions it would (rightly) be EVERYWHERE. Yet, there is a deathly silence on this particular matter. To be honest, it's because they're poor people over there (*waves hand in vaguish sense*). We don't see them so they don't exist so it never happened and oh here's a lot of money and oooh shiny ball! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mse326 Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 On 6/14/2019 at 5:48 AM, The Hitch said: No, the point I'm making is how these people always hide behind the romanticized view of sport as "above politics" when they are intrinsically linked. Sports and politics are not intrinsically linked. They are linked in this and other situations, but that is the doing of individuals (either as individuals or through organizations). There is nothing that actually requires it though. Sports should be above politics, and it sucks when it's not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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