ramssuperbowl99 Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 Just now, Yin-Yang said: So you won’t respond to the questions then? Guess the moral high ground is applied...well, whenever you feel like it. They're not good questions. This would be like debating whether tenure for college professors is a good thing or not, and you asking if we should also have tenure for the janitorial staff as if it's relevant to the issue at hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soko Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, ramssuperbowl99 said: They're not good questions. This would be like debating whether tenure for college professors is a good thing or not, and you asking if we should also have tenure for the janitorial staff as if it's relevant to the issue at hand. Whatever you have to tell yourself, homeslice. Not answering the questions, pretty much answers the questions. Keep riding that wave. Edited June 16, 2019 by Yin-Yang 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4L Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Yin-Yang said: So you won’t respond to the questions then? Guess the moral high ground is applied...well, whenever you feel like it. Coaches leave all the time when they are under contract to get a promotion. Should we not let coaches break their contract in this scenario? That's essentially what you are saying. It's different for players because they are still 1 of 53 no matter which roster they are on. There is no promotion possible for players because being on a roster is binary, you either are or you aren't. Even for someone who would start that is currently a backup, that is not an official promotion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soko Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 43 minutes ago, N4L said: Coaches leave all the time when they are under contract to get a promotion. Should we not let coaches break their contract in this scenario? That's essentially what you are saying. No, it isn’t what I’m saying. I’m raising questions to see if the logic is applied across the board. Certain posters seem to be bothered by the idea that a boss might try to block a direct competitor from stealing an employee that is currently under contract. I’m wondering if that logic applies across the board. I’m well aware that there are different tampering rules as it pertains to coaches and players, but that’s not the point. I don’t care on the issue - just wondering if the guy was objective or not. 43 minutes ago, N4L said: It's different for players because they are still 1 of 53 no matter which roster they are on. There is no promotion possible for players because being on a roster is binary, you either are or you aren't. Even for someone who would start that is currently a backup, that is not an official promotion That isn’t the point. The point was to highlight an employer, intentionally keeping a guy in a position he may be unhappy in, in an effort to keep him out of the hands of a competitor. For office guys, that’s an issue (apparently). For players, we have no issue with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tab Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 (edited) 10 hours ago, Yin-Yang said: Certain posters seem to be bothered by the idea that a boss might try to block a direct competitor from stealing an employee that is currently under contract. I’m wondering if that logic applies across the board. I’m well aware that there are different tampering rules as it pertains to coaches and players, but that’s not the point. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/06/15/does-the-caserio-clause-comply-with-league-rules/ as someone who's been under contract, i understand them but also i legit wonder about the legality of this and why, if it is legal, why its not standard for every front office employee ever currently in the nfl Edited June 17, 2019 by tab Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom cody Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 To me if a person who's not a GM or coach currently is given the opportunity to be a coach or GM with another team you should let them do so. Don't agree with the Patriots approach here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patman Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 7 hours ago, tom cody said: To me if a person who's not a GM or coach currently is given the opportunity to be a coach or GM with another team you should let them do so. Don't agree with the Patriots approach here. Even if they already let the #2 and #3 guys go earlier in the off season? If houston would have asked 2 months ago before the other guys left. then robinson could have stayed and got Nick's job. So if Nick moves on the pats have now lost the top 2 guys in the front office, the def co-od, Def line coach, WR coach, qb coach, cornerback coach. And this is one year after Patricia took coaches with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/patriots/2019/06/17/the-real-story-patriots-texans-clash-nick-caserio-wants-out/6Aw1Fmk7i3I2N0lO9wldvJ/story.html The Boston Globe is painting a story of a very negative situation... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tex Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 (edited) 14 hours ago, ET80 said: https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/patriots/2019/06/17/the-real-story-patriots-texans-clash-nick-caserio-wants-out/6Aw1Fmk7i3I2N0lO9wldvJ/story.html The Boston Globe is painting a story of a very negative situation... Sounds like an opinion piece. From Ben Volin nonetheless. That's their equivalent of McClain. Edited June 18, 2019 by Tex 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramssuperbowl99 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 14 hours ago, ET80 said: https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/patriots/2019/06/17/the-real-story-patriots-texans-clash-nick-caserio-wants-out/6Aw1Fmk7i3I2N0lO9wldvJ/story.html The Boston Globe is painting a story of a very negative situation... You mean the guy who had a chance to become a GM and was told by his boss he couldn't interview is now mad at his boss. SHOCK. FACE. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 16 minutes ago, Tex said: Sounds like an opinion piece. From Ben Volin nonetheless. That's their equivalent of McClain. Could be. I don't know, but I wouldn't blame him if he was upset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingOfNewYork Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 I still haven’t gotten my answer but why can’t Caserio leave? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patman Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 9 hours ago, ramssuperbowl99 said: You mean the guy who had a chance to become a GM and was told by his boss he couldn't interview is now mad at his boss. SHOCK. FACE. Why did he sign a contract saying that he could not leave on his own volition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBLIII Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 12 hours ago, KingOfTheDot said: I still haven’t gotten my answer but why can’t Caserio leave? there is a clause in his contracts that prevents him to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingOfNewYork Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 30 minutes ago, SBLIII said: there is a clause in his contracts that prevents him to. What’s the clause? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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