Toneloke38 Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 (edited) So K-Austin Seibert unseating K-Greg Joesph as the starter isn't really a hot take as you don't draft a Kicker if you don't expect them to be a starter. The bold part of the prediction is the Scottish Hammer to unseat quality veteran punter Britton Colquitt. Obviously, Britton Colquitt is a very talented punter and Jamie Gillan is more of an unknown talent with a supposedly high ceiling. Why do I think this will happen? The Financials... The Browns will save over $2.2M per year for the next 3 years with Gillan punting versus Colquitt. I think the Browns probably would like the idea of having two young talented players at Special Teams locked up on the cheap for the next 3 to 4 years. PREDICTION: K- Austin Seibert unseats incumbent K-Greg Joseph AND P-Jamie Gillan unseats incumbent P-Britton Colquitt What do you guys think are the odds of both K-Joseph & P-Colquitt getting unseated this offseason by our new talent? Edited June 15, 2019 by Toneloke38 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdrawkcab321 Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 21 minutes ago, Toneloke38 said: So K-Austin Seibert unseating K-Greg Joesph as the starter isn't really a hot take as you don't draft a Kicker if you don't expect them to be a starter. The bold part of the prediction is the Scottish Hammer to unseat quality veteran punter Britton Colquitt. Obviously, Britton Colquitt is a very talented punter and Jamie Gillan is more of an unknown talent with a supposedly high ceiling. Why do I think this will happen? The Financials... The Browns will save over $2.2M per year for the next 3 years with Gillan punting versus Colquitt. I think the Browns probably would like the idea of having two young talented players at Special Teams locked up on the cheap for the next 3 to 4 years. PREDICTION: K- Austin Seibert unseats incumbent K-Greg Joseph AND P-Jamie Gillan unseats incumbent P-Britton Colquitt What do you guys think are the odds of both K-Joseph & P-Colquitt getting unseated this offseason by our new talent? Colquitt cost 2.8M. If it’s even lose Gillan will win the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas5737 Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 Pretty sure Freddie will be making the cuts and he will probably keep the better player unless it is close. My hunch says we keep Joseph and Colquitt. I haven't seen the youngsters yet so it's just a guess. The rookies can go on the practice squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toneloke38 Posted June 15, 2019 Author Share Posted June 15, 2019 (edited) Nah you don't draft a Kicker in the 5th Round to risk some other team stealing him, by signing him off your practice squad. Barring injury, Seibert is pretty much a lock to unseat Joseph. Gillan the "Scottish Hammer" is a longer shot due to inexperience, but the financials help his odds significantly. Edited June 15, 2019 by Toneloke38 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwibrown Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 If joesph wins the comp, then he wins the comp and he is miles a head at the moment. Colquitt will lose unless he is dominant. He will also have some trade value, especially if a punter goes down in pre season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruceb Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 49 minutes ago, Kiwibrown said: If joesph wins the comp, then he wins the comp and he is miles a head at the moment. Thought I read somewhere that Joseph's advantage is in part to the Hammer not knowing how to spot the ball for Seibert? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawgX Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Toneloke38 said: Nah you don't draft a Kicker in the 5th Round to risk some other team stealing him, by signing him off your practice squad. Barring injury, Seibert is pretty much a lock to unseat Joseph. Gillan the "Scottish Hammer" is a longer shot due to inexperience, but the financials help his odds significantly. I've heard that Joseph is looking way better than Seibert at the moment. Obviously there's still a long ways to go until the season, but if Joseph remains looking that much better, you cut Seibert. I was all for us drafting a kicker, but Seibert seemed like an underwhelming selection at the time. Hope he proves me wrong. Colquitt is a very solid punter, but I wouldn't be shocked if he's cut (or hopefully traded) for the rookie. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas5737 Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 (edited) 44 minutes ago, bruceb said: Thought I read somewhere that Joseph's advantage is in part to the Hammer not knowing how to spot the ball for Seibert? I heard each punter held twice for each kicker and Joseph went 4-4 and Seibert 1-4. Just one day and they were questioning the rookie holding ability but I heard they split them so we'll see. The battles have barely even begun at this point but Seibert will have to make the 53 you don't gamble at that position. Edited June 15, 2019 by Thomas5737 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NateDawg Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 I like Colquitt and Joseph in the battles. It's about winning games. They aren't going to keep a kicker if he's not kicking better than the other guy. Early returns haven't been great on Seibert, but it's still early. We know what Colquitt can do, and I think there's familiarity and trust there as a punter and holder. I don't think money savings become a factor for final cuts here on a team that is trying to win a SB, unless it's a totally even call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pnies20 Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 Joseph did a lot better than seibert in OTAs from what I heard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 I’d be surprised if Seibert wasn’t our K despite the bad showing in the spring. As @Toneloke38 stated, I don’t think you burn a 5th on a K and then cut him immediately. I mean, it wouldn’t be the upset of the century if they did but it would be surprising. To me anyway. I’d be surprised to see Colquitt get cut. I get he’s paid significantly more, but he’s also one of the best in the league. If our goal is to win a super bowl, I’m not sure we should be heading into the season with a pair of rookie kicking specialists is our best option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 1 hour ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: I’d be surprised if Seibert wasn’t our K despite the bad showing in the spring. As @Toneloke38 stated, I don’t think you burn a 5th on a K and then cut him immediately. I mean, it wouldn’t be the upset of the century if they did but it would be surprising. To me anyway. I’d be surprised to see Colquitt get cut. I get he’s paid significantly more, but he’s also one of the best in the league. If our goal is to win a super bowl, I’m not sure we should be heading into the season with a pair of rookie kicking specialists is our best option. Especially in light of our special teams costing us 2-4 games last year, I can't see the coaching staff being willing to roll the dice on that again this year. Trading for OBJ and the other moves that they made on the DL/trades for Vernon/Richardson signaled a "we are now in contention mode" philosophy. Cutting one of the best punters in the league to save a few pennies isn't the move that I'd bet on. The K job is a giant question mark, but I'd be surprised to see us move/cut Colquitt unless they are 100% sure on the other guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 I could see them keeping the P on the practice squad and “redshirting” him for next season though. That allows a savings of a couple million without having to field a rookie. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 The newer guys also have versatility. Both can punt and kick. If we cut Joseph, it’s not like other teams are going to swarm in and pick him up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomahawk Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 11 minutes ago, candyman93 said: The newer guys also have versatility. Both can punt and kick. If we cut Joseph, it’s not like other teams are going to swarm in and pick him up. Have you seen the Bears kicking situation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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