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37 minutes ago, ET80 said:

From what I've been told - Sumo wrestlers in Japan are like demigods, they're basically royalty out there.

Why leave that sort of setup?

So you can receive the love and affection of being a Houston Texan from ET80? I heard that dude still has a Andre Johnson shrine in his closet next to his #5 voodoo doll.

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59 minutes ago, candyman93 said:

So you can receive the love and affection of being a Houston Texan from ET80? I heard that dude still has a Andre Johnson shrine in his closet next to his #5 voodoo doll.

If I could only stop breaking into DeAndre Hopkins' house and watching him sleep, I'm sure this would be a compelling argument.

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11 hours ago, tannenballs said:

Is LDT for the Chiefs the only international player that starts?

Not even close

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Birthplace Nationality Player Position First year Team
21px-Flag_of_Albania.svg.png Albania 21px-Flag_of_Albania.svg.png Albania Kristjan Sokoli DE 2015 Free agent
23px-Flag_of_Angola.svg.png Angola 23px-Flag_of_Canada_%28Pantone%29.svg.pn Canada Christo Bilukidi DE 2012 Free agent
23px-Flag_of_Australia_%28converted%29.s Australia 23px-Flag_of_Australia_%28converted%29.s Australia Jordan Berry P 2015 Pittsburgh Steelers
23px-Flag_of_Australia_%28converted%29.s Australia 23px-Flag_of_Australia_%28converted%29.s Australia Michael Dickson P 2018 Seattle Seahawks
23px-Flag_of_Australia_%28converted%29.s Australia 23px-Flag_of_Australia_%28converted%29.s Australia Lac Edwards P 2016 New York Jets
23px-Flag_of_Australia_%28converted%29.s Australia 23px-Flag_of_Australia_%28converted%29.s Australia Adam Gotsis DE 2016 Denver Broncos
23px-Flag_of_Australia_%28converted%29.s Australia 23px-Flag_of_Australia_%28converted%29.s Australia Tom Hackett P 2016 Free agent
23px-Flag_of_Australia_%28converted%29.s Australia 23px-Flag_of_Australia_%28converted%29.s Australia Cameron Johnston P 2017 Philadelphia Eagles
23px-Flag_of_Australia_%28converted%29.s Australia 23px-Flag_of_Australia_%28converted%29.s Australia Jordan Mailata OT 2018 Philadelphia Eagles
23px-Flag_of_Australia_%28converted%29.s Australia 23px-Flag_of_Australia_%28converted%29.s Australia Brad Wing P 2013 Free Agent
23px-Flag_of_Australia_%28converted%29.s Australia 23px-Flag_of_Australia_%28converted%29.s Australia Mitch Wishnowsky P 2019 San Francisco 49ers
23px-Flag_of_Belize.svg.png Belize 23px-Flag_of_Belize.svg.png Belize Rakeem Nuñez-Roches NT 2015 Tampa Bay Buccaneers
22px-Flag_of_Brazil.svg.png Brazil 22px-Flag_of_Brazil.svg.png Brazil Cairo Santos K 2014 Tampa Bay Buccaneers
23px-Flag_of_Cameroon.svg.png Cameroon 23px-Flag_of_Cameroon.svg.png Cameroon Arie Kouandjio OG 2015 Free Agent
23px-Flag_of_Cameroon.svg.png Cameroon 23px-Flag_of_Cameroon.svg.png Cameroon Cyrus Kouandjio OG 2014 Free Agent
23px-Flag_of_Cameroon.svg.png Cameroon 23px-Flag_of_Cameroon.svg.png Cameroon Steve Longa LB 2016 Detroit Lions
23px-Flag_of_Canada_%28Pantone%29.svg.pn Canada 23px-Flag_of_Canada_%28Pantone%29.svg.pn Canada Eli Ankou DT 2017 Jacksonville Jaguars
23px-Flag_of_Canada_%28Pantone%29.svg.pn Canada 23px-Flag_of_Canada_%28Pantone%29.svg.pn Canada Antony Auclair TE 2017 Tampa Bay Buccaneers
23px-Flag_of_Canada_%28Pantone%29.svg.pn Canada 23px-Flag_of_Canada_%28Pantone%29.svg.pn Canada Brett Boyko OG 2015 Free Agent
23px-Flag_of_Canada_%28Pantone%29.svg.pn Canada 23px-Flag_of_Canada_%28Pantone%29.svg.pn Canada Stefan Charles DT 2013 Free Agent
23px-Flag_of_Canada_%28Pantone%29.svg.pn Canada 23px-Flag_of_Canada_%28Pantone%29.svg.pn Canada Christian Covington DT 2015 Dallas Cowboys
23px-Flag_of_Canada_%28Pantone%29.svg.pn Canada 23px-Flag_of_Canada_%28Pantone%29.svg.pn Canada Tyrone Crawford DT 2012 Dallas Cowboys
23px-Flag_of_Canada_%28Pantone%29.svg.pn Canada 23px-Flag_of_Canada_%28Pantone%29.svg.pn Canada Laurent Duvernay-Tardif OT 2014 Kansas City Chiefs
23px-Flag_of_Canada_%28Pantone%29.svg.pn Canada 23px-Flag_of_Saint_Vincent_and_the_Grena Saint Vincent and the Grenadines N'Keal Harry WR 2019 New England Patriots
23px-Flag_of_Canada_%28Pantone%29.svg.pn Canada 23px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png United States T. J. Jones WR 2014 Free Agent
23px-Flag_of_Canada_%28Pantone%29.svg.pn Canada 23px-Flag_of_Canada_%28Pantone%29.svg.pn Canada Brett Jones C 2015 Minnesota Vikings
23px-Flag_of_Canada_%28Pantone%29.svg.pn Canada 23px-Flag_of_Canada_%28Pantone%29.svg.pn Canada L. P. Ladouceur LS 2005 Dallas Cowboys
23px-Flag_of_Canada_%28Pantone%29.svg.pn Canada 23px-Flag_of_Canada_%28Pantone%29.svg.pn Canada Austin Pasztor OT 2012 Tennessee Titans
23px-Flag_of_Canada_%28Pantone%29.svg.pn Canada 23px-Flag_of_Canada_%28Pantone%29.svg.pn Canada Jon Ryan P 2006 Free agent
23px-Flag_of_Canada_%28Pantone%29.svg.pn Canada 23px-Flag_of_Canada_%28Pantone%29.svg.pn Canada Nathan Shepherd DE 2018 New York Jets
23px-Flag_of_Canada_%28Pantone%29.svg.pn Canada 23px-Flag_of_Canada_%28Pantone%29.svg.pn Canada Brent Urban DE 2014 Tennessee Titans
23px-Flag_of_Canada_%28Pantone%29.svg.pn Canada 23px-Flag_of_Canada_%28Pantone%29.svg.pn Canada Luke Willson TE 2013 Oakland Raiders
20px-Flag_of_the_Democratic_Republic_of_ Democratic Republic of the Congo 23px-Flag_of_Canada_%28Pantone%29.svg.pn Canada Boseko Lokombo LB 2017 Free agent
20px-Flag_of_the_Democratic_Republic_of_ Democratic Republic of the Congo 23px-Flag_of_Canada_%28Pantone%29.svg.pn Canada Andy Mulumba LB 2013 Free agent
20px-Flag_of_Denmark.svg.png Denmark 20px-Flag_of_Denmark.svg.png Denmark Hjalte Froholdt OG 2019 New England Patriots
23px-Flag_of_England.svg.png England 23px-Flag_of_the_United_Kingdom.svg.png United Kingdom Jay Ajayi RB 2015 Free Agent
23px-Flag_of_England.svg.png England 23px-Flag_of_the_United_Kingdom.svg.png United Kingdom Jack Crawford DT 2012 Atlanta Falcons
23px-Flag_of_England.svg.png England 23px-Flag_of_the_United_Kingdom.svg.png United Kingdom Jermaine Eluemunor OL 2017 Free Agent
23px-Flag_of_England.svg.png England 23px-Flag_of_the_United_Kingdom.svg.png United Kingdom Alex Gray TE 2017 Atlanta Falcons
23px-Flag_of_England.svg.png England 23px-Flag_of_the_United_Kingdom.svg.png United Kingdom Menelik Watson OT 2013 Free Agent
23px-Flag_of_Estonia.svg.png Estonia 23px-Flag_of_Estonia.svg.png Estonia Margus Hunt DE 2013 Indianapolis Colts
23px-Flag_of_France.svg.png France 23px-Flag_of_France.svg.png France Anthony Dablé WR 2016 Free agent
23px-Flag_of_Germany.svg.png Germany 23px-Flag_of_Germany.svg.png Germany Moritz Böhringer WR 2016 Cincinnati Bengals
23px-Flag_of_Germany.svg.png Germany 23px-Flag_of_Germany.svg.png Germany/
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Kasim Edebali OLB 2014 Cincinnati Bengals
23px-Flag_of_Germany.svg.png Germany 23px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png United States Mike Jenkins CB 2008 Free agent
23px-Flag_of_Germany.svg.png Germany 23px-Flag_of_Germany.svg.png Germany Mark Nzeocha LB 2015 San Francisco 49ers
23px-Flag_of_Ghana.svg.png Ghana 23px-Flag_of_Ghana.svg.png Ghana Ezekiel Ansah DE 2013 Free Agent
23px-Flag_of_Haiti.svg.png Haiti 23px-Flag_of_Haiti.svg.png Haiti Dadi Nicolas LB 2016 Free Agent
23px-Flag_of_Italy.svg.png Italy 23px-Flag_of_Italy.svg.png Italy Giorgio Tavecchio K 2012 Atlanta Falcons
23px-Flag_of_Jamaica.svg.png Jamaica 23px-Flag_of_Jamaica.svg.png Jamaica Corey Ballentine CB 2019 New York Giants
23px-Flag_of_Jamaica.svg.png Jamaica 23px-Flag_of_Jamaica.svg.png Jamaica Patrick Chung S 2009 New England Patriots
23px-Flag_of_Jamaica.svg.png Jamaica 23px-Flag_of_Jamaica.svg.png Jamaica/23px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png United States Danielle Hunter DE 2015 Minnesota Vikings
23px-Flag_of_Japan.svg.png Japan 23px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png United States DaeSean Hamilton WR 2018 Denver Broncos
23px-Flag_of_Kenya.svg.png Kenya 23px-Flag_of_Kenya.svg.png Kenya Rees Odhiambo OG 2016 Arizona Cardinals
23px-Flag_of_Liberia.svg.png Liberia 23px-Flag_of_Liberia.svg.png Liberia Jehu Chesson WR 2017 Washington Redskins
23px-Flag_of_Liberia.svg.png Liberia 23px-Flag_of_Liberia.svg.png Liberia Kelvin Harmon WR 2019 Washington Redskins
23px-Flag_of_Liberia.svg.png Liberia 23px-Flag_of_Liberia.svg.png Liberia Jonathan Massaquoi LB 2012 Free agent
23px-Flag_of_New_Zealand.svg.png New Zealand 23px-Flag_of_New_Zealand.svg.png New Zealand Paul Lasike FB 2015 Free agent
23px-Flag_of_Nigeria.svg.png Nigeria 23px-Flag_of_Nigeria.svg.png Nigeria / 23px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png United States Nelson Agholor WR 2015 Philadelphia Eagles
23px-Flag_of_Nigeria.svg.png Nigeria 23px-Flag_of_Nigeria.svg.png Nigeria Ade Aruna DE 2018 Minnesota Vikings
23px-Flag_of_Nigeria.svg.png Nigeria 23px-Flag_of_Nigeria.svg.png Nigeria Jeremiah Attaochu LB 2014 Kansas City Chiefs
23px-Flag_of_Nigeria.svg.png Nigeria 23px-Flag_of_Nigeria.svg.png Nigeria Ben Banogu DE 2019 Indianapolis Colts
23px-Flag_of_Nigeria.svg.png Nigeria 23px-Flag_of_Nigeria.svg.png Nigeria Obum Gwacham DE 2015 Free Agent
23px-Flag_of_Nigeria.svg.png Nigeria 23px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png United States Leon Jacobs LB 2018 Jacksonville Jaguars
23px-Flag_of_Nigeria.svg.png Nigeria 23px-Flag_of_the_United_Kingdom.svg.png United Kingdom Efe Obada LB 2015 Carolina Panthers
23px-Flag_of_Nigeria.svg.png Nigeria 23px-Flag_of_Nigeria.svg.png Nigeria Chukwuma Okorafor OT 2018 Pittsburgh Steelers
23px-Flag_of_Nigeria.svg.png Nigeria 23px-Flag_of_Nigeria.svg.png Nigeria/23px-Flag_of_Canada_%28Pantone%29.svg.pn Canada David Onyemata DT 2016 New Orleans Saints
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Graham Gano K 2009 Carolina Panthers
23px-Flag_of_South_Africa.svg.png South Africa 23px-Flag_of_South_Africa.svg.png South Africa Greg Joseph K 2018 Cleveland Browns
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JJ Arcega-Whiteside WR 2019 Philadelphia Eagles
23px-Flag_of_Tonga.svg.png Tonga 23px-Flag_of_Tonga.svg.png Tonga Star Lotulelei DT 2013 Buffalo Bills
23px-Flag_of_Turkey.svg.png Turkey 23px-Flag_of_Turkey.svg.png Turkey/23px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png United States Chris Conley WR 2015 Jacksonville Jaguars
23px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png United States 23px-Flag_of_Canada_%28Pantone%29.svg.pn Canada / 23px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png United States Brett Rypien QB 2019 Denver Broncos
23px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png United States 23px-Flag_of_Germany.svg.png Germany / 23px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png United States Equanimeous St. Brown WR 2018 Green Bay Packers
23px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png United States 23px-Flag_of_Spain.svg.png Spain / 23px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png United States Alejandro Villanueva OT 2014 Pittsburgh Steelers
23px-Flag_of_Zimbabwe.svg.png Zimbabwe 23px-Flag_of_Zimbabwe.svg.png Zimbabwe Stansly Maponga DE 2013 Free agent
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Not many starters there and many are essentially out of the league but still interesting to look at.

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3 Colts on that list (Margus Hunt, Ben Banogu and Dadi Nicholas-incorrectly listed as a free agent) and 1, Obum Gwacham who was with us for a hot second.  

 

I think the biggest difference between the NBA and NFL is that unless an overseas player comes to play college football in the states the level of competition just isn’t relatable enough to judge. At least in basketball there was high level competition outside the states already but now even more players come here to play basketball to show off their skills to a broader audience. 

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Aussie rules breeds punters which is interesting. Obviously it is a specific skill, that translates well. 

 

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On 6/24/2019 at 9:03 AM, Wyld Stallyns said:

3 Colts on that list (Margus Hunt, Ben Banogu and Dadi Nicholas-incorrectly listed as a free agent) and 1, Obum Gwacham who was with us for a hot second.  

 

I think the biggest difference between the NBA and NFL is that unless an overseas player comes to play college football in the states the level of competition just isn’t relatable enough to judge. At least in basketball there was high level competition outside the states already but now even more players come here to play basketball to show off their skills to a broader audience. 

Nailed it. Basketball benefits from global pro leagues. While football is indeed played around the world, it's pretty much an amateur sport in those nations. So, for internationals it's pretty much no college ball, no bueno. 

Imo - football needs an abbreviated form of the game (Not flag) that's easier to pick up & can be played at a higher level in nations without the necessary resources to create a full scale pro league. Something similar to Rugby Sevens which has seen both the US Men's & Women's teams go from making up the numbers to legitimate contenders. And produced an American back to back World Rugby Sevens Player of the Year in Perry Baker. Baker is without doubt one of the best to ever play rugby's abbreviated form. Had he transitioned to rugby earlier in his career he'd probably be a world class fifteens (Full version) outside back  too.   

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Christian Wade is an English international in rugby union who signed for the Buffalo Bills a few months ago as a running back.

Wade is an explosive and elusive 5-8 scatback type runner with good vision and cutting ability. He played rugby at the highest level and will be on the Bills practice squad this season as part of the NFL’s International Player Pathway programme. 

For an NFL comparison think of him as rugby’s version of Tarik Cohen. 

 

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as i understand in America kids are taught to play Football at school from an early age. 

 

In europe, some schools teach sports (obviously not American football) but from my experience, at least growing up in the 90's, we play sports a little at school but mostly in our free time on the streets or in parks. 

 

richer kids may go to schools were a specific sport is taught (eg rugby) or go to private clubs (like sign up for youth teams of professional clubs. Barcelona eg has youth teams going down to like age 5 iirc. But that will be very selective, you need to have connections to get into places like that.)

 

Kids who would be good at American Football - growing up in Europe, will never get into American Football because they will never come across it at School. They will never have had the coaches teaching them the ins and outs of their particular position, when they are younger.

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On 6/23/2019 at 5:56 PM, Kiwibrown said:

Aussie rules breeds punters which is interesting. Obviously it is a specific skill, that translates well. 

 

Which is why the niners spent a high 4th round pick on a mitch wishnowsky. He's got leg talent the same way Patrick mahomes has arm talent, to hear it told. 

It's not just one kind of kick either, he has a lot of different tools in his tool box. Lots of different types of spin based on field position. 

I can't wait to see him punt in person during the preseason. Punting is an art form and one that can only be appreciated from the 2nd deck lol 

Plus he's pretty big as far as punters go and supposedly pretty tough so he may be able to run some fakes for us. Anytime you can give Shanahan extra possessions, you are going to have a good chance to win. 

with a DL of Buckner, bosa, Dee Ford etc you would hope punts inside the 5 could lead to some negative plays for the other team 

At least, that's how it better turn out if you don't have a deep roster, win 4 goddamn games and then take a 27 year old punter with pick #110 the following year 

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Unfortunately without a developmental league or any way of showcasing on-field talent they won't get a scholarship to a university and the shelf life of the average player is so short that teams probably dont want to or have the time to take someone who is that raw with 0 on-field time and develop them to even a PS guy

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It will continue to be incredibly rare for a player to go directly from playing football outside the USA to being drafted/ signed by an NFL team. The level of competition is simply not good enough to make it a regular thing.

Off the top of my head, only Boeringher and Efe Obada have made it directly from playing football in Europe to the NFL without the help of the NFL international player pathway programme. 

The goal for teams in Europe should be to send players to college in the states. There’s a few good European prospects coming through that have went the JUCO route and are now playing D1. That’s the only way of having a reasonable shot of making it to the NFL.

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21 hours ago, Boknows34 said:

Christian Wade is an English international in rugby union who signed for the Buffalo Bills a few months ago as a running back.

Wade is an explosive and elusive 5-8 scatback type runner with good vision and cutting ability. He played rugby at the highest level and will be on the Bills practice squad this season as part of the NFL’s International Player Pathway programme. 

For an NFL comparison think of him as rugby’s version of Tarik Cohen. 

 

I really wish he'd have made the move in his England Under 20's days & pursued a spot on a college roster. I don't want to be negative, but at 28 he really left his run late.

Rugby League player Valentine Holmes (Currently with the Jets) probably has a better chance simply due to being 4 years younger. It's a shame as imo Wade is the more explosive / dynamic athlete.

 Wade may have been an even better football player than rugby player due to it being a better fit for his athleticism. 

(In saying that, I hope he proves me wrong & makes it to the active roster for a year or two)

Edited by Marc MacGyver

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I forgot what it was called, but the NFL did something awhile back where all 4 teams in a division got an international player they were required to keep on the practice squad but couldn't call-up (I think?).  NFC South was one of those divisions and that's how we got Efe Obada, who contributed a little bit last year.

I wonder if they will bring that back.

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