BigC421/ Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 53 minutes ago, YogiBiz said: You don't like Kennard?! I think he could develop into an 18/5Ast/4 Reb 2 while splitting 45/40/90? The Knicks will give you Kevin Knox and #38 if that's the case lol He improved a lot last year but he’s on the last year of his contract and has all the makings of a guy that someone will drastically overpay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YogiBiz Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 11 minutes ago, BigC421/ said: He improved a lot last year but he’s on the last year of his contract and has all the makings of a guy that someone will drastically overpay I'd pay Kennard 12-15mil per year. Especially when Fournier made 17M/Year with a much lower cap (even if this one drops at the most 12 mil). Kennard gives you the same shooting plus playmaking. I think at most he gets a contract similar to Fournier whom also had injury concerns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sllim Pickens Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 1 hour ago, YogiBiz said: You don't like Kennard?! I think he could develop into an 18/5Ast/4 Reb 2 while splitting 45/40/90? The Knicks will give you Kevin Knox and #38 if that's the case lol I don't think Kennard is anything special. He has had the chance to be the star scorer on a bad team and still only managed 15 a game. He is efficient but he is a solid role player, not someone to build around. On a good team he would be a Kyle Korver type that can compliment a couple star players well but he wont ever be a star player. He likely however will require more money than a Korver type and will continue to score 15-18 on a team that doesn't make the playoffs. I am guessing he gets traded this year because he wont be worth the contract he likely will get so might as well get something. I'm hoping we can snag a late first from a contender at the deadline for him or a future pick with potential to have some value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted November 6, 2020 Author Share Posted November 6, 2020 2 hours ago, Sllim Pickens said: I don't think Kennard is anything special. He has had the chance to be the star scorer on a bad team and still only managed 15 a game. He is efficient but he is a solid role player, not someone to build around. On a good team he would be a Kyle Korver type that can compliment a couple star players well but he wont ever be a star player. He likely however will require more money than a Korver type and will continue to score 15-18 on a team that doesn't make the playoffs. I am guessing he gets traded this year because he wont be worth the contract he likely will get so might as well get something. I'm hoping we can snag a late first from a contender at the deadline for him or a future pick with potential to have some value. Warriors receive: Derrick Rose, Luke Kennard, #7 Pistons receive: Jordan Poole, #2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted November 6, 2020 Author Share Posted November 6, 2020 4 hours ago, Sllim Pickens said: Its tough being a fan of bad teams, but its even tougher when bad teams have players you really don't like, and thats where I am with the Pistons. I like Sekou, I don't really care about anyone else on that roster and if they add Ball it will make me even less interested. One positive in potentially taking Ball is that it probably ensures you're bad enough to be in position to draft Cunningham, Kuminga, or Green in 2021. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sllim Pickens Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 Just now, NYRaider said: Warriors receive: Derrick Rose, Luke Kennard, #7 Pistons receive: Jordan Poole, #2 I would be ok with this but not to take Ball, which is what I am afraid would happen. However having Ball be the PG on our team would likely lead to a top 3 pick each of the next few years so I guess it has potential. I do think in general I would rather have Rose Kennard and Hayes/Halliburton/Wiseman than Poole and Ball. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sllim Pickens Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 1 minute ago, NYRaider said: One positive in potentially taking Ball is that it probably ensures you're bad enough to be in position to draft Cunningham, Kuminga, or Green in 2021. You must have been typing it as I was typing the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted November 6, 2020 Author Share Posted November 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Sllim Pickens said: You must have been typing it as I was typing the same thing. Detroit purposely wiff's on their picks in 2020 and 2021 so they can draft Bates in 2022. #MasterPlan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11sanchez11 Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 i'm completely fine with bane at 10, tho i still like cole and kira more. maybe even maxey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 1 minute ago, 11sanchez11 said: i'm completely fine with bane at 10, tho i still like cole and kira more. maybe even maxey Is that the rumor now? God damn this draft is going to be nuts. Really hoping one of the isolation scoring type PGs or combo guards makes it to 24, assuming we keep that pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11sanchez11 Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, beekay414 said: Is that the rumor now? God damn this draft is going to be nuts. Really hoping one of the isolation scoring type PGs or combo guards makes it to 24, assuming we keep that pick. no but i follow a bunch of suns fans who want him so it's kinda of a thing lol plus ppl think he is an option just because we took cam last year (JJ's only draft so far) and they think it is his type 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 https://tradenba.com/mock-drafts/epCLD7hYRFirst Round 1. Minnesota - LaMelo Ball | PG | Illawarra 2. Golden State - James Wiseman | C | Memphis 3. Charlotte - Anthony Edwards | GF | Georgia 4. Chicago - Killian Hayes | PG | Ulm 5. Cleveland - Obi Toppin | PF | Dayton 6. Atlanta - Tyrese Haliburton | PG | Iowa State 7. Detroit - Patrick Williams | F | Florida State 8. NY Knicks - Deni Avdija | F | Maccabi Tel Aviv 9. Washington - Onyeka Okongwu | C | USC 10. Phoenix - Kira Lewis Jr | PG | Alabama 11. San Antonio - Devin Vassell | SG | Florida State 12. Sacramento - Aaron Nesmith | GF | Vanderbilt 13. New Orleans - Jalen Smith | FC | Maryland 14. Boston (via MEM) - Precious Achiuwa | FC | Memphis 15. Orlando - Tyrell Terry | PG | Stanford 16. Portland - Isaac Okoro | SF | Auburn 17. Minnesota (via BKN) - Saddiq Bey | F | Villanova 18. Dallas - Josh Green | SG | Arizona 19. Brooklyn (via PHI) - Jaden McDaniels | F | Washington 20. Miami - Tyrese Maxey | SG | Kentucky 21. Philadelphia (via OKC) - RJ Hampton | PG | NZ Breakers 22. Denver (via HOU) - Aleksej Pokusevski | FC | Olympiacos 23. Utah - Tyler Bey | F | Colorado 24. Milwaukee (via IND) - Cole Anthony | PG | UNC 25. OKC (via DEN) - Udoka Azubuike | C | Kansas 26. Boston - Xavier Tillman | C | Michigan State 27. NY Knicks (via LAC) - Desmond Bane | SG | TCU 28. LA Lakers - Isaiah Stewart | C | Washington 29. Toronto - Payton Pritchard | PG | Oregon 30. Boston (via MIL) - Robert Woodard II | SF | Mississippi State Second Round 31. Dallas (via GSW) - Daniel Oturu | C | Minnesota 32. Charlotte (via CLE) - Cassius Winston | PG | Michigan State 33. Minnesota - Jahmi'us Ramsey | SG | Texas Tech 34. Philadelphia (via ATL) - Leandro Bolmaro | SG | Barcelona 35. Sacramento (via DET) - Zeke Nnaji | C | Arizona 36. Philadelphia (via NYK) - Paul Reed | PF | DePaul 37. Washington (via CHI) - Ty-Shon Alexander | PG | Creighton 38. NY Knicks (via CHA) - Nico Mannion | PG | Arizona 39. New Orleans (via WAS) - Caleb Wesson | C | Ohio State 40. Memphis (via PHX) - Theo Maledon | PG | ASVEL 41. San Antonio - Malachi Flynn | PG | San Diego State 42. New Orleans - Tre Jones | PG | Duke 43. Sacramento - Devon Dotson | PG | Kansas 44. Chicago (via MEM) - Killian Tillie | FC | Gonzaga 45. Orlando - Cassius Stanley | SG | Duke 46. Portland - Mamadi Diakite | PF | Virginia 47. Boston (via BKN) - Yam Madar | PG | Hapoel Tel Aviv 48. Golden State (via DAL) - Isaiah Joe | SG | Arkansas 49. Philadelphia - Rokas Jokubaitis | PG | Zalgiris 50. Atlanta (via MIA) - Jordan Nwora | PF | Louisville 51. Golden State (via UTA) - Grant Riller | G | Charleston 52. Sacramento (via HOU) - Vernon Carey Jr | FC | Duke 53. Oklahoma City - Immanuel Quickley | PG | Kentucky 54. Indiana - Reggie Perry | FC | Mississippi State 55. Brooklyn (via DEN) - Nate Darling | SG | Delaware 56. Charlotte (via BOS) - Elijah Hughes | SG | Syracuse 57. LA Clippers - Ashton Hagans | PG | Kentucky 58. Philadelphia (via LAL) - Paul Eboua | PF | Victoria Libertas Pesaro 59. Toronto - Jay Scrubb | SG | John A Logan College 60. New Orleans (via MIL) - Abdoulaye N'doye | PG | AS Monaco 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 This draft is really hard to peg down who is a 1st rounder and who is a 2nd rounder, so I'm just doing random selections at this point (ex: Riller falling to 51). Tried to do the lottery based on what I'm seeing online but who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YogiBiz Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 4 hours ago, beekay414 said: https://tradenba.com/mock-drafts/epCLD7hYR 8. NY Knicks - Deni Avdija | F | Maccabi Tel Aviv 27. NY Knicks (via LAC) - Desmond Bane | SG | TCU 38. NY Knicks (via CHA) - Nico Mannion | PG | Arizona The Knicks schmoney dance all the way to the bank. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sllim Pickens Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 I would really hope the Pistons would go with Avdija in that situation but I have heard the Williams rumors as well. We need high upside darts at this point and Williams is not that IMO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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