Mox Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 1 minute ago, NYRaider said: Giannis was +1.8 in ppg and +1.0 in apg. Obviously, he was more efficient inside the arc but that's to be expected considering he had one of the most well-constructed teams in the league around him. It's a small sample size but to average only 2 fewer points and 1 less assist while carrying a much worse offensive team isn't that far off, IMO. Wow. It's REALLY hard to take you seriously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Bullet Club said: Wow. It's REALLY hard to take you seriously. 26.5 ppg | 4.8 apg | 1.1 spg is extremely far off of 28.3 ppg | 5.8 apg | 1.3 spg? Edited July 14, 2019 by NYRaider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mox Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 5 minutes ago, NYRaider said: 26.5 ppg | 4.8 apg | 1.1 spg is extremely far off of 28.3 ppg | 5.8 apg | 1.3 spg? Way to cherry pick the only stats that are close and he still loses while playing more and being significantly less efficient. Very dishonest posting. The caliber of player is light years away. If you don't see it you don't know basketball. Seriously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 23 minutes ago, Bullet Club said: Way to cherry pick the only stats that are close and he still loses while playing more and being significantly less efficient. Very dishonest posting. The caliber of player is light years away. If you don't see it you don't know basketball. Seriously. I acknowledged that he was less efficient inside the arc. We're comparing the league MVP to a 2nd year player. Mitchell will only continue to get better and it's not far fetched to say he can be an MVP caliber player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mox Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 6 minutes ago, NYRaider said: I acknowledged that he was less efficient inside the arc. We're comparing the league MVP to a 2nd year player. Mitchell will only continue to get better and it's not far fetched to say he can be an MVP caliber player. It is far fetched to say he's not far off from 2019 Giannis though. There is well over a 90% chance Mitchell is never as good as GA was last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Bullet Club said: It is far fetched to say he's not far off from 2019 Giannis though. There is well over a 90% chance Mitchell is never as good as GA was last year. We’ll have to wait and see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mox Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 26 minutes ago, NYRaider said: We’ll have to wait and see. There is no waiting. It already happened. They're on different planets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 19 minutes ago, Bullet Club said: There is no waiting. It already happened. They're on different planets. Mitchell as a 2nd year player is worlds better than Giannis was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, NYRaider said: Mitchell as a 2nd year player is worlds better than Giannis was. Why don't we compare them at 22 years old, hey? Giannis came in as an 18 year old, super raw player. Mitchell spent two years in college ffs. Giannis (22 years old): 22.9 PTS (15.7 shots per game), 8.8 REB, 5.4 AST, 1.6 STL, 1.9 BLK on 52.1/27.2/77.0 shooting, 54.1 eFG%, 116 O RTG, 104 D RTG, 6.9 VORP, 7.6 BPM, 12.4 WS, 26.1 PER, 59.9% TS%Mitchell (22 years old): 23.8 PTS (19.9 shots per game), 4.1 REB, 4.2 AST, 1.4 STL, 0.4 BLK on 43.2/36.2/80.6 shooting, 49.3 eFG%, 104 O RTG, 107 D RTG, 1.7 VORP, 0.6 BPM, 5.0 WS, 17.2 PER, 53.7 TS% Not even on the same planet lmao Edited July 14, 2019 by beekay414 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Brown Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 3 hours ago, NYRaider said: So what's the issue if I speak facts about Tatum and Brown? I actually like Tatum but Brown sucks. Coming from the same mind who said Rondo sucked, we good here homie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 10 minutes ago, beekay414 said: Why don't we compare them at 22 years old, hey? Giannis came in as an 18 year old, super raw player. Mitchell spent two years in college ffs. Giannis (22 years old): 22.9 PTS (15.7 shots per game), 8.8 REB, 5.4 AST, 1.6 STL, 1.9 BLK on 52.1/27.2/77.0 shooting, 54.1 eFG%, 116 O RTG, 104 D RTG, 6.9 VORP, 7.6 BPM, 12.4 WS, 26.1 PER, 59.9% TS%Mitchell (22 years old): 23.8 PTS (19.9 shots per game), 4.1 REB, 4.2 AST, 1.4 STL, 0.4 BLK on 43.2/36.2/80.6 shooting, 49.3 eFG%, 104 O RTG, 107 D RTG, 1.7 VORP, 0.6 BPM, 5.0 WS, 17.2 PER, 53.7 TS% Not even on the same planet lmao Why don't we compare 2nd year statistics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 6 minutes ago, Troy Brown said: Coming from the same mind who said Rondo sucked, we good here homie I never said that Rondo sucked just that Ainge isn't very good at drafting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 Just now, NYRaider said: Why don't we compare 2nd year statistics? I literally stated it above. Giannis came into the league as an 18 year old, super raw player. Donovan Mitchell spent two years at Louisville and came in as a plug and play player. It's nowhere near the same. If you want to be completely disingenuous, which is basically how you post, sure, go right ahead. Then I'll come back with the advance metrics, the usage difference and how advanced stats had them having the exact same impact despite Mitchell getting significantly more usage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 Donovan Mitchell has never been, nor will he ever be, as good as Giannis Antetokounmpo. Nothing in his numbers suggest it. Nothing in his overall game suggests it. It's really that simple. Now can we friggin' move on already, or do you wanna derail this thread the entire weekend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Brown Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 Quote Sullinger wasn't a big time bust lol wtf Lucas Nogueira was never a celtic lmao Why are you stopping at 2012? Guess we won't talk about Al Jefferson, Delonte West, Tony Allen, Rajon Rondo, Kendrick Perkins, Gerald Green, Ryan Gomes, Avery Bradley, ETuan Moore, Semi Ojeleye, Kelly Olynyk, or Abdel Nader you're funny You telling me a dude who has been drafting since 2003 has missed some picks? On 7/12/2019 at 9:04 AM, NYRaider said: All of these players suck. You’re really giving names like Ryan Gomes, Semi Ojeleye and Abdul Nader as reasons he’s good at drafting? Has he ever draftedvan All Star? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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