vegas492 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 21 minutes ago, Golfman said: Not disputing he can play in this league. I'm just not certain we'd keep him at 5 million as a back up. That doesn't seem sound fiscally, given we need to get Martinez done and King and Clark would be wise too IMO. Of course, I'm also thinking we are taking an OT in this upcoming draft with or without a Bulaga extension. I get your logic. 100%. I think whether or not Lane is back has more to do with Cole Madison's development than it does a $5M cap charge. That $5M is a lot of "sleep" insurance on the OL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfman Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Just now, vegas492 said: I get your logic. 100%. I think whether or not Lane is back has more to do with Cole Madison's development than it does a $5M cap charge. That $5M is a lot of "sleep" insurance on the OL. I actually think Lucas Patrick is ahead of him on the depth chart. Might not be next year however. Another question, is it easier to find a center or a guard? Might sound crazy but Jenkins is a center by trade and next year is Linsley's last of his contract too. I like LInsley a lot, but he'd be 30 when his next deal is due. Just spit balling and have no basis other than for discussion sake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 58 minutes ago, vegas492 said: I still think that Lane would be great depth, but I can see taking his cap space and hoping that Madison or Patrick or some other young kid can be a capable back up. Jenkins is clearly a better player, but Lane is no slouch either. He can start in the league. With a $5M cap hit, it's hard to justify him sitting on the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 27 minutes ago, Golfman said: I actually think Lucas Patrick is ahead of him on the depth chart. Might not be next year however. Another question, is it easier to find a center or a guard? Might sound crazy but Jenkins is a center by trade and next year is Linsley's last of his contract too. I like LInsley a lot, but he'd be 30 when his next deal is due. Just spit balling and have no basis other than for discussion sake. It would be interesting to get a candid conversation about where the Packers view Elgton Jenkins' future position. By all accounts, he's holding down that LG spot very well but he's played majority of his career snaps at Mississippi State as a center. Is this a situation where they actually view him as a guard moving forward, or do they transition him to center at some point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Just now, CWood21 said: It would be interesting to get a candid conversation about where the Packers view Elgton Jenkins' future position. By all accounts, he's holding down that LG spot very well but he's played majority of his career snaps at Mississippi State as a center. Is this a situation where they actually view him as a guard moving forward, or do they transition him to center at some point? Much harder to find a good Guard than a good Center Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Just now, AlexGreen#20 said: Much harder to find a good Guard than a good Center Haven't really dug into draft success in breaking down the OL positions, but I'm a bit skeptical that the success rate is all that much different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBURGE Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 20 minutes ago, CWood21 said: 22 minutes ago, AlexGreen#20 said: Much harder to find a good Guard than a good Center Haven't really dug into draft success in breaking down the OL positions, but I'm a bit skeptical that the success rate is all that much different. I'm curious @AlexGreen#20 as well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 15 minutes ago, JBURGE said: I'm curious @AlexGreen#20 as well... @Packerraymond Centers can be undersized. That makes a massive difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 44 minutes ago, CWood21 said: With a $5M cap hit, it's hard to justify him sitting on the bench. Is that really a high price tag to pay for a #6 OL? I say no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfman Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, AlexGreen#20 said: @Packerraymond Centers can be undersized. That makes a massive difference. No pun intended right! If that is the case do we have Linsley's replacement in Patrick Lucas already on the roster? If we can consistently get him to snap the ball to the quarterback rather than the running back he play OK the other week. I know that is one small random sample. Edited October 16, 2019 by Golfman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Golfman said: No pun intended right! If that is the case do we have Linsley's replacement in Patrick Lucas already on the roster? If we can consistently get him to snap the ball to the quarterback rather than the running back he play OK the other week. I know that is one small random sample. That question depends on how important the Center position is to you. Patrick isn't going to kill you, but nobody is going to confuse him for Linsley either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfman Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 47 minutes ago, CWood21 said: It would be interesting to get a candid conversation about where the Packers view Elgton Jenkins' future position. By all accounts, he's holding down that LG spot very well but he's played majority of his career snaps at Mississippi State as a center. Is this a situation where they actually view him as a guard moving forward, or do they transition him to center at some point? I think that depends on where they find themselves at center in 2021 and if a guy like Madison makes a leap where you are very comfortable with him starting at guard. Does that conversation take place in 2020 and we let Linsley go for cap reasons knowing we don't intend to give a 30 year old the extension he's going to want and deserve. The latter seems a risky proposition without knowing you have Jenkins replacement locked in at LG. Taylor is OK, but he was not good early this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfman Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, AlexGreen#20 said: That question depends on how important the Center position is to you. Patrick isn't going to kill you, but nobody is going to confuse him for Linsley either. I have no idea what Patrick's upside is at either guard or center but believe game action will make him a better player. What that turns out to be is debatable for sure. Is he Tretter or Evan Dietrick-Smith? I'd be OK with Tretter but not EDS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBURGE Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 52 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: 1 hour ago, CWood21 said: With a $5M cap hit, it's hard to justify him sitting on the bench. Is that really a high price tag to pay for a #6 OL? I say no. As long as OL 7-9/10 are on rookie deals, then sure! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uffdaswede Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 3 hours ago, vegas492 said: Now you are making me wish I knew who Gale Gillingham was/is..... Looks like I'll have to use the google.... Ha ha...I suppose that would have been like some old guy referencing Mike Michalski when I was younger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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