ET80 Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 54 minutes ago, Forge said: Secondarily, I know it was partially injury related (and partially Arian Foster related), but I think that Steve Slaton could be included in this type of group as well. That first year, he was completely amazing. Slaton had a neck injury that never healed up correctly - it impacted his ability to grip the ball correctly (amongst other things) and he just vanished into oblivion. How about Rashean Mathis? He was a pretty good CB, looked like he was on his way to becoming a top 5 CB back in the days for Jacksonville. Then one day, you never heard from him again. Never sure how his career finished out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelersfan43 Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 33 minutes ago, ET80 said: Slaton had a neck injury that never healed up correctly - it impacted his ability to grip the ball correctly (amongst other things) and he just vanished into oblivion. How about Rashean Mathis? He was a pretty good CB, looked like he was on his way to becoming a top 5 CB back in the days for Jacksonville. Then one day, you never heard from him again. Never sure how his career finished out. Rashead Mathis, the player who almost always had a pick 6 against Roethlisberger at every game the steelers were playing against the Jags when Mathis was there ?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renndawg37 Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 2 hours ago, ET80 said: Slaton had a neck injury that never healed up correctly - it impacted his ability to grip the ball correctly (amongst other things) and he just vanished into oblivion. How about Rashean Mathis? He was a pretty good CB, looked like he was on his way to becoming a top 5 CB back in the days for Jacksonville. Then one day, you never heard from him again. Never sure how his career finished out. Apparently Mathis is an extremely good golfer now lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedTheClock Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 3 hours ago, Kiwibrown said: Cribbs ran high through contact, got blasted every game, injuries caught up to him. Yeah but he was never really bad enough or good enough to be on this list. His dropoff wasn’t really sudden nor was it unexpected. Plus the NFL nerfed kick returns which essentially ruined the careers of guys like Cribbs. Why even bother giving pure returners spots on your 53? Cribbs was a decent WR and elite cover man/gunner on our kick unite as well. He was always a good returner even in his later years. He just didn’t have as many explosive sports center returns with us towards the end. When he lost his usage he was close to 30 after taking a pounding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nex_Gen Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 Kenny Phillips Major Wright Shane Vereen Tracy Porter Nmandi Asomugha Manti Te'o BJ Raji Phil Taylor Come to mind .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 4 hours ago, BleedTheClock said: Yeah but he was never really bad enough or good enough to be on this list. His dropoff wasn’t really sudden nor was it unexpected. Plus the NFL nerfed kick returns which essentially ruined the careers of guys like Cribbs. Why even bother giving pure returners spots on your 53? Cribbs was a decent WR and elite cover man/gunner on our kick unite as well. He was always a good returner even in his later years. He just didn’t have as many explosive sports center returns with us towards the end. When he lost his usage he was close to 30 after taking a pounding. He's now a coaching assistant in Houston, part of an NFL program that helps players transition from playing to coaching. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman(DH23) Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 17 hours ago, ET80 said: Kendall Wright comes to mind - going into that draft, I was arguing with a few Texans fans/Baylor alumni on who was the better player between Wright and Alshon Jeffrey. I heard a bunch of junk about how Wright was the 1st round pick, so he'd OBVIOUSLY be better, but...I think we can unequivocally state that Jeffrey had/has the better career. Wright never really took off as a good player, just no sort of fit in the league - a quicker than fast sort of guy who wasn't really quick or fast by NFL standards. 2 years ago Wright was the Bears best receiver. Let that sink in. That was the kind of trash Tru had to deal with as a rookie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman(DH23) Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 6 hours ago, Nex_Gen said: Kenny Phillips Major Wright Shane Vereen Tracy Porter Nmandi Asomugha Manti Te'o BJ Raji Phil Taylor Come to mind .. Major Wright was ok as a S in a Tampa 2, and I believe he was still in Tampa last year. Scrabble was considered the leagues best man to man corner, then went to Philly and looked like trash in zone. Questions arise was Scrabble that good in Oak, or was the other Chris Johnson that bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom cody Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 Nmandi for me. For the longest time he looked to be the next great defensive player in the NFL. Then nothing from him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apparition Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 Desmond Bryant Alterraun Verner Ryan Mathews Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkippyX Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 How about Brian Griese? He had no shot following Elway in 1999 but in 2000 he put up a 100+ rating season and went 7-3 and the Broncos went back to the playoffs. He actually led the league at 102.9 He followed that up with 8 years of about 80 rating QB play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkippyX Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 35 minutes ago, tom cody said: Nmandi for me. For the longest time he looked to be the next great defensive player in the NFL. Then nothing from him. He's got to be on a top 20 list for worst fits in free agency. He was so bad for that 2011 Dream Team (Thanks, Vince Young) I'm not sure how you get Nnamdi, Asante Samuel, and DRC to be a terrible CB group, but they were. (24th in passing TDs allowed) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelersfan43 Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 1 hour ago, SkippyX said: He's got to be on a top 20 list for worst fits in free agency. He was so bad for that 2011 Dream Team (Thanks, Vince Young) I'm not sure how you get Nnamdi, Asante Samuel, and DRC to be a terrible CB group, but they were. (24th in passing TDs allowed) The worst mistake Andy Reid made in his career was to put an O-line coach as DC ... It had no chance to work. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelersfan43 Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 1 hour ago, SkippyX said: How about Brian Griese? He had no shot following Elway in 1999 but in 2000 he put up a 100+ rating season and went 7-3 and the Broncos went back to the playoffs. He actually led the league at 102.9 He followed that up with 8 years of about 80 rating QB play. The Bears would have had a better chance to win the super bowl in 2006 if Lovie Smith would benched Rex Grossman after so many atrocious game and put Brian Griese as QB. Another example that you can not always judge a QB on the Win-Loss record .... You have to make a change at the QB position if your QB is awful, even if you are 9-2 or something like that .. In 2006, Grossman was hot in September (player of the month in the NFC) but from the game against the Cardinals, Grossman has had so many awful game. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/G/GrosRe00/gamelog/2006/ 5 games with a QB rating of 36 or less in his last 11 games!!! ... Grossman should have been benched after the game against the Vikings when he had a QB rating of 1.3 or something like that.What is funny is that the Bears had still won this game easily, 23-13 despite an awful game for Grossman (6-19 34 yards, 0 TD 3 INT) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August4th Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 what players do you guys see being mentioned in a thread like this in a few years? I got Martavis Bryant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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