Dome Posted August 2, 2019 Author Share Posted August 2, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, rackcs said: I'm in Glad to hear it. I’ll finish up all the fine-tuned rules during this preseason. The custom scoring is about done, I’ve been tweaking it every night and going back to look at how the tweaks change last years points leaders. I’m struggling to find a way to incorporate DBs fairly because they’re impossible in fantasy due to stats meaning almost nothing to the position as far as grading performances go. but if nothing else, the top end DL and LBers are matching up point-wise to the top end QBs, WRs and RBs (with the current scoring I’ve worked out, Aaron Donald scored slightly more points than Mahomes this year. Guys like JJ Watt, Kuechly, Bobby Wagner, Fletcher Cox and Danielle Hunter are all scoring similarly to guys Brees, Kamara, Thomas ETC on that side of the ball) so if nothing else defensive players will actually mean something in this league. Before the tweaks you had Aaron Donald worth like half the points Mahomes was, and that ain’t cool Edited August 2, 2019 by Dome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dome Posted August 3, 2019 Author Share Posted August 3, 2019 10 hours ago, Dome said: I think I’m gonna bump all-pro selections to a 4 year ban and pro-bowl to a 2 year ban. Hoping to have 125-150 players ineligible each season. A handful more would be added with this adjustment. I did this... added 4 years for an All-Pro Naming and 2 Year for a pro bowl. the list is much more..... comprehensive. I like this better, it added some big names the original scan missed. QB RB WR TE K/P Aaron Rodgers Adrian Peterson Adam Thielen Austin Hooper Aldrick Rosas Alex Smith Alvin Kamara AJ Green Delanie Walker Brett Kern Andrew Luck Anthony Sherman Allen Robinson Eric Ebron Chris Boswell Ben Roethlisberger Christian McCaffrey Amari Cooper George Kittle Dan Bailey Cam Newton Cordarrelle Patterson Andre Roberts Greg Olsen Graham Gano Carson Wentz David Johnson Antonio Brown Jack Doyle Greg Zuerlein Dak Prescott Devonta Freeman Davante Adams Jared Cook Jason Myers Derek Carr Doug Martin Deandre Hopkins Jimmy Graham Johnny Hecker Deshaun Watson Eddie Lacy Doug Baldwin Kyle Rudolph Justin Tucker Drew Brees Ezekiel Elliot Jarvis Landry Rob Gronkowski Marquette King Jared Goff James Conner JuJu Smith-Schuster Travis Kelce Michael Dickson Matt Ryan James Devlin Julio Jones Zach Ertz Sam Koch Mitch Trubisky Kareem Hunt Keenan Allen Stephen Gostkowski Pat Mahomes Kyle Juszczyk Larry Fitzgerald Philip Rivers Lamar Miller Matthew Slater Russell Wilson LeSean McCoy Michael Thomas Tom Brady Leveon Bell Mike Evans Mark Ingram Odell Beckham Jr. Melvin Gordon Pharoah Cooper Mike Tolbert TY Hilton Patrick DiMarco Tyler Lockett Phillip Lindsay Tyreek Hill Roosevelt Nix Saquon Barkley Tarik Cohen Todd Gurley Edge Interior D-Line LB CB S Brandon Graham Aaron Donald Alec Ogletree A.J. Bouye Adrian Phillips Calais Campbell Akiem Hicks Anthony Barr Aqib Talib Brynden Trawick Cameron Heyward Brandon Williams Benardrick McKinney Byron Jones Budda Baker Cameron Jordan Cameron Heyward Bobby Wagner Casey Hayward Devin McCourtey Cameron Wake Chris Jones C.J. Mosley Chris Harris Jr Dewin James Danielle Hunter Damon Harrison Chandler Jones Darius Slay Earl Thomas Dee Ford DeForest Buckner CJ Mosley Denzel Ward Eddie Jackson Demarcus Lawrence Fletcher Cox Cory Littleton Desmond King Eric Berry Everson Griffen Geno Atkins Darius Leonard Jalen Ramsey Eric Weddle Ezekiel Ansah Gerald McCoy Deion Jones Jamal Agnew Ha Ha Clinton-Dix Jadeveon Clowney Jurrell Casey Derrick Johnson Janoris Jenkins Harrison Smith JJ Watt Kawann Short Dont'a Hightower Josh Norman Jamal Adams Joey Bosa Kyle Williams Jadeveon Clowney Kyle Fuller Keanu Neal Khalil Mack Linval Joseph Jamie Collins Malcolm Butler Kevin Byard Melvin Ingram Malik Jackson Joe Schobert Marcus Peters Landon Collins Michael Bennett Mike Daniels Kwon Alexander Marshon Lattimore Malcolm Jenkins Myles Garrett Muhammad Wilkerson Lavonte David Patrick Peterson Micah Hyde Olivier Vernon Ndamukong Suh Leighton Vander Esch Richard Sherman Nate Ebner Ryan Kerrigan Sheldon Richardson Lorenzo Alexander Stephon Gilmore Reshad Jones T.J. Watt Luke Kuechly Xavien Howard Tyrann Mathieu Vic Beasley Navarro Bowman Xavier Rhodes Yannick Ngakoue Sean Lee Telvin Smith Terrell Suggs Thomas Davis Von Miller Whitney Mercilus Zach Brown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rackcs Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 Yikes, RB could be a bit dicey. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dome Posted August 3, 2019 Author Share Posted August 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, rackcs said: Yikes, RB could be a bit dicey. I'll remove the FBs. Maybe it'll be less intimidating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dome Posted August 3, 2019 Author Share Posted August 3, 2019 (edited) Wondering if maybe statistical cutoffs would be better. .... which is why this is all getting sorted out a year ahead of time lol Edited August 3, 2019 by Dome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dome Posted August 4, 2019 Author Share Posted August 4, 2019 (edited) Messing with the ineligibility criteria... getting to the stage where I'd like other peoples input, cause I can go many ways with this. Once I have this stuff finalized I can really start pumping this GM league as more than an idea. I think that will help people get more interested. Also if any of you are either still wavering on the idea or firm commits, knowing that would help me out. @Bigbear72 @sammymvpknight @theuntouchable @rackcs @Oregon Ducks I think I like performance based ineligibility better than award based, more uniform and not subjective. I'm just not sure how to carry it over for injury/suspension years. (IE if Saquon Barkley gets hurt and doesn't hit the marks for ineligibility this year, he shouldn't be made available next season because of that... everyone knows how good he is) The whole point of this league is to look deeper than known commodities in the NFL, so with the following criteria (if a player meets any of the criteria they're ineligible): QB - Top 10 Attempts, Yards, Pass TD, Rating (Minimum 224 passing attempts per PFR) RB - Top 15 Attempts, Scrim Yards, Rush TD WR - Top 20 Catches, Rec Yards, Rec TD TE - Top 10 Catches, Rec Yards, Rec TD The following players would be eliminated. It's a rather big list, but that was kind of what I was envisioning anyways. Aaron Rodgers Aaron Jones Adam Humphries Austin Hooper Andrew Luck Adrian Peterson Adam Thielen Cameron Brate Baker Mayfield Alex Collins Alshon Jeffery David Njoku Ben Roethlisberger Alvin Kamara Amari Cooper Eric Ebron Cam Newton Chris Carson Anthony Miller George Kittle Carson Wentz Christian McCaffrey Antonio Brown Jared Cook Case Keenum David Johnson Brandin Cooks Jimmy Graham Dak Prescott Derrick Henry Calvin Ridley Kyle Rudolph Derek Carr Ezekiel Elliott Chris Godwin O.J. Howard Deshaun Watson Isaiah Crowell Davante Adams Rob Gronkowski Drew Brees James Conner DeAndre Hopkins Travis Kelce Eli Manning Joe Mixon Emmanuel Sanders Trey Burton Jared Goff Jordan Howard Jarvis Landry Zach Ertz Kirk Cousins Kareem Hunt John Ross Matt Ryan Lamar Miller JuJu Smith-Schuster Matthew Stafford Latavius Murray Julian Edelman Mitchell Trubisky Mark Ingram Julio Jones Patrick Mahomes Marlon Mack Keenan Allen Philip Rivers Melvin Gordon Michael Thomas Russell Wilson Nick Chubb Mike Evans Ryan Fitzpatrick Peyton Barber Mike Williams Tom Brady Phillip Lindsay Odell Beckham Saquon Barkley Robert Woods Sony Michel Stefon Diggs Todd Gurley Sterling Shepard T.Y. Hilton Tyler Boyd Tyreek Hill Zay Jones Another thing.... in the spirit of making this more of a GM/Scouting league that uses fantasy scoring as opposed to an outright fantasy league, and in the spirit of all the fringe level players in this league what do you all feel about a "Practice Squad" scoring system where all Offensive/Defensive positions are superflex (qb/rb/wr/te) and you just get the best X performers on offense and defense rather than based on position? It'll make the lack of starting players (mainly QBs) in this league less of an issue. If all the good QBs are gone, you can just have another RB/WR/TE instead, like a practice squad. Thoughts, questions, comments, concerns? Edited August 4, 2019 by Dome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rackcs Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 I don't really have a preference between awards or stats. I think either way is fair and objective. I like the idea of the practice squad flex thing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbear72 Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 12 hours ago, Dome said: Messing with the ineligibility criteria... getting to the stage where I'd like other peoples input, cause I can go many ways with this. Once I have this stuff finalized I can really start pumping this GM league as more than an idea. I think that will help people get more interested. Also if any of you are either still wavering on the idea or firm commits, knowing that would help me out. @Bigbear72 @sammymvpknight @theuntouchable @rackcs @Oregon Ducks I think I like performance based ineligibility better than award based, more uniform and not subjective. I'm just not sure how to carry it over for injury/suspension years. (IE if Saquon Barkley gets hurt and doesn't hit the marks for ineligibility this year, he shouldn't be made available next season because of that... everyone knows how good he is) The whole point of this league is to look deeper than known commodities in the NFL, so with the following criteria (if a player meets any of the criteria they're ineligible): QB - Top 10 Attempts, Yards, Pass TD, Rating (Minimum 224 passing attempts per PFR) RB - Top 15 Attempts, Scrim Yards, Rush TD WR - Top 20 Catches, Rec Yards, Rec TD TE - Top 10 Catches, Rec Yards, Rec TD The following players would be eliminated. It's a rather big list, but that was kind of what I was envisioning anyways. Aaron Rodgers Aaron Jones Adam Humphries Austin Hooper Andrew Luck Adrian Peterson Adam Thielen Cameron Brate Baker Mayfield Alex Collins Alshon Jeffery David Njoku Ben Roethlisberger Alvin Kamara Amari Cooper Eric Ebron Cam Newton Chris Carson Anthony Miller George Kittle Carson Wentz Christian McCaffrey Antonio Brown Jared Cook Case Keenum David Johnson Brandin Cooks Jimmy Graham Dak Prescott Derrick Henry Calvin Ridley Kyle Rudolph Derek Carr Ezekiel Elliott Chris Godwin O.J. Howard Deshaun Watson Isaiah Crowell Davante Adams Rob Gronkowski Drew Brees James Conner DeAndre Hopkins Travis Kelce Eli Manning Joe Mixon Emmanuel Sanders Trey Burton Jared Goff Jordan Howard Jarvis Landry Zach Ertz Kirk Cousins Kareem Hunt John Ross Matt Ryan Lamar Miller JuJu Smith-Schuster Matthew Stafford Latavius Murray Julian Edelman Mitchell Trubisky Mark Ingram Julio Jones Patrick Mahomes Marlon Mack Keenan Allen Philip Rivers Melvin Gordon Michael Thomas Russell Wilson Nick Chubb Mike Evans Ryan Fitzpatrick Peyton Barber Mike Williams Tom Brady Phillip Lindsay Odell Beckham Saquon Barkley Robert Woods Sony Michel Stefon Diggs Todd Gurley Sterling Shepard T.Y. Hilton Tyler Boyd Tyreek Hill Zay Jones Another thing.... in the spirit of making this more of a GM/Scouting league that uses fantasy scoring as opposed to an outright fantasy league, and in the spirit of all the fringe level players in this league what do you all feel about a "Practice Squad" scoring system where all Offensive/Defensive positions are superflex (qb/rb/wr/te) and you just get the best X performers on offense and defense rather than based on position? It'll make the lack of starting players (mainly QBs) in this league less of an issue. If all the good QBs are gone, you can just have another RB/WR/TE instead, like a practice squad. Thoughts, questions, comments, concerns? I'm ok with stats. I think you may need to tweak it a little. Going off of the above you have eliminated 20+ QBs. That doesn't leave a lot o meat on the bone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dome Posted August 5, 2019 Author Share Posted August 5, 2019 11 hours ago, Bigbear72 said: I'm ok with stats. I think you may need to tweak it a little. Going off of the above you have eliminated 20+ QBs. That doesn't leave a lot o meat on the bone. That's kind of the intention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dome Posted August 5, 2019 Author Share Posted August 5, 2019 (edited) Looking at some player scores @Bigbear72 the lack of QBs will only be an issue if we go with a standard lineup. if people like the “practice squad” lineup then people lacking in QBs can load up at other positions instead, if not I’ll tone down everything just a little. Depends how “developmental” people want to go with this league Edited August 5, 2019 by Dome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbear72 Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 3 hours ago, Dome said: Looking at some player scores @Bigbear72 the lack of QBs will only be an issue if we go with a standard lineup. if people like the “practice squad” lineup then people lacking in QBs can load up at other positions instead, if not I’ll tone down everything just a little. Depends how “developmental” people want to go with this league Fair enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oregon Ducks Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 On 8/2/2019 at 4:23 PM, Dome said: Glad to hear it. I’ll finish up all the fine-tuned rules during this preseason. The custom scoring is about done, I’ve been tweaking it every night and going back to look at how the tweaks change last years points leaders. I’m struggling to find a way to incorporate DBs fairly because they’re impossible in fantasy due to stats meaning almost nothing to the position as far as grading performances go. but if nothing else, the top end DL and LBers are matching up point-wise to the top end QBs, WRs and RBs (with the current scoring I’ve worked out, Aaron Donald scored slightly more points than Mahomes this year. Guys like JJ Watt, Kuechly, Bobby Wagner, Fletcher Cox and Danielle Hunter are all scoring similarly to guys Brees, Kamara, Thomas ETC on that side of the ball) so if nothing else defensive players will actually mean something in this league. Before the tweaks you had Aaron Donald worth like half the points Mahomes was, and that ain’t cool Hmm...never been in a league like this but it could go awesome...or not. IDP scares me tbh lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dome Posted August 5, 2019 Author Share Posted August 5, 2019 2 hours ago, Oregon Ducks said: Hmm...never been in a league like this but it could go awesome...or not. IDP scares me tbh lol If we get this going and people don’t like it we can always switch to an offense only league. I just don’t like the idea of defensive squads in a league meant for individual scouting/team building Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbear72 Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 18 hours ago, Dome said: If we get this going and people don’t like it we can always switch to an offense only league. I just don’t like the idea of defensive squads in a league meant for individual scouting/team building My main league is IDP and once you understand what you are looking for it definitely adds a layer of strategy and depth to drafting especially if defensive players have true scoring value. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dome Posted August 7, 2019 Author Share Posted August 7, 2019 Getting more work done here.... let me know what you think. https://docs.google.com/document/d/12zUj9e3fM1cVw_wnfjV3eCFlQ9092_nMzfqx5Q74bVk/edit?usp=sharing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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