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4 hours ago, rackcs said:

I'm in

Glad to hear it. 

 

 

I’ll finish up all the fine-tuned rules during this preseason. 

The custom scoring is about done, I’ve been tweaking it every night and going back to look at how the tweaks change last years points leaders.

 I’m struggling to find a way to incorporate DBs fairly because they’re impossible in fantasy due to stats meaning almost nothing to the position as far as grading performances go.

but if nothing else, the top end DL and LBers are matching up point-wise to the top end QBs, WRs and RBs (with the current scoring I’ve worked out, Aaron Donald scored slightly more points than Mahomes this year. Guys  like JJ Watt, Kuechly, Bobby Wagner, Fletcher Cox and Danielle Hunter are all scoring similarly to guys Brees, Kamara, Thomas ETC on that side of the ball) so if nothing else defensive players will actually mean something in this league. 

Before the tweaks you had Aaron Donald worth like half the points Mahomes was, and that ain’t cool 

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10 hours ago, Dome said:

I think I’m gonna bump all-pro selections to a 4 year ban and pro-bowl to a 2 year ban.

Hoping to have 125-150 players ineligible each season.  A handful more would be added with this adjustment.

I did this... added 4 years for an All-Pro Naming and 2 Year for a pro bowl.

the list is much more..... comprehensive. I like this better, it added some big names the original scan missed.

QB RB WR TE K/P
Aaron Rodgers Adrian Peterson Adam Thielen Austin Hooper Aldrick Rosas
Alex Smith Alvin Kamara AJ Green Delanie Walker Brett Kern
Andrew Luck Anthony Sherman Allen Robinson Eric Ebron Chris Boswell
Ben Roethlisberger Christian McCaffrey Amari Cooper George Kittle Dan Bailey
Cam Newton Cordarrelle Patterson Andre Roberts Greg Olsen Graham Gano
Carson Wentz David Johnson Antonio Brown Jack Doyle Greg Zuerlein
Dak Prescott Devonta Freeman Davante Adams Jared Cook Jason Myers
Derek Carr Doug Martin Deandre Hopkins Jimmy Graham Johnny Hecker
Deshaun Watson Eddie Lacy Doug Baldwin Kyle Rudolph Justin Tucker
Drew Brees Ezekiel Elliot Jarvis Landry Rob Gronkowski Marquette King
Jared Goff James Conner JuJu Smith-Schuster Travis Kelce Michael Dickson
Matt Ryan James Devlin Julio Jones Zach Ertz Sam Koch
Mitch Trubisky Kareem Hunt Keenan Allen   Stephen Gostkowski
Pat Mahomes Kyle Juszczyk Larry Fitzgerald    
Philip Rivers Lamar Miller Matthew Slater    
Russell Wilson LeSean McCoy Michael Thomas    
Tom Brady Leveon Bell Mike Evans    
  Mark Ingram Odell Beckham Jr.    
  Melvin Gordon Pharoah Cooper    
  Mike Tolbert TY Hilton    
  Patrick DiMarco Tyler Lockett    
  Phillip Lindsay Tyreek Hill    
  Roosevelt Nix      
  Saquon Barkley      
  Tarik Cohen      
  Todd Gurley      

 

Edge Interior D-Line LB CB S
Brandon Graham Aaron Donald Alec Ogletree A.J. Bouye Adrian Phillips
Calais Campbell Akiem Hicks Anthony Barr Aqib Talib Brynden Trawick
Cameron Heyward Brandon Williams Benardrick McKinney Byron Jones Budda Baker
Cameron Jordan Cameron Heyward Bobby Wagner Casey Hayward Devin McCourtey
Cameron Wake Chris Jones C.J. Mosley Chris Harris Jr Dewin James
Danielle Hunter Damon Harrison Chandler Jones Darius Slay Earl Thomas
Dee Ford DeForest Buckner CJ Mosley Denzel Ward Eddie Jackson
Demarcus Lawrence Fletcher Cox Cory Littleton Desmond King Eric Berry
Everson Griffen Geno Atkins Darius Leonard Jalen Ramsey Eric Weddle
Ezekiel Ansah Gerald McCoy Deion Jones Jamal Agnew Ha Ha Clinton-Dix
Jadeveon Clowney Jurrell Casey Derrick Johnson Janoris Jenkins Harrison Smith
JJ Watt Kawann Short Dont'a Hightower Josh Norman Jamal Adams
Joey Bosa Kyle Williams Jadeveon Clowney Kyle Fuller Keanu Neal
Khalil Mack Linval Joseph Jamie Collins Malcolm Butler Kevin Byard
Melvin Ingram Malik Jackson Joe Schobert Marcus Peters Landon Collins
Michael Bennett Mike Daniels Kwon Alexander Marshon Lattimore Malcolm Jenkins
Myles Garrett Muhammad Wilkerson Lavonte David Patrick Peterson Micah Hyde
Olivier Vernon Ndamukong Suh Leighton Vander Esch Richard Sherman Nate Ebner
Ryan Kerrigan Sheldon Richardson Lorenzo Alexander Stephon Gilmore Reshad Jones
T.J. Watt   Luke Kuechly Xavien Howard Tyrann Mathieu
Vic Beasley   Navarro Bowman Xavier Rhodes  
Yannick Ngakoue   Sean Lee    
    Telvin Smith    
    Terrell Suggs    
    Thomas Davis    
    Von Miller    
    Whitney Mercilus    
    Zach Brown    

 

 

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3 minutes ago, rackcs said:

Yikes, RB could be a bit dicey.

I'll remove the FBs. Maybe it'll be less intimidating. 

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Wondering if maybe statistical cutoffs would be better.

.... which is why this is all getting sorted out a year ahead of time lol

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Messing with the ineligibility criteria...  getting to the stage where I'd like other peoples input, cause I can go many ways with this. Once I have this stuff finalized I can really start pumping this GM league as more than an idea. I think that will help people get more interested.

Also if any of you are either still wavering on the idea or firm commits, knowing that would help me out. 

@Bigbear72

@sammymvpknight

@theuntouchable

@rackcs

@Oregon Ducks

 

I think I like performance based ineligibility better than award based, more uniform and not subjective.

 

I'm just not sure how to carry it over for injury/suspension years. (IE if Saquon Barkley gets hurt and doesn't hit the marks for ineligibility this year, he shouldn't be made available next season because of that... everyone knows how good he is)

 

 

The whole point of this league is to look deeper than known commodities in the NFL, so with the following criteria (if a player meets any of the criteria they're ineligible):

QB - Top 10 Attempts, Yards, Pass TD, Rating (Minimum 224 passing attempts per PFR)
RB - Top 15 Attempts, Scrim Yards, Rush TD
WR - Top 20 Catches, Rec Yards, Rec TD
TE - Top 10 Catches, Rec Yards, Rec TD

The following players would be eliminated. It's a rather big list, but that was kind of what I was envisioning anyways. 

 

Aaron Rodgers Aaron Jones Adam Humphries Austin Hooper
Andrew Luck Adrian Peterson Adam Thielen Cameron Brate
Baker Mayfield Alex Collins Alshon Jeffery David Njoku
Ben Roethlisberger Alvin Kamara Amari Cooper Eric Ebron
Cam Newton Chris Carson Anthony Miller George Kittle
Carson Wentz Christian McCaffrey Antonio Brown Jared Cook
Case Keenum David Johnson Brandin Cooks Jimmy Graham
Dak Prescott Derrick Henry Calvin Ridley Kyle Rudolph
Derek Carr Ezekiel Elliott Chris Godwin O.J. Howard
Deshaun Watson Isaiah Crowell Davante Adams Rob Gronkowski
Drew Brees James Conner DeAndre Hopkins Travis Kelce
Eli Manning Joe Mixon Emmanuel Sanders Trey Burton
Jared Goff Jordan Howard Jarvis Landry Zach Ertz
Kirk Cousins Kareem Hunt John Ross  
Matt Ryan Lamar Miller JuJu Smith-Schuster  
Matthew Stafford Latavius Murray Julian Edelman  
Mitchell Trubisky Mark Ingram Julio Jones  
Patrick Mahomes Marlon Mack Keenan Allen  
Philip Rivers Melvin Gordon Michael Thomas  
Russell Wilson Nick Chubb Mike Evans  
Ryan Fitzpatrick Peyton Barber Mike Williams  
Tom Brady Phillip Lindsay Odell Beckham  
  Saquon Barkley Robert Woods  
  Sony Michel Stefon Diggs  
  Todd Gurley Sterling Shepard  
    T.Y. Hilton  
    Tyler Boyd  
    Tyreek Hill  
    Zay Jones  

 

 

 

Another thing.... in the spirit of making this more of a GM/Scouting league that uses fantasy scoring as opposed to an outright fantasy league, and in the spirit of all the fringe level players in this league what do you all feel about a "Practice Squad" scoring system where all Offensive/Defensive positions are superflex (qb/rb/wr/te) and you just get the best X performers on offense and defense rather than based on position? It'll make the lack of starting players (mainly QBs) in this league less of an issue. If all the good QBs are gone, you can just have another RB/WR/TE instead, like a practice squad.

 

Thoughts, questions, comments, concerns?

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I don't really have a preference between awards or stats. I think either way is fair and objective.

I like the idea of the practice squad flex thing.

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12 hours ago, Dome said:

Messing with the ineligibility criteria...  getting to the stage where I'd like other peoples input, cause I can go many ways with this. Once I have this stuff finalized I can really start pumping this GM league as more than an idea. I think that will help people get more interested.

Also if any of you are either still wavering on the idea or firm commits, knowing that would help me out. 

@Bigbear72

@sammymvpknight

@theuntouchable

@rackcs

@Oregon Ducks

 

I think I like performance based ineligibility better than award based, more uniform and not subjective.

 

I'm just not sure how to carry it over for injury/suspension years. (IE if Saquon Barkley gets hurt and doesn't hit the marks for ineligibility this year, he shouldn't be made available next season because of that... everyone knows how good he is)

 

 

The whole point of this league is to look deeper than known commodities in the NFL, so with the following criteria (if a player meets any of the criteria they're ineligible):

QB - Top 10 Attempts, Yards, Pass TD, Rating (Minimum 224 passing attempts per PFR)
RB - Top 15 Attempts, Scrim Yards, Rush TD
WR - Top 20 Catches, Rec Yards, Rec TD
TE - Top 10 Catches, Rec Yards, Rec TD

The following players would be eliminated. It's a rather big list, but that was kind of what I was envisioning anyways. 

 

Aaron Rodgers Aaron Jones Adam Humphries Austin Hooper
Andrew Luck Adrian Peterson Adam Thielen Cameron Brate
Baker Mayfield Alex Collins Alshon Jeffery David Njoku
Ben Roethlisberger Alvin Kamara Amari Cooper Eric Ebron
Cam Newton Chris Carson Anthony Miller George Kittle
Carson Wentz Christian McCaffrey Antonio Brown Jared Cook
Case Keenum David Johnson Brandin Cooks Jimmy Graham
Dak Prescott Derrick Henry Calvin Ridley Kyle Rudolph
Derek Carr Ezekiel Elliott Chris Godwin O.J. Howard
Deshaun Watson Isaiah Crowell Davante Adams Rob Gronkowski
Drew Brees James Conner DeAndre Hopkins Travis Kelce
Eli Manning Joe Mixon Emmanuel Sanders Trey Burton
Jared Goff Jordan Howard Jarvis Landry Zach Ertz
Kirk Cousins Kareem Hunt John Ross  
Matt Ryan Lamar Miller JuJu Smith-Schuster  
Matthew Stafford Latavius Murray Julian Edelman  
Mitchell Trubisky Mark Ingram Julio Jones  
Patrick Mahomes Marlon Mack Keenan Allen  
Philip Rivers Melvin Gordon Michael Thomas  
Russell Wilson Nick Chubb Mike Evans  
Ryan Fitzpatrick Peyton Barber Mike Williams  
Tom Brady Phillip Lindsay Odell Beckham  
  Saquon Barkley Robert Woods  
  Sony Michel Stefon Diggs  
  Todd Gurley Sterling Shepard  
    T.Y. Hilton  
    Tyler Boyd  
    Tyreek Hill  
    Zay Jones  

 

 

 

Another thing.... in the spirit of making this more of a GM/Scouting league that uses fantasy scoring as opposed to an outright fantasy league, and in the spirit of all the fringe level players in this league what do you all feel about a "Practice Squad" scoring system where all Offensive/Defensive positions are superflex (qb/rb/wr/te) and you just get the best X performers on offense and defense rather than based on position? It'll make the lack of starting players (mainly QBs) in this league less of an issue. If all the good QBs are gone, you can just have another RB/WR/TE instead, like a practice squad.

 

Thoughts, questions, comments, concerns?

I'm ok with stats.  I think you may need to tweak it a little.   Going off of the above you have eliminated 20+ QBs.  That doesn't leave a lot o meat on the bone.

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11 hours ago, Bigbear72 said:

I'm ok with stats.  I think you may need to tweak it a little.   Going off of the above you have eliminated 20+ QBs.  That doesn't leave a lot o meat on the bone.

That's kind of the intention. 

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Looking at some player scores @Bigbear72 the lack of QBs will only be an issue if we go with a standard lineup.

 

if people like the “practice squad” lineup then people lacking in QBs can load up at other positions instead, if not I’ll tone down everything just a little. Depends how “developmental” people want to go with this league 

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3 hours ago, Dome said:

Looking at some player scores @Bigbear72 the lack of QBs will only be an issue if we go with a standard lineup.

 

if people like the “practice squad” lineup then people lacking in QBs can load up at other positions instead, if not I’ll tone down everything just a little. Depends how “developmental” people want to go with this league 

Fair enough. 

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On 8/2/2019 at 4:23 PM, Dome said:

Glad to hear it. 

 

 

I’ll finish up all the fine-tuned rules during this preseason. 

The custom scoring is about done, I’ve been tweaking it every night and going back to look at how the tweaks change last years points leaders.

 I’m struggling to find a way to incorporate DBs fairly because they’re impossible in fantasy due to stats meaning almost nothing to the position as far as grading performances go.

but if nothing else, the top end DL and LBers are matching up point-wise to the top end QBs, WRs and RBs (with the current scoring I’ve worked out, Aaron Donald scored slightly more points than Mahomes this year. Guys  like JJ Watt, Kuechly, Bobby Wagner, Fletcher Cox and Danielle Hunter are all scoring similarly to guys Brees, Kamara, Thomas ETC on that side of the ball) so if nothing else defensive players will actually mean something in this league. 

Before the tweaks you had Aaron Donald worth like half the points Mahomes was, and that ain’t cool 

Hmm...never been in a league like this but it could go awesome...or not. IDP scares me tbh lol

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2 hours ago, Oregon Ducks said:

Hmm...never been in a league like this but it could go awesome...or not. IDP scares me tbh lol

If we get this going and people don’t like it we can always switch to an offense only league. 

I just don’t like the idea of defensive squads in a league meant for individual scouting/team building 

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18 hours ago, Dome said:

If we get this going and people don’t like it we can always switch to an offense only league. 

I just don’t like the idea of defensive squads in a league meant for individual scouting/team building 

My main league is IDP and once you understand what you are looking for it definitely adds a layer of strategy and depth to drafting especially if defensive players have true scoring value.

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