757-NINER Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, NinerNation21 said: Ok, just for funsies, I'm doing a mock on The Draft Network. Here's the scenario: Top prospects on the board at 13: Jeudy C.J. Henderson Andrew Thomas Kinlaw Herbert Love Options running through my head: #1: Take Jeudy and never look back #2: Take Henderson to sure up pass coverage on the backend #3: Take Thomas, kick him inside this year, while grooming him to take over for Staley in the next year or two #4: The Patriots want to trade up for one of the QBs. They're offering a 1st, 3rd, 4th, and 2021 1st Which do you choose? Depends how badly they covet picks. Like I said earlier, how may draft picks have a realistic chance of cracking this roster? That first next year would VERY tempting, along with another first this year. Ultimately though, I say they probably make the trade. Henderson would be tempting. But you could make that trade, draft Bryce Hall in the third round and put him on PUP for a year while he recovers from his shattered ankle if his medical looks good. Kinlaw would be VERY tempting. Immediately helps allivate the loss of Buckner. Just depends on how you they view his potential. Thomas is probably the one that might make them think long and hard about a trade though. He could play inside instantly in this scheme. Alot would depend on how they view Brunskill as a LT. I thought he looked great there. Small sample size but if you roll with him@LT when Staley eventually hangs them up and leave Thomas inside, would that be great value drafting a OG at 13? Edited March 19, 2020 by 757-NINER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinerNation21 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 (edited) If we keep both 1's this year, a combo of Jeudy at 13 and Ross Blacklock at 31 is pretty appealing to me. Also, here are some fun trade scenarios running through my head: Patriots offer 1st, 3rd, 4th, and 2021 1st for 13 Colts offer 2nd, 4th, 2021 5th for 31 if Love or Herbert somehow fall Lions offer 2nd & 3rd for 31 if Love or Herbert somehow fall Edited March 19, 2020 by NinerNation21 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_locniners Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 1 hour ago, NcFinest9erFan said: I think I am split between option 1 and 4. I mean what IF at best the pats are a 7-9/8-8 team. That would net us maybe a top 15 pick next year? I think I am going to take #4 and take the best WR later on. I did a mock on first-pick.com. When I got on the clock, the vikings offered picks 22 and 25. I don't know how realistic that is but thoughts on it? Yeah #4 would be hard to pass up, still having two firsts this year, a 3rd and 4th....then two firsts next year (i see the PATS pick early in round 1), thats hard to pass up. I still would like the trade with the vikings though, three first round picks, just stay put and call it a day until round #5. I mean, we only have so many roster spots, may as well fill them with top late round 1 talent and see who falls late in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
757-NINER Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Or you make that trade and use one of those first....or a first and third to trade for a vet WR ppl around here have been clamoring for. Cap wise that doesn't make sense but who knows how they the brass sees it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted March 19, 2020 Author Share Posted March 19, 2020 16 minutes ago, NinerNation21 said: If we keep both 1's this year, a combo of Jeudy at 13 and Ross Blacklock at 31 is pretty appealing to me. Also, here are some fun trade scenarios running through my head: Patriots offer 1st, 3rd, 4th, and 2021 1st for 13 Colts offer 2nd, 4th, 2021 5th for 31 if Love or Herbert somehow fall Lions offer 2nd & 3rd for 31 if Love or Herbert somehow fall Take the first and the third. I'll pass on the second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_locniners Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 44 minutes ago, NinerNation21 said: If we keep both 1's this year, a combo of Jeudy at 13 and Ross Blacklock at 31 is pretty appealing to me. Also, here are some fun trade scenarios running through my head: Patriots offer 1st, 3rd, 4th, and 2021 1st for 13 Colts offer 2nd, 4th, 2021 5th for 31 if Love or Herbert somehow fall Lions offer 2nd & 3rd for 31 if Love or Herbert somehow fall #1 looks better since Persons release.....addressing WR, CB, OG in the first 3 rounds would be nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherm Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 I'm gonna put this here since WR talk is getting more attention. Posted this on another mb...Sanders played 10 gms for us...53 targets 502 yards/rec and 4 total td...2 100+ rec yard gms. Over that same time Deebo had 59 targets 634 yards/rec and 5 total td...3 100+ rec yard gms. This doesn't even include the playoffs numbers which makes it even more lopsided towards Deebo. No matter who we draft Deebo will be our top WR target next yr. If Sanders doesn't come back it'll be our #2 WR we're losing honestly. I'm a Lamb super fan but I'm also realistic that we don't have to take one of the top WR guys just cuz we have the 13th pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-ALL-DAY Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 7 minutes ago, sherm said: I'm gonna put this here since WR talk is getting more attention. Posted this on another mb...Sanders played 10 gms for us...53 targets 502 yards/rec and 4 total td...2 100+ rec yard gms. Over that same time Deebo had 59 targets 634 yards/rec and 5 total td...3 100+ rec yard gms. This doesn't even include the playoffs numbers which makes it even more lopsided towards Deebo. No matter who we draft Deebo will be our top WR target next yr. If Sanders doesn't come back it'll be our #2 WR we're losing honestly. I'm a Lamb super fan but I'm also realistic that we don't have to take one of the top WR guys just cuz we have the 13th pick. I think it depends on who we draft or trade for. If we draft Jeudy, he can most definitely from day one be our #1 option. But Kittle is pretty much a WR himself and has been the true #1 option the last two years. Wildcard and big if, Taylor is healthy then he is definitely a candidate to be the most targeted receiver on 3rd down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted March 19, 2020 Author Share Posted March 19, 2020 14 minutes ago, sherm said: I'm gonna put this here since WR talk is getting more attention. Posted this on another mb...Sanders played 10 gms for us...53 targets 502 yards/rec and 4 total td...2 100+ rec yard gms. Over that same time Deebo had 59 targets 634 yards/rec and 5 total td...3 100+ rec yard gms. This doesn't even include the playoffs numbers which makes it even more lopsided towards Deebo. No matter who we draft Deebo will be our top WR target next yr. If Sanders doesn't come back it'll be our #2 WR we're losing honestly. I'm a Lamb super fan but I'm also realistic that we don't have to take one of the top WR guys just cuz we have the 13th pick. WR makes a lot of sense because it's definitely a bigger position of need on the team and it starts to coincide with BPA at this spot of the draft, to be honest. Let's also remember that perhaps one of the reasons Deebo blew up in the second half of the season was because he had Manny there to take some of the pressure off him. I don't think that is strictly the case, but I don't think it hurt. He's not getting that protection with Dante Pettis. Also, while I do agree to an extent that Deebo would start out as the #1, I wouldn't be surprised at all if either Jeudy or Lamb usurped that position by seasons end because on a pure, raw talent prospect evaluation, I think both of them are better than Deebo was last year, and I was one of the bigger Deebo supporters on this board. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swift21 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 9 hours ago, N4L said: I agree with this. Doesn't feel like the pick we will make. We are gonna roll with Solly and he will be 2020 version of 2019 Jimmie ward. Former first rounder in a contract year that the fanbase doesn't trust, who is finally going to play one position after being a tweener for so long, and suddenly looks like a good starting caliber player who we all want to re-sign Watch. I'm calling it right here and now. Solly is going to have a nice year. Him and DJ Jones aren't getting run on up the middle. Those two boys are stout We still feel very thin on the DL and I would like to have more guys active on gamedays than we did at the end of last season. We need to draft a DE later imo Mostly because Ward was injured so often. Solly may flash one or twice and he just completely vanishes for long stretches of play after it. I still think his ceiling is just a rotational player. I also don't think he can hold up against the run in base. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John232 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 I sort of get and agree with N4L. Solly did look the best he has in limited time, but that’s the thing. Limited time. Ward always looked like a solid player even when out of position. 2018 was his worst year, but availability was his side. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-ALL-DAY Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 It should be worth noting, before our injury bug hit on the edge rushers and Solly was rushing primarily from the interior, he was flashing every single game. To the point everyone kind of conceded that Armstead was a goner and Solly would replace his production. But then he went back to being the Solly he's been his entire career. If he gets mainly just interior rushes, he has a chance to being very effective on nickel downs. But he has to put it together for an entire season. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John232 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 I think we should go CJ Henderson or one of the big tackles if they drop to 13 and just address receiver at The bottom of the round. Raegor, Mims or Higgins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_locniners Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 4 minutes ago, John232 said: I think we should go CJ Henderson or one of the big tackles if they drop to 13 and just address receiver at The bottom of the round. Raegor, Mims or Higgins. If we pulled CJ Henderson and Mims on day 1,I would be VERY happy.I know we need to upgrade the Interior OL and plan for life without Staley, but having CJ as a #2 CB until Sherman retires with Moseley/ Witherspoon as #3/4, then adding Mims (who I am a big fan of in the late first round), bigger/physical receiver, that would really be exciting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
757-NINER Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, J-ALL-DAY said: It should be worth noting, before our injury bug hit on the edge rushers and Solly was rushing primarily from the interior, he was flashing every single game. To the point everyone kind of conceded that Armstead was a goner and Solly would replace his production. But then he went back to being the Solly he's been his entire career. If he gets mainly just interior rushes, he has a chance to being very effective on nickel downs. But he has to put it together for an entire season. Though I agree he did flash early on in the season, once Ford came back for the playoffs and SB and he was back to being mostly inside, he didn't look the same. He got pushed around alot in the playoffs & SB. I think the potential is there because like you said, we've seen him flash but he still doesn't get off blocks consistently enough for me to trust him. Much like AA before last season, I could see him being effective but being dominant was a long shot. AA proved me wrong. Maybe Solly can too....we shall see. Edited March 19, 2020 by 757-NINER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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