Apparition Posted August 8, 2019 Author Share Posted August 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, BleedTheClock said: Bernie Kosar? but yeah. I totally forgot about this but Brian Sipe won league MVP in 1980 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bad Example Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 On 8/7/2019 at 8:47 PM, Duluther said: Starr to Favre is longer. (Just a little bit... will probably be overtaken.) Yes, but at least GB had Dickey's 83 and Majkowski's 89 seasons to tide us over, even though those players didn't sustain that level of play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bad Example Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 21 hours ago, Starless said: A bit overrated, but still a good player. Also Brian Sipe, as mentioned above, and Frank Ryan went 52-22-2 and won a title after Graham retired. Obviously you don't replace a guy who's in the GOAT conversation but Cleveland has had bouts of fine QB play in the interim....probably not really since Kosar, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeTheBallDeep Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 10 hours ago, iknowcool said: Layne to Stafford maybe? Bobby Layne left the Lions in 1958, Lions drafted Stafford in 2009. That's 51 years. Unless we count Scott Mitchell That is a rough one....poor Detroit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pnies20 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 11 hours ago, BleedTheClock said: Bernie Kosar? but yeah. Sipe too. .... and VINNY TESTAVERDE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malik Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 (edited) On 8/7/2019 at 8:02 PM, NJerseypaint said: The last Jets QB to throw over 4000 yards was Joe Namath. Fitzpatrick (2015), O'Brian (1985), and Vinny (1998) were all close. Edited August 9, 2019 by Malik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malak1 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 On 8/7/2019 at 1:02 PM, MightyMouse07 said: Dolphins with QBs since Marino? The Bears say “what it do?” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelKing728 Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 On 8/7/2019 at 10:01 PM, vikingsrule said: Took awhile for the Vikes to replace Moss. They immediately drafted Troy Williamson with the pick acquired from Oakland. Harvin and Rice never panned out long term, though Rice was brilliant in 2009. Berrian was a free agent bust. Moss returned in 2010 for a few games. Jennings was a free agent bust. Patterson and Treadwell were busts. Finally struck gold with Diggs and Thielen who ironically went in the 5th round and undrafted, respectively. MN has invested heavily at the WR position since Moss was traded. Pretty good WRs before Moss in Cris Carter and Jake Reed too. We've had just as many bad WRs as good ones it seems. Besides Culpepper, we haven't had a long term answer at QB since Fran Tarkenton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman(DH23) Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 Sid Luckman played in the 20s and 30s folks /thread The Bears are the only team in the league to NEVER have a QB with over 29 TD passes. Never a 4000 yd passer. And MT10 could become the first QB in franchise history with back to back seasons of 3000+ yds and 90+ rating. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KewlBeanz Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 Browns, Bernie Kosar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bad Example Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 On 8/10/2019 at 7:19 AM, Superman(DH23) said: Sid Luckman played in the 20s and 30s folks /thread The Bears are the only team in the league to NEVER have a QB with over 29 TD passes. Never a 4000 yd passer. And MT10 could become the first QB in franchise history with back to back seasons of 3000+ yds and 90+ rating. Luckman played in the 40s (39-50). If he'd played in the 20s he'd have no stats. It's tough for me to really buy into that, because McMahon was a good QB, with potential to be very good but he liked beer more than training, and also played with reckless abandon, which was fun to watch but not a prescription for a long career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman(DH23) Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 41 minutes ago, Mr Bad Example said: Luckman played in the 40s (39-50). If he'd played in the 20s he'd have no stats. It's tough for me to really buy into that, because McMahon was a good QB, with potential to be very good but he liked beer more than training, and also played with reckless abandon, which was fun to watch but not a prescription for a long career. McMahon could have been great, then came the bounty from Forrest Gregg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilantZombie Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 (edited) Dare we say Cleveland hasn't had a good QB since God knows when until acquiring Mayfield? Bernie Kozar? Edited August 11, 2019 by wwhickok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeT14 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 Redskins - Safety since ST's death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raves Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 For the Saints the most recent at least has been TE Jimmy Graham to maybe Jared Cook this year. They had one of the most dynamic QB-TE combos in the league, only to trade him away and him fade into oblivion due to injury, while they haven't had even a good receiving option at TE since. Before that you can look at any of the LBers from the Dome Patrol before trading for Jon Vilma. And before that Archie Manning till Drew Brees? Pretty sure there wasn't a good QB in between there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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