Matts4313 Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, eagles suck said: Alex Smith 1st 3 yrs 19TDs 31INTs (Got better with time) Daks 1st 3yrs 67Tds 25Ints ( Still advancing his game) This doesn't add up. Don't compare the 2 The comp that Daks floor is peak/current (before injury) Alex Smith is pretty commonly accepted. Their conservative nature isnt too far from eachother. Edited September 4, 2019 by Matts4313 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resilient part 2 Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 12 hours ago, Matts4313 said: Need to update this with the latest stats. Like all the clutch 4th Quarter stuff. Im too lazy. Someone else do it. Nah Bro, you gotta do it. It's like you got us to the finish line, you gotta be the 1st to cross. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resilient part 2 Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 These QBs are all getting way too much money though. and some won't pan out and will cripple their current teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky151 Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 I'm a Bengals fan and we got the Andy Dalton comparisons for the first 3 years of his career to players like Marino and Manning. Anybody who watched the games knew Dalton wasn't in their class even if his numbers were similar. Prescott isn't an elite QB and wouldn't find much of a market if he was a free agent. If I were the Cowboys, I'd let him play this year for 2 mil, then give him the non-franchise tag and shop himself. If someone else signs him to a big deal, the Cowboys can match or receive 2 first round picks. They could also let teams know they'd take less, say a 1st and 2nd. My guess is no other team bites, and Dak signs his tender. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 (edited) 30 minutes ago, sparky151 said: I'm a Bengals fan and we got the Andy Dalton comparisons for the first 3 years of his career to players like Marino and Manning. Anybody who watched the games knew Dalton wasn't in their class even if his numbers were similar. Prescott isn't an elite QB and wouldn't find much of a market if he was a free agent. If I were the Cowboys, I'd let him play this year for 2 mil, then give him the non-franchise tag and shop himself. If someone else signs him to a big deal, the Cowboys can match or receive 2 first round picks. They could also let teams know they'd take less, say a 1st and 2nd. My guess is no other team bites, and Dak signs his tender. I, obviously, strongly disagree with this. Daks floor is Alex Smith the last few years. Dak at his peak was Tom Brady-lite. Obvi not Tom Brady, dont misconstrue the post. But that type of play style. Edited September 4, 2019 by Matts4313 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBoys Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 (edited) I'm just happy the Giants are sitting their best QB week 1. Oops wrong thread. But I'm happy none the less. Edited September 4, 2019 by DaBoys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky151 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 7 hours ago, Matts4313 said: I, obviously, strongly disagree with this. Daks floor is Alex Smith the last few years. Dak at his peak was Tom Brady-lite. Obvi not Tom Brady, dont misconstrue the post. But that type of play style. So which teams would give Dak 30-35 mil next offseason and send Dallas a first round pick+? There will be several teams perhaps looking for starting QBs. But most will go after a rookie like Tua, Herbert, maybe Fromm. If they hit, a cheap QB is a competitive advantage. My guess is that most of the league sees Dak as the beneficiary of surrounding talent and not a guy who lifts a team by himself. But it only takes one.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, sparky151 said: So which teams would give Dak 30-35 mil next offseason and send Dallas a first round pick+? There will be several teams perhaps looking for starting QBs. But most will go after a rookie like Tua, Herbert, maybe Fromm. If they hit, a cheap QB is a competitive advantage. My guess is that most of the league sees Dak as the beneficiary of surrounding talent and not a guy who lifts a team by himself. But it only takes one.. Dak isnt under contract for next year. So if you are assuming a franchise tag then getting a single 1st... then we have some flexibility in trade terms right? Either way, West coast to East: 1. 9ers could be in the QB market if they admit the Jimmy G experiment has been a bust 2. Broncos 3. Chargers, if Rivers retires. Thats a loaded roster for right now 4. Colts if Brisset sucks 5. Jags/Titans - unlikely, but ya never know when teams arent settled 6. Bucs - if they give up on Jameis 7. Bengals 8. Ravens if Jackson doesnt develop as a passer 9. Dolphins 10. Pats - assuming Brady retires Are all teams that could have interest in Dak 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddy_z34 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 6 hours ago, sparky151 said: So which teams would give Dak 30-35 mil next offseason and send Dallas a first round pick+? There will be several teams perhaps looking for starting QBs. But most will go after a rookie like Tua, Herbert, maybe Fromm. If they hit, a cheap QB is a competitive advantage. My guess is that most of the league sees Dak as the beneficiary of surrounding talent and not a guy who lifts a team by himself. But it only takes one.. Why roll the dice on a rookie when the league already knows Dak can play. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky151 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 18 hours ago, Matts4313 said: Dak isnt under contract for next year. So if you are assuming a franchise tag then getting a single 1st... then we have some flexibility in trade terms right? Either way, West coast to East: 1. 9ers could be in the QB market if they admit the Jimmy G experiment has been a bust 2. Broncos 3. Chargers, if Rivers retires. Thats a loaded roster for right now 4. Colts if Brisset sucks 5. Jags/Titans - unlikely, but ya never know when teams arent settled 6. Bucs - if they give up on Jameis 7. Bengals 8. Ravens if Jackson doesnt develop as a passer 9. Dolphins 10. Pats - assuming Brady retires Are all teams that could have interest in Dak 1 Jimmy G has played well when healthy. I doubt the 49ers are looking to replace him. 2 Broncos took Lock this year as Flacco's replacement. 3 Chargers won't want to pay top dollar for a free agent QB. 4 Colts are a maybe. They have lots of cap room. 5 Jags have Foles. Titans are giving Mariota a last chance so they're a possibility. 6 Buc will probably draft a new QB if Winston flops. 7 Bengals ain't happening. They love Dalton for some reason and drafted Finley as a fallback option. 8 Ravens would be a good fit for Dak but aren't going to throw in the towel on Jackson unless he's worse in year 2 than year 1. 9 Dolphins are tanking for Tua 10 Pats have their future QB in Stidham. Saints might be a possibility if Brees retires and Teddy struggles this year. Again, Dak for 30 mil without his Cowboy surrounding cast isn't a bargain to most teams. IMO the Cowboys should hire a new coach for 2020 and let him choose his QB, whether Dak or someone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextyearfordaboyz Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 The team is coming off 3 straight winning records, a division championship, our cap situation is solid, and our roster is as strong top-to-bottom as it’s been since our Super Bowls, but we’ve got people wanting to fire the coach and trade the QB after the season before we’ve even played one game. Seek help. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBoys Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001051113/article/qb-index-week-1-patrick-mahomes-begins-as-unanimous-no-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 37 minutes ago, DaBoys said: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001051113/article/qb-index-week-1-patrick-mahomes-begins-as-unanimous-no-1 There are a lot of good QBs in the NFL right now. But they need to swap Wentz and Dak. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBoys Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 16 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: There are a lot of good QBs in the NFL right now. But they need to swap Wentz and Dak. Nobody outside this forum or fanbase will agree with you there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBoys Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 I thought Dak was supposed to be paid already? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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