Calvert28 2,434 Posted August 12, 2019 6 minutes ago, Kiltman said: Is she usually a franchise reporter or a players reporter? This just seems like a story you float out there to lose Dak the fan support. Might be a blessing in disguise though She does have access I know that. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaBoys 1,909 Posted August 12, 2019 I think the easy choice is and always has been to let him play out his rookie deal. He isn't holding out, so what's the problem? QBs don't ever really hold out, because it's a bad look for them. $2M this year for Dak and a franchise tag next year means about $16M per year over the next two. I'm all over that. Add up $2M plus the cost of two franchise tags and then divide it by 3. Is that $40m per? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Calvert28 2,434 Posted August 12, 2019 17 minutes ago, WizardHawk said: Meh, the market says he is worth the 35, given the recent contracts. And, despite the narrative that he isn't any good/not that good/whatever there is plenty on the other side of the coin too. Just depends on what and how you want to view it. There are contract out right now that says some DL worth more then a healthy JJ Watt that does not you want to pay premium market value. I would just prefer to draft his replacement. Justin Hebert looks like a nice prospect. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
resilient part 2 1,036 Posted August 12, 2019 This year maybe and earlier implosion than normal between Dak and Zeke. Trying to be optimistic but things like contracts for the quarterback and running back can be a real Poison Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
resilient part 2 1,036 Posted August 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, DaBoys said: I think the easy choice is and always has been to let him play out his rookie deal. He isn't holding out, so what's the problem? QBs don't ever really hold out, because it's a bad look for them. $2M this year for Dak and a franchise tag next year means about $16M per year over the next two. I'm all over that. Add up $2M plus the cost of two franchise tags and then divide it by 3. Is that $40m per? For once we agree on something concerning Dak Prescott. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matts4313 7,312 Posted August 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, DaBoys said: I think the easy choice is and always has been to let him play out his rookie deal. He isn't holding out, so what's the problem? QBs don't ever really hold out, because it's a bad look for them. $2M this year for Dak and a franchise tag next year means about $16M per year over the next two. I'm all over that. Add up $2M plus the cost of two franchise tags and then divide it by 3. Is that $40m per? Not even close. Franchise tag is like $24m. 120% the following year. So it would be 3 years total for ~$60m. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kiltman 2,369 Posted August 12, 2019 7 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: I dont see how this helps anything at all - either for the Cowboys or Dak. Maybe floating $40m will make it look reasonable if he signs for $35m.... but even that is a stretch. If he is asking for it, makes sense for the Cowboys. Fans and sports radio have already rightfully laughed it off. Even if he wants $35, most everyone has laughed at that for Dak too. It'd be a way to check him and what he's actually worth publically. Happens a lot, not sure if it here...but it's what happens. If he wants $33-35 mil it makes sense for him to leak it to get the cowboys off of sticking at $30, Cowboys can pony up a couple mil and be done with it. Though if that as the case he doesn't have the best awareness about his value and how much people were already wary of him at $30. (I'm sure a lot of you were fine with it) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D82 2,652 Posted August 12, 2019 The reality is he likely wants somewhere around $35MM...which will likely look like a bargain this time next year. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaBoys 1,909 Posted August 12, 2019 7 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: Not even close. Franchise tag is like $24m. 120% the following year. So it would be 3 years total for ~$60m. But it's all 100% guaranteed. Which is fine I guess. That $20M for the next 3 years, oh and he'll be 29 years old going into that 4th season. Dak has no leverage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matts4313 7,312 Posted August 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, DaBoys said: But it's all 100% guaranteed. Which is fine I guess. That $20M for the next 3 years, oh and he'll be 29 years old going into that 4th season. Dak has no leverage. Thats still young enough for a LTD. At 29 he could sign and play a ~5 year contract reasonably. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D82 2,652 Posted August 12, 2019 https://twitter.com/dcbluestar/status/1161030765884448769?s=21 This Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CAPJ 423 Posted August 12, 2019 41 minutes ago, D82 said: The reality is he likely wants somewhere around $35MM...which will likely look like a bargain this time next year. Help me understand and I'm not being sarcastic at all. Just because Dak might be a bargain to some at $35 mill next year, doesnt make it easier putting good talent around him when they will want more too. There's a reason why most teams that are paying top money to a QB struggle fielding a solid team. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D82 2,652 Posted August 12, 2019 8 minutes ago, CAPJ said: Help me understand and I'm not being sarcastic at all. Just because Dak might be a bargain to some at $35 mill next year, doesnt make it easier putting good talent around him when they will want more too. There's a reason why most teams that are paying top money to a QB struggle fielding a solid team. It’s because they suck at managing the cap and/or drafting well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matts4313 7,312 Posted August 12, 2019 (edited) 16 minutes ago, CAPJ said: Help me understand and I'm not being sarcastic at all. Just because Dak might be a bargain to some at $35 mill next year, doesnt make it easier putting good talent around him when they will want more too. There's a reason why most teams that are paying top money to a QB struggle fielding a solid team. This is not true. This happened one time in recent history. Last year. Every other year the majority of playoff teams were with second contract QBs. You want your QB to be somewhere in the 13-15% range of cap when they sign their deal. The reason being is that: 1. If its an extension, the number is lower averaged out (5 year @$30m/yr is actually 6 year, $152m for Dak - - or $25m/yr) 2. The cap goes up every year, making the contract a lesser portion of total spending. 3. There is about to be a new CBA, which could dramatically increase the size of the cap. Regarding what D82 said - I dont think it will be a bargain. But it will be manageable. Edited August 12, 2019 by Matts4313 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
