Matts4313 Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 5 hours ago, buddy_z34 said: Dude is not worth that 6 QBs are already making between $33-$35m/yr. Thats what a top 10 QB cost. 4 hours ago, buddy_z34 said: Wait until his offensive line gets older and he doesnt have that much time to wait until his receiver gets open The offensive line that #16 in '17 and #22 in '18 for passblocking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvert28 Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 54 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: 6 QBs are already making between $33-$35m/yr. Thats what a top 10 QB cost. The offensive line that #16 in '17 and #22 in '18 for passblocking? what was it for 2019? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, Calvert28 said: what was it for 2019? 11th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBoys Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 Of all the things used to make Dak look better than he is, claiming that he has been stuck behind a bad OL his whole career has always been the most idiotic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBoys Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 4. DALLAS COWBOYS The Cowboys have been near the top of this conversation for years. This season was another impressive display for the group, finishing fifth in PFF pass-blocking grade and third in run-blocking grade. It's well known what Tyron Smith, Zack Martin and Travis Frederick are capable of when fully healthy, but La’el Collins‘ performance this year was the most promising development from the group. His 85.8 overall grade ranked third among right tackles and was easily the highest overall grade of his career. Collins and Martin on the right side of the line helped lead an offense that finished second behind only the Ravens in expected points added per run play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 13 minutes ago, DaBoys said: Of all the things used to make Dak look better than he is, claiming that he has been stuck behind a bad OL his whole career has always been the most idiotic Our OL is overrated. It was not good for 2 years. those are facts not opinions. 3 minutes ago, DaBoys said: 4. DALLAS COWBOYS The Cowboys have been near the top of this conversation for years. This season was another impressive display for the group, finishing fifth in PFF pass-blocking grade and third in run-blocking grade. It's well known what Tyron Smith, Zack Martin and Travis Frederick are capable of when fully healthy, but La’el Collins‘ performance this year was the most promising development from the group. His 85.8 overall grade ranked third among right tackles and was easily the highest overall grade of his career. Collins and Martin on the right side of the line helped lead an offense that finished second behind only the Ravens in expected points added per run play My bad. I havent see this. Last I saw was ESPN ranking us 11 https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/27584726/nfl-pass-blocking-pass-rushing-rankings-2019-pbwr-prwr-leaderboard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt79511 Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 27 minutes ago, DaBoys said: Of all the things used to make Dak look better than he is, claiming that he has been stuck behind a bad OL his whole career has always been the most idiotic No one says this lol. People like to say he’s had a Top 3 OL his whole career. That is half correct OTOH some of our fans like to say our OL has diminished greatly to prop up him and Zeke, which shows they weren’t paying attention last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBoys Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 26 minutes ago, matt79511 said: No one says this lol. Dude.... read up like 3 posts above yours. It’s not a verbatim quote but certainly been implied multiple times for over a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt79511 Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, DaBoys said: Dude.... read up like 3 posts above yours. It’s not a verbatim quote but certainly been implied multiple times for over a year. 1 hour ago, DaBoys said: Of all the things used to make Dak look better than he is, claiming that he has been stuck behind a bad OL his whole career has always been the most idiotic I have quite literally never heard anyone claim that Dak “has been stuck behind a bad OL his whole career.” Holy strawman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBoys Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 30 minutes ago, matt79511 said: I have quite literally never heard anyone claim that Dak “has been stuck behind a bad OL his whole career.” Holy strawman Do you have @Matts4313 on mute or something? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBoys Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 I’m literally responding to someone claiming that our OL is not good at pass blocking and hasn’t been good in YEARS, and it isn’t anywhere close to the first time he has made this claim. All I said was that I felt the claim was idiotic. You respond by saying no one ever claimed the OL was bad. R E A D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt79511 Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, DaBoys said: Do you have @Matts4313 on mute or something? I’ve gotten into it with him over how far our OL has fallen off since 2016. There’s plenty of dispute over that, depending on what your angle is If he called the 2016 OL bad he’s insane which I don’t believe. That group is pretty universally considered an all-time great unit. You absolutely didn’t have to throw “his whole career” into your comment, it’s petty Edited May 14, 2020 by matt79511 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBoys Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 7 minutes ago, matt79511 said: You absolutely didn’t have to throw “his whole career” into your comment, it’s petty Daks “whole career” is only 4 years long. He has said our ‘17 and ‘18 OL was bad, and he was trying to say they were middle of the pack last year before I posted the PFF ranking of 4th. What’s petty is taking issue with someone saying “whole career” instead of ”3 out of 4 years.” Especially when you don’t even agree that the OL was bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvert28 Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 58 minutes ago, matt79511 said: I have quite literally never heard anyone claim that Dak “has been stuck behind a bad OL his whole career.” Holy strawman Guess you didn't read the posts huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt79511 Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, DaBoys said: Daks “whole career” is only 4 years long. He has said our ‘17 and ‘18 OL was bad, and he was trying to say they were middle of the pack last year before I posted the PFF ranking of 4th. What’s petty is taking issue with someone saying “whole career” instead of ”3 out of 4 years.” Especially when you don’t even agree that the OL was bad. 5 minutes ago, Calvert28 said: Guess you didn't read the posts huh? 1/4 years is 25% of his career. Eli Manning is making the Hall of Fame over 12.5% of his. I agree people have falsely grouped the 2019 OL with the ‘17 and ‘18 units when it was closer to 2016, but that’s not the point Every Dak point has basically been talked to death in that time frame. People have talked about his individual skill set (not enough, though) and his supporting cast (way too much). Now, we’re going after our false perceptions of other people’s claims, which truly accomplishes nothing but showing tribalistic battle lines Edited May 14, 2020 by matt79511 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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