Matts4313 Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 Both my kids will graduate college before Dak is no longer the QB of the Cowboys. 50% of us will no longer be posters. Some will just get bored, some will quit because they cant stand @plan9misfit wit and general dissatisfaction. Jerry (and some of us) will be dead before Dak is gone. This is a fact of life that @TheGame316 and @5x10 need to accept. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGame316 Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 15 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: I know your stance. But this has 0 chance of ever happening. Dak is the Cowboys QB. For a long time. He is 26... And the recent trend of QBs playing past 35 means you should get used to this idea being at least 9 years. Thats fine. I don't have as big a problem with Dak as QB as you think. But that doesn't mean just because he's "The Guy" that he automatically gets 40 million, no if's ands or buts, and that Jerry/Stephen are "Idiots" because they don't have Dak signed yet If Dak is insistent that he is worth 38/39/40 million, then he's going to have to find a team willing to pay him that. I personally don't think that team exists. And when it's all said and done and the best offer he has is 35 million from the Bucs, then he and his agent will have to decide if 32 million and being the Cowboys starting QB is better or worse than 35 and being the Bucs QB, State Taxes, Endorsements, National Coverage, etc all factored in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quiller Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 So far from what I’ve read IMO if either side says 34 ish it’s a done deal. Cowboys 30 offer was too low. I also don’t think Dak responded with 40, 37 maybe. If we offer non exclusive that’s 27 or so and it’s a slap considering what Goff and Wentz got. And Dak will not show up to camp and. Mostly likely take a offer from some one else for 35. Exclusive might save face and allow Dak to play but if we get there that to me means that we didn’t go over 34. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plan9misfit Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 50 minutes ago, quiller said: So far from what I’ve read IMO if either side says 34 ish it’s a done deal. Cowboys 30 offer was too low. I also don’t think Dak responded with 40, 37 maybe. If we offer non exclusive that’s 27 or so and it’s a slap considering what Goff and Wentz got. And Dak will not show up to camp and. Mostly likely take a offer from some one else for 35. Exclusive might save face and allow Dak to play but if we get there that to me means that we didn’t go over 34. Or, slap the Exclusive tag on him and trade him, anyway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweetFancyMoses Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 On 3/1/2020 at 9:50 PM, plan9misfit said: Or, slap the Exclusive tag on him and trade him, anyway. Trade Dak to Detroit for Stafford and their first. Take Tua. Detroit coach and gm are on the hot seat, so they dont want to wait for Tua to be healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/with-dak-prescott-about-to-break-the-bank-heres-why-an-outside-the-box-deal-makes-sense-for-both-sides/ back to the 10 year talks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quiller Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 Would not be totally against that ten year deal. But prefer the three year at say 36 option if not willing to the typical 5-7 year 35 which is what it might take. either way clock is ticking and this will be decided real soon 6 days to sign or franchise tag. And the tag is most probable now and I will think exclusive ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealMcCoy Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 On 3/4/2020 at 9:33 AM, Matts4313 said: https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/with-dak-prescott-about-to-break-the-bank-heres-why-an-outside-the-box-deal-makes-sense-for-both-sides/ back to the 10 year talks Isn't that what Tyron got on his deal? 9 or 10 years? I remember being mad at him, because he could've got more money per year if he didn't take such a long deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealMcCoy Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 BTW I haven't been paying any attention to the Dak contract news. Do you guys think a long term deal will get done this year or will it drag on to 2021? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 1 minute ago, TheRealMcCoy said: Isn't that what Tyron got on his deal? 9 or 10 years? I remember being mad at him, because he could've got more money per year if he didn't take such a long deal. He got an 8 year extension which made his contract 10 years. Just now, TheRealMcCoy said: BTW I haven't been paying any attention to the Dak contract news. Do you guys think a long term deal will get done this year or will it drag on to 2021? I think it will get done this year. The Cowboys have said Dak is the #1 priority this offseason and have started meeting with his agent again. Rumors are weve already bumped the GTD money from ~80-90m to somewhere in the ~105-115m range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealMcCoy Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 12 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: 15 minutes ago, TheRealMcCoy said: Isn't that what Tyron got on his deal? 9 or 10 years? I remember being mad at him, because he could've got more money per year if he didn't take such a long deal. He got an 8 year extension which made his contract 10 years. Ah okay. Yeah... I still think you guys got the better of that deal. 13 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: I think it will get done this year. The Cowboys have said Dak is the #1 priority this offseason and have started meeting with his agent again. Rumors are weve already bumped the GTD money from ~80-90m to somewhere in the ~105-115m range. I mean you have the $ to pay him whatever he wants. Just need to find a meeting place that both sides are comfortable with and finalize. I think it does more bad than good waiting another year and making Dak unhappy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plan9misfit Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Matts4313 said: He got an 8 year extension which made his contract 10 years. I think it will get done this year. The Cowboys have said Dak is the #1 priority this offseason and have started meeting with his agent again. Rumors are weve already bumped the GTD money from ~80-90m to somewhere in the ~105-115m range. This is why the salary cap needs to be structured more efficiently. QB salaries have risen faster than the increase to the cap. So, either the cap should go away entirely, or it should be restructured to where QB salaries are calculated differently against it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 27 minutes ago, plan9misfit said: This is why the salary cap needs to be structured more efficiently. QB salaries have risen faster than the increase to the cap. So, either the cap should go away entirely, or it should be restructured to where QB salaries are calculated differently against it. Nah. Then you get teams that have the Mahomes/Manning/Brady's of the world and get to pay them on a discount. Franchise QBs continue to hover around 15% of the cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plan9misfit Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 17 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: Nah. Then you get teams that have the Mahomes/Manning/Brady's of the world and get to pay them on a discount. Franchise QBs continue to hover around 15% of the cap. And they used to be 12%. Again, their salaries are rising at a faster rate than the cap is. Multiple outlets have stated that on NFL Radio programs. Eventually, it won’t be worth paying a AB top dollar because he’s eating too much of the cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 23 minutes ago, plan9misfit said: And they used to be 12%. Again, their salaries are rising at a faster rate than the cap is. Multiple outlets have stated that on NFL Radio programs. Eventually, it won’t be worth paying a AB top dollar because he’s eating too much of the cap. Going all the way back to Steve young they have hit 15%. Aikman, elway, Marino, Manning, Brady, Brees, big Ben --- all hit 15% or more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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