ManningGM Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 6 hours ago, Buckweath said: If anything the Chiefs are underrated. They are about to field a powerhouse. With what defense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CP3MVP Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 10 hours ago, warrenblue said: Browns. They're not winning the division and I wouldn't be surprised if the finish 4th in the AFC north even behind the Bengals. They're like the 2013 Lakers with Nash, Kobe, Artest, Gasol and Howard. Too much hype, ego and no substance. All those guys were past their prime with the exception of Howard who had major back issues 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 8 hours ago, Buckweath said: If anything the Chiefs are underrated. They are about to field a powerhouse. Lol nah. Everyone expects them to be a powerhouse. But they're not going to match their offensive output from last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malak1 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 Packers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheesehawk Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 Chiefs. Primarily because Buckweath and co are wanting everyone to believe this is the greatest team of all time. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 14 hours ago, Bolts223 said: Rams are in trouble if Goff doesn't improve in his ability to read defenses without McVay whispering into his ear. The Pats pretty much showed the entire league on the biggest stage how you shut their offense down. What was the formula? Audible the defense? Pederson has always just outgunned McVay but Schwartz never really but the kabosh on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-ALL-DAY Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 I'm sorry, I just don't get the mention of the Chiefs here. That offense isn't going to all of a sudden stop being dominant this season. There is really no defense for it and they will continue putting up big numbers. And defensively I don't see them any worse than last season. In fact, the secondary should/could be improved with the additions of Thornhill and Honey Badger. I'm still not a big believer of the Packers and think the Bears have bit of a drop off. Rams will be battling until the end for the division and shouldn't be as big favorites to win it as they are. So I would say those teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrantikRam Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 18 hours ago, Starless said: Kupp missed half the year. This isn't a legitimate excuse. ....and for the half of the year he was healthy we were unstoppable....so it might be a legit excuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrantikRam Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 18 hours ago, Starless said: The Bears did it first, but yeah. Basically my thinking as well. The Bears did it on a freezing night in December in Chicago, the 2nd consecutive East coast trip for the Rams. The Patriots did it on a neutral field after a week off. But neither game will have an impact this year - McVay will adjust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apparition Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 1 minute ago, FrantikRam said: ....and for the half of the year he was healthy we were unstoppable....so it might be a legit excuse. The Rams averaged almost 39 points a game for the first 4 games after Cupp went down. It wasn't until Goff got exposed in the Chicago game that that average dropped to 24 ppg. It wasn't Cupp's absence that slowed their offense down. It was teams figuring out how to force Goff off his primary reads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelersfan43 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 16 minutes ago, Starless said: The Rams averaged almost 39 points a game for the first 4 games after Cupp went down. It wasn't until Goff got exposed in the Chicago game that that average dropped to 24 ppg. It wasn't Cupp's absence that slowed their offense down. It was teams figuring out how to force Goff off his primary reads. Possible and the knee problems of Gurley did not help too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrantikRam Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 14 minutes ago, Starless said: The Rams averaged almost 39 points a game for the first 4 games after Cupp went down. It wasn't until Goff got exposed in the Chicago game that that average dropped to 24 ppg. It wasn't Cupp's absence that slowed their offense down. It was teams figuring out how to force Goff off his primary reads. That's a little misleading. Here are the games Kupp missed completely: Niners (39 points) Packers (29 points) Chiefs (51 points) Lions (30 points) Bears (6 points) Eagles (23 points) Cardinals (31 points) Niners (48 points) Cowboys (30 points) Saints (26 points) Patriots (3 points) So if we average the first four after his season ending injury, it's 37 PPG. If we average from the Eagles to Saints games, it's 31 PPG. What's really great is that if we average from Niners to Bears you get 31 PPG - then from Eagles to Saints, as noted above - 31 PPG. You'd have had to actually watched the Rams last year to realize this - it was the Lions game that started the offense unraveling. Goff was horrific against the Lions/Bears/Eagles - so if you want to talk about who figured out how to stop the Rams, it was the Lions. The point total is misleading. And obviously the Niners and Cardinals were the worst teams in the NFL - so throwing those out for a second. We struggled offensively against the Packers (for a good chunk of the game), Lions, Bears, and Eagles - basically every game except for the Chiefs game, which in itself is an outlier. Our offense still wasn't elite in the playoffs, the defense just stepped up and finally played to its potential. You can obviously think whatever you want to - but Kupp and Gurley being banged up played a huge role in the Rams struggles. Goff should also get better going into his third year under McVay, and the interior OL with Sullivan was a big reason why we lost to the Bears/Eagles/Patriots - he's been replaced as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKnight82 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/27299239/predicting-nfl-teams-likeliest-decline-barnwell-picks-five-2019 "......I can see the argument from Cowboys fans here. Things turned around for Dallas only after the team traded for Amari Cooper. The Cowboys were 3-4 before acquiring their star receiver and 7-2 afterward. What if we only evaluate the Cowboys on their performance after acquiring Cooper? Are they still likely to decline? Actually, yes. The Cowboys were slightly better than their record during the first seven weeks. While they went 3-4, Dallas outscored its opposition by three points over that stretch, which is roughly the level of a .500 team. And likewise, during their final nine-game run, the Cowboys went 7-2 while outscoring opponents by a total of 13 points, which is also about the level of a .500 team. We would have expected the Cowboys to win 4.8 of those nine games by point differential. Instead, they won seven....... .......If a young Cowboys team takes a step backward, the blame will likely be thrust upon Garrett and/or the various contract situations that are currently enveloping the team's core. I wouldn't be so sure. The Cowboys were a league-average team or worse in 2018, when they finished finished 21st in DVOA -- below the Broncos, Giants and Packers. It wouldn't shock me if Jerry Jones' team were actually better on a game-by-game basis in 2019 yet failed to make it to 10 wins." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raves Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 13 hours ago, Uncle Buck said: Maybe the Chargers or the Saints? Both are good teams and should do well, but could one of those old QB's have a "Peytonesque" drop off this season? Another possibility could be the Eagles. Again, a very good team, but they have a lot riding on how Wentz comes back. I think the Chargers would be hurt more by a "Peytonesque" dropoff than the Saints. The Saints have been moving more towards their rushing game than relying on Brees' arm for the past few years and should continue to this year. I mean Brees already barely throws the ball deep, so he just needs to keep his accuracy on his short to mid throws and they are good to go. Though the Saints do have concerns with other aspects for a potential letdown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearerofnews Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 Obviously Chiefs. I say Packers and Eagles also I think those. Dont say my team because i said yours, that wont be cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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