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2 hours ago, Shanedorf said:

From The Athletic

“The rookie  Darnell Savage will be a top-5 safety one day,” the scout said. “He’s already really good. An explosive player who is a violent hitter, yet plays under control. Sometimes he takes bad angles, but with time he’ll figure that out.

Our pass defense drops off noticeably when he isn't out there.

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On 1/15/2020 at 10:02 PM, Outpost31 said:

Savage was a savage, had an ankle injury and got a little less savage, but he’s shown enough potential for me to be extremely excited about him.  
 

Rashan Gary had a very slow start, but he’s shown signs of developing into something special.  Just might take a couple years.

Gary isn't going to get a lot of snaps over the Smith "brothers".   Elgton Jenkins is another rookie doing well.  He took over for Lane Taylor, who is on IR right now and was last year's starter and Jenkins is now entrenched in that spot on the OL for the foreseeable future.

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Well the year is done and here's my rundown on how Seattle Seahawks rookies performed this year: 

Rd. 1 pick 29 LJ Collier DE, TCU. I think the team wanted Sweat and Collier was just plan B. He should have been Plan Z, if his rookie season is any indication. 
Not often a DE picked in first round is a healthy scratch for a team lacking pass-rushing options/just not having a great DL. Collier didn't show much (read: nothing) in his first year, is already old for a rookie (25). It's too early to give up on him, but it doesn't bode well for the future. 

Rd. 2 pick 47 Marquise Blair S, Utah. Didn't play that much during the season but was good on special team and in his limited sample showed he is a big-time hitting safety. Apparently was slow to learn his assignments at the beggining of the year and has to do a better job at reacting at plays faster. Still, should develop into a starting S either next year or the one after (S. Diggs & B. McDougal are the incumbent starters for now and they're both average/a bit above but it would be nice to see Blair supplenting one of the two). 

Rd. 2 pick 64 DK Metcalf WR, Old Miss. Was waaaaay better than what I expected! Showed a lot in his first season a looks like a really good WR2 for the foreseeable future. Just needs to work a bit more on his route tree and clean up some of the drops he had this year. Physical beast who stretches the field and is a really good WR to pair up with RWislon. 

Rd. 3 pick 88 Cody Barton LB, Utah. Didn't play much this year (except on special teams where he was solid) but I liked what I saw from him. Replaced Kendricks (ACL Tear) at the end of the year + playoffs and had a real difficult first game but seemed to improve every game afterwards. Wouldn't mind see him start next year at OLB. 

Rd. 4 pick 120 Gary Jennings WR, West Virginia. Didn't play at all and then was cut from the team during the season (which is a recent trend with Seahawks WRs picked in the 4th round). Claimed off waivers by the Dolphins... Yeah, that was a horrible pick 

Rd. 4 pick 124 Phil Haynes G, Wake Forest. Started the year on the PUP list and ended up playing his only game of the season against the Packers, in the playoffs. He did well for his first NFL action (well it can't be worse than his first NFL snap ever when he didn't block anyone on a FG attempt that resulted in a block because of him). Should be in the mix for starting LG next year. 

Rd. 4 pick 132 Ugo Amadi S/nCB, Oregon. Was a Special Team ace all season and saw some action at nickel CB late in the year. Apart from being toasted by D. Adams in the ultimate 3rd down conversion in the game against the Packers he was very solid. Should be the starting nickel next year, as well as continue to be one of our best ST player. 

Rd. 5 pick 142 Ben Burr-Kirven LB, Washington. Played only ST where he was really good. That should be his role going forward. 

Rd 6 pick 204 Travis Homer RB, Miami. Was a very good ST player all year. Thrust into action after the whole RB corp got decimated and held his own. He's fast, catches the ball really well and pass block adequatly (which is nice from a rookie). Should be a good change of pace/3rd down back. 

Rd. 6 pick 209 Demarcus Christmas DT, FSU. On the PUP list all year. Not sure what to expect going forward (basically nothing). 

Rd. 7 pick 235 John Ursua WR, Hawaii. Didn't play much (1 target I think?) all year and honestly I wonder why. It's not like David Moore, Malik Turner or Jeron Brown were good options. Bit dissapointed he couldn't earn some playing time this year. We'll see for next year, I actually have moderate hopes about him (good #4 WR). 

All in all, not the greatest of a draft. If Amadi, Blair and Haynes can start at their respective positions next year it would be a decent/solid draft. 
Not too wild about having Collier as the first pick but I can convince myself Metcalf was the 1st pick and Collier the 3rd one, which makes everything a bit better. 
Now, if the Seahawks could go back and do something similar to their golden drafts of 2010-11-12, that would be something! 

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5 hours ago, Vladimir L said:

Terry missed two games for the Redskins

Also had no Tannenhill or Wilson throwing him the ball. Teams just stack thr box against the Titans.

Brown had no Tannehill throwing him the ball for seven games.

And he led all rookies in TDs.  And all WRs in yac.  And he had more yards than McLaurin with fewer receptions.

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Ranking the NFL's most productive 2019 rookie classes from 1-32

The ability to get production from players on rookie contracts is one of the biggest competitive edges NFL teams can create. It is easier to do that with a wealth of draft capital near the top of the board, of course, but it's important how much a team can get from its draft picks relative to where they were taken rather than just blindly adding together all the production from the class.

If Player X and Player Y have similar seasons, the production from Player Y, taken in the sixth round, is much more valuable than the production a team gets from first-round-pick Player X.

Pro Football Focus has unveiled its wins above replacement metric in recent weeks (PFF WAR), and we used it to rank all 32 teams on the value of their rookie class over expectation given where each player was selected in the 2019 draft.

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1. Washington Redskins

Why they're ranked here: The Redskins got average quarterback play from Dwayne Haskins after he took over as the starter in Week 9 and an outstanding performance from third-round receiver Terry McLaurin. Play like that from two of the most valuable positions in the NFL will go a long way toward making a top draft class.

How their top pick fared: Haskins (No. 15 overall) got off to a rough start to his career with two shaky performances off the bench, but he rebounded with a 73.4 PFF grade (12th among quarterbacks) after taking over as the starter in Week 9.

Best value pick: McLaurin (No. 76 overall) was a revelation in 2019. His 86.5 receiving grade not only led all rookie wide receivers this season, but it was the highest mark since Odell Beckham Jr.'s in 2014.

ROUND/PICK NAME POS COLLEGE
1/15 Dwayne Haskins QB Ohio State
1/26 Montez Sweat DE Mississippi State
3/76 Terry McLaurin WR Ohio State
4/112 Bryce Love RB Stanford
4/131 Wes Martin G Indiana
5/153 Ross Pierschbacher G Alabama
5/173 Cole Holcomb OLB North Carolina
6/206 Kelvin Harmon WR NC State
7/227 Jimmy Moreland CB James Madison
7/253 Jordan Brailford DE Oklahoma State

https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/story/_/id/28517018/ranking-nfl-most-productive-2019-rookie-classes-1-32

 

 

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18 minutes ago, HTTRDynasty said:

Ranking the NFL's most productive 2019 rookie classes from 1-32

The ability to get production from players on rookie contracts is one of the biggest competitive edges NFL teams can create. It is easier to do that with a wealth of draft capital near the top of the board, of course, but it's important how much a team can get from its draft picks relative to where they were taken rather than just blindly adding together all the production from the class.

If Player X and Player Y have similar seasons, the production from Player Y, taken in the sixth round, is much more valuable than the production a team gets from first-round-pick Player X.

Pro Football Focus has unveiled its wins above replacement metric in recent weeks (PFF WAR), and we used it to rank all 32 teams on the value of their rookie class over expectation given where each player was selected in the 2019 draft.

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wsh.png?w=110&h=110&transparent=true

1. Washington Redskins

Why they're ranked here: The Redskins got average quarterback play from Dwayne Haskins after he took over as the starter in Week 9 and an outstanding performance from third-round receiver Terry McLaurin. Play like that from two of the most valuable positions in the NFL will go a long way toward making a top draft class.

How their top pick fared: Haskins (No. 15 overall) got off to a rough start to his career with two shaky performances off the bench, but he rebounded with a 73.4 PFF grade (12th among quarterbacks) after taking over as the starter in Week 9.

Best value pick: McLaurin (No. 76 overall) was a revelation in 2019. His 86.5 receiving grade not only led all rookie wide receivers this season, but it was the highest mark since Odell Beckham Jr.'s in 2014.

ROUND/PICK NAME POS COLLEGE
1/15 Dwayne Haskins QB Ohio State
1/26 Montez Sweat DE Mississippi State
3/76 Terry McLaurin WR Ohio State
4/112 Bryce Love RB Stanford
4/131 Wes Martin G Indiana
5/153 Ross Pierschbacher G Alabama
5/173 Cole Holcomb OLB North Carolina
6/206 Kelvin Harmon WR NC State
7/227 Jimmy Moreland CB James Madison
7/253 Jordan Brailford DE Oklahoma State

https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/story/_/id/28517018/ranking-nfl-most-productive-2019-rookie-classes-1-32

 

 

I’m really annoyed that you didn’t post the rest of the list 

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