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Better 2019 season:Dak Prescott vs Nick Foles

Dak or Foles  

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  1. 1. Dak or Foles

    • Dak
      20
    • Foles
      16


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It's Dak.  Cowboys fans overrate him but he's still a good QB with good weapons, OL, and defense to help him out.  

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Dak. Foles is an upgrade out in Jacksonville, but... who the heck is he going to be throwing to?

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Dak, even if Elliott misses time. 

I think Michael Gallup is ready for a bigger season. Don’t think he’ll have a 2018-JuJu type season because of their offense, but he’ll be a real good #2.

Foles just doesn’t have the pieces around him for me to confidently put him in this conversation. Also not a full-on believer in him as a franchise QB.

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[troll] I'm going with the guy who has more postseason wins than the Cowboys this century [/troll]

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Foles is a slightly worse QB*, with a much worse supporting cast. Dak will have a much better 2019.

 

*When he's on, he's on, and you get a top 10 QB, maybe top 5, and this is exactly what the Eagles got in the much of the SB run and last year's miracle playoff run. Or in 2013.... but he's not a consistent QB. and can be reduced to backup level if things aren't going right in the gameplan. I mean the guy is quite frankly an enigma at QB, but the larger sample size tells us Foles is nothing special at QB.

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So every single person here picked Dak and yet Foles is winning 8 to 7 in the poll? 

FWIW I voted for Dak, weapons are far better and so is his OL. Even if Foles was better as a QB he doesn't have the cast around him to make me think he'll do better

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The Cooper and Elliot situation has me concerned. If their were no ?'s there, I'd say Dak by a landslide. This is also a contract year for him.

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Posted (edited)
On 8/20/2019 at 1:30 AM, RandyMossIsBoss said:

Foles is a slightly worse QB*, with a much worse supporting cast. Dak will have a much better 2019.

 

*When he's on, he's on, and you get a top 10 QB, maybe top 5, and this is exactly what the Eagles got in the much of the SB run and last year's miracle playoff run. Or in 2013.... but he's not a consistent QB. and can be reduced to backup level if things aren't going right in the gameplan. I mean the guy is quite frankly an enigma at QB, but the larger sample size tells us Foles is nothing special at QB.

Its kinda sad that so-called Eagles fans still spout this anti-Foles consistency garbage.

Since the start of 2013 he is 24-7 in games that matter for the Eagles.

  • His TD to INTs are 63 to 22 over those games
  • People still want to focus on the 2015 Rams and a week 17 exhibition game.
  • What he did to avoid sacks in 2014 to get that team to 6-2 before it fell apart with Sanchez (4-4) was legendary.
    • Just watch the game vs DC.

 

In that time period Andrew Luck has 14 games with a passer rating below 70 in 77 starts. (18.2%)

  • Foles has 5 such games in 31 real starts as an Eagle. (16.1%)

Maybe you consider below 80 rating a bad game instead?

  • Luck has 24 such games in 77 starts since the start of 2013.  (31.2%)
  • Foles has 9 in 31 (29.0%)

Foles has played in 13 high pressure games  (Must win or close to must win that greatly affect his team's chances)

  • He is 11-2 in those games 
    • last 2 regular season games in 2013  (131.7 and 121.4)
    • first 2 starts in 2017 to get the #1 seed (115.8 and 59.4)
    • last 3 games of 2018 to make the playoffs (89.4, 120.4, 102.1)
    • playoff games (105.0, 100.1, 141.4, 106.1, 77.7, 61.4)

He also played a long relief game for the Eagles vs the Giants (114.9) and for KC vs Jacksonville (135.2) and won a start for KC vs Indy (86.3)

  • KC needed Foles for 2 games and they won both. 
  • Those games ensured that KC got the 2 seed, but they were weeks 8 an d9 so I would not count them with the other 13  must win games.

He absolutely was an inconsistent QB for St Louis when he had 11 starts for an awful team that announced it was moving and he faced 8 playoff teams in those 11 starts.

  • 3 starts over 100 rating (Seattle, AZ, SF)
  • 3 starts between 70 and 89
  • 1 start in the 60s 
  • 4 bad games, 2 of which were hideously awful (@GB, @ Cincy)

 

Including every real game Foles has started in his entire career.he has 13 games below 70 rating in 50 starts (or 53 games including the 3 long relief appearances*)

26% or 24.5%

That figure is heavily influenced by the 45.5% rate in St Louis.

He was 1 for 7 on below 70 rating games in 2012 as a rookie on a decimated 4-12 team that got Andy Reid fired. (14.3%)

 

*His first career game was a long relief for Vick vs Dallas in 2012

Edited by SkippyX

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