wackywabbit Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 (edited) 20 minutes ago, AFlaccoSeagulls said: Yeah, let's ride this high until Lamar proves it was an aberration. The thing that most Ravens fans have been saying though is that his intangibles are what he's improved upon - his footwork, his mechanics, his reads, his ball placement/accuracy. Those things ALL showed yesterday, and the result was him lighting up a secondary that's not entirely terrible on paper. This wasn't a bad QB throwing bad passes to wide open guys, or a bad QB throwing screen passes for touchdowns, he was making legit NFL throws down the field consistently. Those results will not happen every week, but the foundation that the results are built upon have been exponentially improved since last year. I think technically those are tangibles , but yes, that's exactly it. The takeaway isn't/shouldn't be that Lamar looks like a top XX QB now, after week 1 against the Dolphins. To be 100% clear, the bar when this thread was made a couple weeks ago was: "Can Lamar Jackson be a functional thrower?". The fact that he was able to make the physical act of delivering the ball to a receiver at the right spot and right time so well, even in a single game should be enough to at least start to challenge that narrative. Sure there will be games where the scheme confuses him into picks or the pressure makes him lose his mechanics and have awful days, but this is at least a baseline for what he is capable of when things go right. Bill Barnwell/ESPN did a deeper analysis than any of us are capable of that challenges the notion that he was just completing easy throws to open receivers. Even throwing deep down to Brown with a step is NOT a high percentage accuracy throw to hit in stride. He was incredibly sharp Sunday. Maybe he is never that sharp again in a game, but the fact that he's capable of that type of game and that he put in the work to improve so dramatically in his mechanics is a good sign for this future. http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/27572572/barnwell-week-1-five-most-surprising-qb-performances Edited September 9, 2019 by wackywabbit 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 Just now, wwhickok said: First of all, there is one major thing people are overlooking What was Harbaugh's comments about Jackson? That he was going to break the record for rushes by a QB ina single season that was set by RGIII. He flat out said it wasnt his intent to allow LJ to pass often. Ever think maybe Harbaugh said that purposefully to give other DC's bad info? Harbaugh does this stuff all the time. I think the fact that Lamar just ran 3 times for 6 yards while throwing 20+ times and posting a perfect passer rating says more than Harbaugh's comments in July, but I mean idk. Just now, wwhickok said: So what were people wrong about? Many of us said that "RG3" gameplan wasn't going to work and he wouldnt last the season. That he can't throw a football? That he can't read a defense? Take your pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.10.E Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 (edited) 24 minutes ago, wwhickok said: Furthermore, playing a team like Miami, who is NOT coaching to win, is a poor measuring stick LMAO we've come to this. Edited September 9, 2019 by M.10.E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmittyBacall Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 This reminds me of when Trubisky threw for 6 TDs against Tampa Bay last year. Let's wait and see how this plays out, shall we? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 29 minutes ago, SmittyBacall said: This reminds me of when Trubisky threw for 6 TDs against Tampa Bay last year. Let's wait and see how this plays out, shall we? Lamar struggles one week in his rookie year against a really good defense in the playoffs: "Yeah he's figured out. GG he's done" Lamar comes back the next year with improved everything: "Now hold on maybe let's just wait and see..." 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wackywabbit Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 31 minutes ago, SmittyBacall said: This reminds me of when Trubisky threw for 6 TDs against Tampa Bay last year. Let's wait and see how this plays out, shall we? Wait... we are comparing Jackson and Trubisky now? What an amazing one week jump, for my boy Lamar! Last week it was Lamar vs Rosen. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danand Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 Ravens fans and those who support Lamar outside the team can just forget about it. Those who wants to will twist and turn to prove their point about Lamar. Once he has a bad game, they will be there, and then all the good games will not mean a thing. It is the antivaxx logic (both are not based on facts), and just like antivaxxers, it will be pointless to try and argue against those in here and in the twitterverse that Lamar could be anything they don't agree with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebestever6 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, AFlaccoSeagulls said: Lamar struggles one week in his rookie year against a really good defense in the playoffs: "Yeah he's figured out. GG he's done" Lamar comes back the next year with improved everything: "Now hold on maybe let's just wait and see..." In General fans and media overreact Edited September 9, 2019 by thebestever6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 15 minutes ago, AFlaccoSeagulls said: Lamar struggles one week in his rookie year against a really good defense in the playoffs: "Yeah he's figured out. GG he's done" Lamar comes back the next year with improved everything: "Now hold on maybe let's just wait and see..." It’s no different than you guys excusing the Chargers game and getting hyped about him torching maybe the worst team in nfl history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 11 minutes ago, wackywabbit said: Wait... we are comparing Jackson and Trubisky now? What an amazing one week jump, for my boy Lamar! Last week it was Lamar vs Rosen. googles NFL QB's who had two consecutive good games but struggled afterwards Next week: "Ahhh yes, this reminds me of <that QB>" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 Just now, candyman93 said: It’s no different than you guys excusing the Chargers game and getting hyped about him torching maybe the worst team in nfl history. Because a player can't improve over the course of 9 months, right? He's still the same player he was last December, apparently. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danand Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, candyman93 said: It’s no different than you guys excusing the Chargers game and getting hyped about him torching maybe the worst team in nfl history. Now there is a sample size of 9 games, Lamar looked bad in 1 of those. When/if Lamar has looked good in 26 games and bad in 5, people like you will focus on the 5. Thats how it is. Baker should only be judged on yesterdays game based on your logic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmittyBacall Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 23 minutes ago, AFlaccoSeagulls said: Lamar comes back the next year with improved everything: "Now hold on maybe let's just wait and see..." Are you saying we shouldn't wait and see and just crown him now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamondbull424 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 2 hours ago, Tetsujin said: Miami has a decent secondary. They really just couldn't handle the speed of Hollywood Brown. They also lack a pass rush. Yeah, I mean, Minkah Fitzpatrick isn’t even “starting” on the official depth chart. That has to say something at least about the talent back there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danand Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, SmittyBacall said: Are you saying we shouldn't wait and see and just crown him now? Nobody wants to crown him. The whole argument is based on a huge number of people who act like he can't complete a pass. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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