resilient part 2 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 So where does Jim Harbaugh end up going. Back to the NFL? Would you take him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D82 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 25 minutes ago, resilient part 2 said: So where does Jim Harbaugh end up going. Back to the NFL? Would you take him? In what capacity would he fit in here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resilient part 2 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, D82 said: In what capacity would he fit in here? Clarification. I meant if you were a/any NFL team in general. So lets try again. Can/will he make for a good NFL HC. or is it better off trying someone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D82 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, resilient part 2 said: Clarification. I meant if you were a/any NFL team in general. So lets try again. Can/will he make for a good NFL HC. or is it better off trying someone else. Ah, alright then. Well...he turned around the 49ers, took them to a Super Bowl. I'd have to think there's some team out there who would give him a hard look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resilient part 2 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 (edited) I don't follow Michigan, so why did JH Fail with Michigan? @plan9misfit ??? thoughts on this. Anyone? Edited September 22, 2019 by resilient part 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WizardHawk Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 24 minutes ago, resilient part 2 said: So where does Jim Harbaugh end up going. Back to the NFL? Would you take him? I've soured on Harbaugh over the last few years, so I would pass personally. I believe he would do well in with a team built to win immediately. but his personality is a major hurdle and simply not a good fit for a long term situation 18 minutes ago, resilient part 2 said: I don't follow Michigan, so why did JH Fail with Michigan? @plan9misfit ??? thoughts on this. Anyone? He hasn't found another Andrew Luck to play QB or really strong assistant coaches like David Shaw or Vic Fangio. The other one is the aforementioned personality. By Harbaugh's own admission he can rub people the wrong way. Thirty years ago he probably could have gotten away with this, but it simply doesn't fly very well today. All that aside, UM has averaged 10 wins a season under Harbaugh too. And with that, I can't help but think of the parallels between his situation and the one at Nebraska under Frank Solich and again under Bo Pelini. NU averaged 10 wins a season under Solich and then 9.5 under Pelini and it wasn't good enough for their fan base. Entitlement is a MASSIVE issue among sports fans. especially in places where elite success has been attained. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas_OutLaw7 Posted September 22, 2019 Author Share Posted September 22, 2019 1 hour ago, resilient part 2 said: So where does Jim Harbaugh end up going. Back to the NFL? Would you take him? I can see him going to the Panthers when they fire Ron Rivera or the Seahawks when Pete retires. If he goes to the Seahawks that would be the biggest culture shock in the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resilient part 2 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 1 hour ago, WizardHawk said: I've soured on Harbaugh over the last few years, so I would pass personally. I believe he would do well in with a team built to win immediately. but his personality is a major hurdle and simply not a good fit for a long term situation He hasn't found another Andrew Luck to play QB or really strong assistant coaches like David Shaw or Vic Fangio. The other one is the aforementioned personality. By Harbaugh's own admission he can rub people the wrong way. Thirty years ago he probably could have gotten away with this, but it simply doesn't fly very well today. All that aside, UM has averaged 10 wins a season under Harbaugh too. And with that, I can't help but think of the parallels between his situation and the one at Nebraska under Frank Solich and again under Bo Pelini. NU averaged 10 wins a season under Solich and then 9.5 under Pelini and it wasn't good enough for their fan base. Entitlement is a MASSIVE issue among sports fans. especially in places where elite success has been attained. agree with bold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resilient part 2 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Texas_OutLaw7 said: I can see him going to the Panthers when they fire Ron Rivera or the Seahawks when Pete retires. If he goes to the Seahawks that would be the biggest culture shock in the world. does the JH type of coach, not named Belichick (who doesn't really yell like JH anyway) even have a place in the modern NFL. He, as mentioned by Wiz, might not be a good long term coach as he will eventually wear on players etc.. Though In thought JH's style would be more suited for college than the NFL anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plan9misfit Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 3 hours ago, resilient part 2 said: I don't follow Michigan, so why did JH Fail with Michigan? @plan9misfit ??? thoughts on this. Anyone? I think his inability to find reliable offensive coordinators, a grating personality, and a general inability to find offensive skill position players (QB, RB, WR) contributed to him not beating top 10 teams and continually losing to rivals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D82 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 It's so nice to have a good QB at Texas again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plan9misfit Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Did anyone watch the defensive slugfest known as the Washington State - UCLA game last night? It ended super late, but it was a lot of fun to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas_OutLaw7 Posted September 23, 2019 Author Share Posted September 23, 2019 On 9/21/2019 at 11:19 PM, resilient part 2 said: does the JH type of coach, not named Belichick (who doesn't really yell like JH anyway) even have a place in the modern NFL. He, as mentioned by Wiz, might not be a good long term coach as he will eventually wear on players etc.. Though In thought JH's style would be more suited for college than the NFL anyway. I felt he'd be better for college - but here we are. I can see him for a team that is on the cusp of greatness. Seattle needs new leadership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WizardHawk Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 24 minutes ago, Texas_OutLaw7 said: I felt he'd be better for college - but here we are. I can see him for a team that is on the cusp of greatness. Seattle needs new leadership. Trading Pete Carroll's personality for Harbaugh's seems like a huge mistake for any team, in any sport to make. Besides, Seattle is probably sitting at 3-1 after next week. I'm thinking Jets (Gase is one and done), Houston and Atlanta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas_OutLaw7 Posted September 23, 2019 Author Share Posted September 23, 2019 Just now, WizardHawk said: Trading Pete Carroll's personality for Harbaugh's seems like a huge mistake for any team, in any sport to make. Besides, Seattle is probably sitting at 3-1 after next week. I'm thinking Jets (Gase is one and done), Houston and Atlanta. Houston is a good idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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