49ers Future Podcast Episode 17 - Now Available (12/03/19 - Ravens Game) - Check First Post

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12/03/19 Update: 

Episode XVII: Forge and Y2 cover the excellent game between the Ravens and 49ers. 

https://anchor.fm/y2lamanaki/episodes/49ers-Future-Episode-XVII---The-Ravens49ers-Heavyweight-Fight-e9as9q

 

Episode XVI: 

https://anchor.fm/y2lamanaki/episodes/49ers-Future-Episode-XVI---The-49ers-Shut-Down-the-Packers-e97aol

Episode XV: 

https://anchor.fm/y2lamanaki/episodes/49ers-Future-Episode-XV---49ers-Sweep-the-Season-Series-with-the-Cardinals-e93tgg

Episode XIV:  

https://anchor.fm/y2lamanaki/episodes/49ers-Future-Episode-XIV---Reviewing-a-Close-Loss-to-the-Seahawks-e90117 

Episode XIII: 

https://anchor.fm/y2lamanaki/episodes/49ers-Future-Episode-XIII---Cardinals2019-Midseason-Review2nd-Half-Predictions-e8rrus

Episode XII: 

https://anchor.fm/y2lamanaki/episodes/49ers-Future-Episode-XII---49ers-Demolish-the-Carolina-Panthers-e8cjl6

Episode 11.5:

https://anchor.fm/y2lamanaki/episodes/49ers-Future-Episode-11-5---Discussing-the-Emmanuel-Sanders-Trade-e86kp3

Episode XI: 

https://anchor.fm/y2lamanaki/episodes/49ers-Future-Episode-XI---Breaking-down-the-victory-over-the-Redskins-in-Mudbowl-19-e7vefr

Episode X: 

https://anchor.fm/y2lamanaki/episodes/49ers-Future-Episode-X---Breaking-Down-the-49ers-Win-Over-the-Rams-e7og39

Episode IX: 

https://anchor.fm/y2lamanaki/episodes/49ers-Future-Ep--IX---Breaking-Down-the-Blowout-Victory-Over-the-Browns-e6euq4 

Episode VIII: 

https://anchor.fm/y2lamanaki/episodes/49ers-Future-Ep--VIII---Breaking-down-the-Bengals-Blowout-e5e314

Episode VII:

https://anchor.fm/y2lamanaki/episodes/49ers-Future-Episode-VII---Breaking-down-49ers--Buccaneers-e5atgu

Episode VI: 

https://anchor.fm/y2lamanaki/episodes/49ers-Future-Episode-VI---Breaking-down-the-53-Man-Roster-and-2019-Predictions-e57d54

Episode V:

https://anchor.fm/y2lamanaki/episodes/49ers-Future-Episode-V---Forge-and-Y2-Predict-the-53-Man-Roster-e542b3

 

 

[Forge 9,970]

Should be noted that I somehow circumvent this exercise by creating a roster that I admit won't happen, but refused to change on the basis of a hypothetical trade that may never happen lol

 

[Justone2 271]

Interesting thing with McKinnon is if you want to put him on short term IR he has to be on the original 53. Makes the decision even more interesting.

[Forge 9,970]

6 minutes ago, Justone2 said:

Interesting thing with McKinnon is if you want to put him on short term IR he has to be on the original 53. Makes the decision even more interesting.

You are correct - something that we should have brought up but didn't. Right now, I'm leaning as a complete toss up on which way he goes (short or long term). I don't think that it's a major issue as there are certainly guys that I'd be willing to expose temporarily to put him on the 53 and then IR. Nzeocha and Mayo would be the two that come to mind. I'd expose either of those guys and just take the chance that at least one of them doesn't catch on elsewhere right away. 

[Justone2 271]

13 minutes ago, Forge said:

You are correct - something that we should have brought up but didn't. Right now, I'm leaning as a complete toss up on which way he goes (short or long term). I don't think that it's a major issue as there are certainly guys that I'd be willing to expose temporarily to put him on the 53 and then IR. Nzeocha and Mayo would be the two that come to mind. I'd expose either of those guys and just take the chance that at least one of them doesn't catch on elsewhere right away. 

Yeah i agree just makes the decision not as easy as it would be if you could just straight up put him on short term IR. Will be an interesting cut down day with all the difficult decision we have to make.

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9 minutes ago, Forge said:

You are correct - something that we should have brought up but didn't. Right now, I'm leaning as a complete toss up on which way he goes (short or long term). I don't think that it's a major issue as there are certainly guys that I'd be willing to expose temporarily to put him on the 53 and then IR. Nzeocha and Mayo would be the two that come to mind. I'd expose either of those guys and just take the chance that at least one of them doesn't catch on elsewhere right away. 

Mayo is the better choice for this to me. Mayo, Matthews, Toilolo, and Exum. If any of these players are wanted to make the team, they make for simple cuts while holding onto guys who are going to go on short-term IR. Each have accrued at least 4 seasons, which means if they are cut, they are instantly free agents and not available to the waiver wire. 

Meaning, you sit them down, congratulate them for making the roster, explain that they are going to be technically cut until we can put McKinnon on IR, and then they will be signed back to the team. 

This way, it's not a player another team can just claim. You still run the risk of the player bolting for another opportunity since any team could contact them and sign them immediately, which is why you use the above mostly unattractive players rather than someone like Jason Verrett, who might entice another team to reach out with offers we won't want to match.

[Forge 9,970]

3 minutes ago, y2lamanaki said:

Mayo is the better choice for this to me. Mayo, Matthews, Toilolo, and Exum. If any of these players are wanted to make the team, they make for simple cuts while holding onto guys who are going to go on short-term IR. Each have accrued at least 4 seasons, which means if they are cut, they are instantly free agents and not available to the waiver wire. 

Meaning, you sit them down, congratulate them for making the roster, explain that they are going to be technically cut until we can put McKinnon on IR, and then they will be signed back to the team. 

This way, it's not a player another team can just claim. You still run the risk of the player bolting for another opportunity since any team could contact them and sign them immediately, which is why you use the above mostly unattractive players rather than someone like Jason Verrett, who might entice another team to reach out with offers we won't want to match.

I'm curious how that works for the contracts. Because if they are cut, their existing contract is terminated, and then you have to actually re-sign them. Which means that any guarantees escalate, and if they had a guaranteed base, we have to pay that out anyway. So do we then have to pay out both base salaries (The guaranteed on the first contract, along with whatever the base is on the second?)? I've never actually considered any of that. 

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11 minutes ago, Forge said:

I'm curious how that works for the contracts. Because if they are cut, their existing contract is terminated, and then you have to actually re-sign them. Which means that any guarantees escalate, and if they had a guaranteed base, we have to pay that out anyway. So do we then have to pay out both base salaries (The guaranteed on the first contract, along with whatever the base is on the second?)? I've never actually considered any of that. 

Not entirely sure, though if I remember correctly we previously did this with Kassim Osgood a few years back and purposely waited to sign him back until Week 2 so we could avoid the guarantee. 

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Episode VI is now Available! This week we talk about the 53-man roster, give some 2019 predictions, and take our first look ahead to 2020. 

https://anchor.fm/y2lamanaki/episodes/49ers-Future-Episode-VI---Breaking-down-the-53-Man-Roster-and-2019-Predictions-e57d54

 

Lots of Baby Forge appearances and a shout out to @Chrissooner49er. 

 

Enjoy!

[Forge 9,970]

You guys also get a Forge who is clearly 27% discombobulated

[Forge 9,970]

Baby Forge is just as long winded as his dad. 

[Chrissooner49er 613]

On 9/3/2019 at 6:57 PM, y2lamanaki said:

Episode VI is now Available! This week we talk about the 53-man roster, give some 2019 predictions, and take our first look ahead to 2020. 

https://anchor.fm/y2lamanaki/episodes/49ers-Future-Episode-VI---Breaking-down-the-53-Man-Roster-and-2019-Predictions-e57d54

 

Lots of Baby Forge appearances and a shout out to @Chrissooner49er. 

 

Enjoy!

At first, I thought it was going to be for Bosa...you know, because I do have a new jersey...in case you didn't know.  So excited, hope he plays and gets his first sack this week. I too think he will have double digits his first season. His technique is just so refined for a rookie.

CeeDee Lamb is very impressive and I would not mind the 9ers drafting him next year, but have you noticed our younger receivers? Like Charleston Rambo? Wow.

Also, the Sooners have a very good center prospect in Creed Humphrey. 6' 5", 315 and squats 700 pounds. The guy turned heads with his blocking last season as a redshirt freshman.

So, yes, your shout out got me to listen.   Good work, gentlemen. 

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Episode VII is now available! 

https://anchor.fm/y2lamanaki/episodes/49ers-Future-Episode-VII---Breaking-down-49ers--Buccaneers-e5atgu

 

@clarkfn2284, @SoCalNiner, and @J-ALL-DAY have all been name-dropped, so enjoy your 15 hundreths of a second of fame!

[Forge 9,970]

Bosa 15 sacks, Ford 20. Let's gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. 

 

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You have a nice voice y2lamanaki