Forge Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 25 minutes ago, CriminalMind said: I would roster Hardman over Goodwin ... at least for week 1 ... you just don't know the utilization ... and you need WR upside... in the next couple of weeks. I'd disagree there. I think Smith / Stills are the two I'm letting go of on those receivers. Amazingly, Goodwin is still the starter in SF. Volume alone may allow him to be a serviceable wide receiver (when health), and he and Jimmy G had great chemistry in 2017 when playing with one another. There's some deep sleeper potential for Goodwin this year after bombing last year due to injuries. Stills has to learn a new playbook, moves from top of the depth chart to third with the Texans, and Smith is not going to be consistent enough with regards to volume to make him worth a roster spot. I don't mind going with Harman, but Goodwin isn't the one I'd cut. Outside of Anderson, he may have the greatest upside out of his rostered wide receivers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CriminalMind Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 20 minutes ago, Forge said: I'd disagree there. I think Smith / Stills are the two I'm letting go of on those receivers. Amazingly, Goodwin is still the starter in SF. Volume alone may allow him to be a serviceable wide receiver (when health), and he and Jimmy G had great chemistry in 2017 when playing with one another. There's some deep sleeper potential for Goodwin this year after bombing last year due to injuries. Stills has to learn a new playbook, moves from top of the depth chart to third with the Texans, and Smith is not going to be consistent enough with regards to volume to make him worth a roster spot. I don't mind going with Harman, but Goodwin isn't the one I'd cut. Outside of Anderson, he may have the greatest upside out of his rostered wide receivers. SF ... he is at best #3 receiving option behind Kittle and Pettis ... and then there are a bunch of pass catching RBs on the squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 1 minute ago, CriminalMind said: SF ... he is at best #3 receiving option behind Kittle and Pettis ... and then there are a bunch of pass catching RBs on the squad. I would take a chance more readily on Pettis at this point just for upside, though he's going a lot higher in drafts, but after Pettis' very underwhelming off season, it was his role that was in jeopardy, not Goodwin's. He's been called out several times by Shanahan this off season. Goodwin is the starting X receiver for the 49ers (a position that has often been spoonfed in Shanny's scheme), and his path to targets and stats is much clearer than Smith's, and for the time being, Stills (though Stills becomes a decent guy to own when Fuller gets hurt for the year). While Kittle will still be the number one target, I would expect his statistical production to regress (3 70 yard touchdowns for a tight end is a ton in a career as the last person to do that was Marcus Pollard, let alone 3 in the same season like Kittle had last year). A better quarterback should also mean less reliance on Kittle. Goodwin largely isn't draftable, but in this stable of receivers, I'd absolutely keep him over Smith and Stills. It's deep sleeper type stuff, but it's still there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CriminalMind Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, Forge said: I would take a chance more readily on Pettis at this point just for upside, though he's going a lot higher in drafts, but after Pettis' very underwhelming off season, it was his role that was in jeopardy, not Goodwin's. He's been called out several times by Shanahan this off season. Goodwin is the starting X receiver for the 49ers (a position that has often been spoonfed in Shanny's scheme), and his path to targets and stats is much clearer than Smith's, and for the time being, Stills (though Stills becomes a decent guy to own when Fuller gets hurt for the year). While Kittle will still be the number one target, I would expect his statistical production to regress (3 70 yard touchdowns for a tight end is a ton in a career as the last person to do that was Marcus Pollard, let alone 3 in the same season like Kittle had last year). A better quarterback should also mean less reliance on Kittle. Goodwin largely isn't draftable, but in this stable of receivers, I'd absolutely keep him over Smith and Stills. It's deep sleeper type stuff, but it's still there. From Reports ... Shanahan was calling out Pettis to motivate him ... (of course no one knows for sure) ... but Pettis is stlll the WR1 per the SF depth charts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 1 minute ago, CriminalMind said: From Reports ... Shanahan was calling out Pettis to motivate him ... (of course no one knows for sure) ... but Pettis is stlll the WR1 per the SF depth charts. Pettis is the Z. Goodwin is the starting X receiver. They are both starting. Depth charts don't really work that way with regards to the receiver group. It's not like Running back where there is only one of them. He was trying to motivate him because he'd been really underwhelming all TC and pre season. You don't need to motivate someone if you're not. But this is about Goodwin versus the other guys on his roster. I'm willing to change my mind, but what's the reason to? What's the reason for choosing them over Goodwin? Goodwin's road to volume is clear, barring injury. Smith is the third receiver on a team that grows rapidly run heavier by the day (5th lowest pass play percentage in 2018, fewest per game attempts of Brees' career as a Saint), and is a deep ball specialist for a quarterback that doesn't get as aggressive down the field any more (he has been bottom third of the league in ADOT the last three years). Stills just moved to a new team, immediately is no better than third on the receiver depth chart (and possibly 4th as Coutee is the slot receiver), and receivers can take time to find their footing with a new team (Golden Tate). I'd like Stills more than Goodwin from a player talent perspective, but is his situation better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humble_Beast Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 who looks better in full PPR? Anthony Miller or Corey Davis? I have a feeling Miller is going to break out, I like him just as much as DJ Moore. He played great last year but was injured the entire year. Everyone in their second season in the system. Who do you like more? my current WRs Odell, AB, AJ Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fl0nkerton Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 I needed a defense so I dropped Michael Gallup. Should I re-add him and drop Geronimo Allison instead? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NcFinest9erFan Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 18 minutes ago, Fl0nkerton said: I needed a defense so I dropped Michael Gallup. Should I re-add him and drop Geronimo Allison instead? Keep Allison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holt_bruce81 Posted September 5, 2019 Author Share Posted September 5, 2019 So I picked up the Cowboys because of the good matchup, then picked up Seattle because they probably have a better matchup. Don't really want to carry 2 defenses so do I drop the Cowboys saturday night (that way no one can pick them up until after week 1 games) and grab a potential breakout guy...guys that interest me... 1. Darren Waller 2. Miles Boykin 3. Mecole Hardman 4. Damien Harris 5. Chase Edmonds 6. Noah Fant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humble_Beast Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 (edited) my TEs in 3 of my leagues are weak: Hooper, Andrews x2 really thinking of adding Waller because of the AB fiasco. Loaded at RB/WR so would you drop either Hooper or Mark Andrews full PPR for Waller? Oakland system might be TE friendly and obviously alot of targets with AB gone? Don't want to keep 2 TEs my RB/WR are very stacked Edited September 5, 2019 by Humble_Beast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mich_fan20 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Melvin Gordon is no longer allowed on my IR so I have to drop someone (trying to swing a trade but we'll see). Darwin Thompson or Carlos Hyde? Thanks guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CriminalMind Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Mich_fan20 said: Melvin Gordon is no longer allowed on my IR so I have to drop someone (trying to swing a trade but we'll see). Darwin Thompson or Carlos Hyde? Thanks guys. i think you take upside Darwin still. its a move i may make as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mich_fan20 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 19 minutes ago, CriminalMind said: i think you take upside Darwin still. its a move i may make as well I was thinking the same. I feel Hyde may give me a max 10 points or so on a random week whereas Darwin can win my league late in the year if things turn out right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twslhs20 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Tyrell Williams and drop Adam Humphries? I almost want to hold because think Humphries gets 10 catches on like 16 targets. Might be able to flip him week 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 36 minutes ago, twslhs20 said: Tyrell Williams and drop Adam Humphries? I almost want to hold because think Humphries gets 10 catches on like 16 targets. Might be able to flip him week 2 Williams is certainly worth a short term add, but if the worst player you are dropping is adam humphries, I wouldn't worry about it (PPR league). I'm not sure how strong that Williams / Carr connection will be, and at this point, we really don't know what's going on with AB. For all we know, this could be a single game suspension and for some reason they decide not to cut him and he's back in week 2. And this isn't a matchup you're going to play Williams in anyway. If you have a fringe roster player, I'd take him. If not, I think it's okay to let him go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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